Nokia 808 PureView vs Apple iPhone 4S
Symbian has come a long way in its latest Nokia Belle FP1 iteration on the 808 PureView in terms of performance, widget and pull-down notification bar support, yet when it comes to visuals and smoothness, the iPhone 4S has the definite leg up.
With Nokia Bell FP1 you get a vast number of new widgets, so you can pimp your home screens up like on an Android phone, but with this pixel density the interface doesn't look nearly as good as on the iPhone 4S and its attention to detail. iOS doesn't offer widget and full portrait UI orientation support , like what we have on the 808 PureView, but it has so many quality apps written for it, that Nokia Belle just pales in comparison.
The Nokia 808 PureView has a 1.3GHz processor plus a separate one for the imaging tasks, as well as 512MB of RAM and 16GB of internal memory. It runs Nokia Belle fine, with the occasional hiccup attributed more to the mobile OS hangs, rather than the processing power. The iPhone 4S also has half a gig of RAM and starts with 16GB of internal memory, but its dual-core A5 chip and strong PowerVR graphics processor are way ahead of the Nokia 808 PureView's silicon, and make the interface and apps, especially games, a pleasure to use.
Internet and connectivity:
The browser on the Nokia 808 PureView is so cranky, that you'd be hard pressed not to download Opera Mobile immediately and be done with the default one. It shows the checkered boxes each time you zoom in, and is pretty slow in rendering pages. Only when the page is completely loaded you can pan around, scroll and zoom with relative fluidity, which is still far behind what Safari on the iPhone 4S offers.
One big disadvantage of browsing on the 808 PureView is the pixel density again, which makes text unreadable when zoomed out, whereas it is a pretty pleasure to read with the 320ppi of the iPhone 4S display. Both browsers don't support desktop Adobe Flash, just Flash Lite 4.0 in the case of the Nokia 808 PureView, which will still allows you to see ads and view some videos on Flash websites.
Nokia's phone offers pentaband 14.4Mbits HSDPA radio, meaning you can pretty much use it on any GSM/3G network worldwide with up to these download speeds, whereas the iPhone doesn't support T-Mobile's 3G frequencies in the US.
Both handsets have the usual Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, A-GPS and DLNA connectivity options, yet the Nokia 808 PureView is more versatile in that respect as it also has an HDMI-out port for hooking the phone up to a TV directly, whereas you need to buy a dongle for the iPhone 4S. It also has an NFC chip, for exchanging files and mobile payments, as well as an FM transmitter for streaming music to your car stereo, and USB-on-the-go for connecting flash drives to the phone directly.
1. -box- (Posts: 3534; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
A nice balanced and concise comparison. Thank you!
I'd have the 808. No amount of OS gimmickry would take me away from the functionality and capability of the 808. Yes, it lags, and there aren't as many apps for it, but it exceeds my needs, and until the next Symbians arrive (if ever) or PureView makes its way to Windows Phone, this is my most coveted device
34. WWEraw (Posts: 3; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
next symbian OS will be the Belle FP2
maybe carla and donna
2. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
this is okay, but seriously? the iPhone again? why not with the n8?
don't blame them if they go calling you iPhoneArena again.
anyway, i believe that Symbian still packs a punch against iOS 6. lol. and I like the Pureview's design better, though thick.
4. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)
symbian is awesome, except for the apps and the browser
42. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
...The apps are limited, though the Nokia Store has around 70K to date. Outside of Kindle, most every other popular app has a presence in Symbian...or there's a suitable 3rd party proxy.
As for the browser, it is not competitive. However, the free Opera Mobile or Opera Mini browsers are, in fact, fully competitive.
52. tylerdurdon4 (Posts: 1; Member since: 14 Nov 2012)
not to forget UCbrowser, still one of the best browser for symbian and ultra stable.
17. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Phone arenas job is to compare the top devices against each other. If I'm not mistaking based on sales, reviews, performance, and rankings from both the consumers, and experts the 4S is still one of the top 3 phones on the market.
38. Jaris (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)
I own both phones and lately have used mainly the pureview 808 as I use camera a lot and one of the reasons for buying 808 was that I just could not get good enough images in low light conditions and inside with the iphone. Pureview technology in 808 is just amazing. No other phone comes even close (I have had also N8). Symbian is also great as doesn't eat battery like the other OS systems.
The only area where iphone and galaxy perform somewhat better is web browsing, but overall Nokia 808 is pretty good overall package and the camera is just fantastic.
3. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)
Thank you for not making the iphones camera sound better than the pureview camera!
14. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2957; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having a 41megs of Pureveiw tech on 808??? ...if it comes to the conclusion that "iCamera" is better??
32. Raymond_htc (Posts: 430; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)
NO... he meant that he's scared that Phonearena would be biased again!
35. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2957; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
I know.... meant that with sarcasm!! LOL!!
6. PhansMuneeb (Posts: 337; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)
Best Comparision on Phone arena, Thanks Daniel
7. arturmeireles (Posts: 6; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)
I have both phones and its hard to choose one.
I love both phones in different ways.
I take them both with me all the time.
All I can say is that the Nokia 808 exceed my expectations.
8. sbr999 (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)
This single core, 512mb RAM Symbian smartphone is faster than a quad core Android... or just as fast, or uhm, almost iPhone 4s smooth. I'm simply amazed by Symbian's memory management. Too bad developers don't create cool and/or useful apps for it.
9. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 155; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
If you think that PowerVR is much more powerful than the Broadcom 2763 ticking inside the 808, think again. 808's lack on the CPU front is offloaded by its software optimizations and extremely powerful GPU.
10. Extraneus (Posts: 10; Member since: 02 Jun 2012)
Fair article, but...
Your take on the design of the two devices...!!!
Design is a subjective matter...
You love the glass and metal of the iPhone? Fine. I love the exquisite slight curve of the Nokia N9, Lumia 800 and now 808, and find the flat (fragile non-gorilla glass, by the way!) screen of the iPhone unimpressive. The rough plastic you so despise do wonders to the tactile sense and reduces the chance of you actually dropping the device! In terms of comfort, the smooth edges of the 808 certainly beat the crap out of the sharp edges of the iPhone. Physical navigation keys is actually a plus in many peoples' books, perhaps not from a design point of view, but as a practical measure... At the very least, one can argue that it sets the phone apart from all the screen-only clones on the market.
As I said, design is subjective, and I'm not bashing your opinion about the iPhone being leaps ahead on this point; I'm merely pointing out that a statement like:
"You'd have to be a total function-before-form kind of guy to call the Nokia 808 PureView design good compared with the svelte iPhone 4S"
...is ridiculously presumptive!
11. bbblader (Posts: 520; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
I like the symbian belle interface more than the iphone's
on iphone its apps that beat the 808
the 808 I think that has better grip because of the curved edges unlike the iphone's sharp ones
the UI i think is betten on the 808 because the only menu type UI i've liked is the N9's
the iphone one isn't what I want atleast
the browsing is better than symbian's at one point of view but the flash lite on symbian makes me think that the symbian browser is the better one even though the pixel density is less on symbian
here I like the fact that the apps count is worth meaning something
yes even the 60k apps on nokia store are too much when I only used 25 since I have the c6-01
and 30 on the SGS
so I don't care about how many million apps there are
and last but not least most wp7 symbian and android fans will agree with me when I say that the symbian 808 PW is better than iphone 4s
43. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
I wonder if Steve Jobs is writing checks to Phonearena from his grave.
12. Andrewtst (Posts: 238; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Great and fair review.
This is what in my mine as well.
Nokia 808PV is only great in Camera. That it.
Old and ugly design, outdated OS, bad OS.
Crap screen resolution.
16. -RVM- (Posts: 329; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
And also in customizability of OS, landscape UI support, connectivity options, openness, multimedia, free offline navigation etc.
20. bbblader (Posts: 520; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
lol if symbian is an outdated os idk what ios 6 is
having just now got the ''new'' remind me later button
even if symbian doesn't support flash
it still supports flash lite 4.0
your god iphone doesnt even support that
+ that iSight camera you have needs glasses compared to the 808
and one more thing tell me how can I download a song on an iphone when its not jailbroken? pay for it? yeah right
23. bayusuputra (Posts: 939; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
really? the only downside of the 808PV is the number of apps available and the not-so-great screen..
can the iPhone support 41MP camera with single core? No..
does the iPhone have options other than zoom/HDR/flash toggles in its camera? No..
Symbian is one of the most stable and capable OS (if not the most) out there.. Yes, even compared to Android, it is more capable.. forget about iOS..
It's just that not many developers develop apps for it anymore..
The iPhone wins in the eye candy category hands down.. but PureView is another league of its own.. THE cameraphone..
13. 234Real (Posts: 1; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)
This comparison is so bias and dosen't worth it. Make comparison objectively without making statement like "Since Nokia Belle FP1 is quite the frugal mobile OS, and the screen pixel density is so low, Nokia's handset performs pretty well in the battery life department, too". Why not say a high pixel density is a battery guzzler. Gsmarena does the balancing better.
15. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2957; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Imagine iPhone with the pureview bump!! That would be ugly!!!
The curves does add to the charm to the 808!!
As i look back, Nokia has always been about curves! :)
19. LodeStar (Posts: 28; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
no this isn't innovation! apple is the only one who creates innovation that everyones love :) over 200+ new innovation on every os update. i love it..
21. bbblader (Posts: 520; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
either dumbass or sarcastic
meh i choose dumbass
24. bayusuputra (Posts: 939; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
ok, i choose sarcastic..
sarcastic vs dumbass score: 1 : 1..
25. rkoforever90 (Posts: 18; Member since: 03 Dec 2011)
the cutting edge,ios cant do any multi tasking,dont have any connectivity option,neither offer any kind of customisation
And is a total brick without a pc and internet.
26. strikercho (Posts: 125; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
Dear Daniel P. and Phonearena, as I have posted numerous times on your site, I will say it again - Please, stop trying to analyze the companies' decisions. Thinking is not your strong side. "Unfortunately the PureView camera technology has been years in the making, and developed with the idea that the handset will be running Symbian,..." - WTF?! Who are you in the mobile phones world to make such conclusions? Why ''unfortunately''?! Why ''aging'', since Symbian updates arrive on time even FP 2 has come already! Jesus, aren''t you guys edited before posting?
28. qwertypoor (Posts: 72; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)
Um what other operating system would they have been intending to put it on then other then their operating system?
44. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
...Let's see. Maemo 5, Maemo 6, Meego? Nokia had more than one operating system at the time of the PV development.
33. RenatoSP (Posts: 1; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
This device by itself satisfies my needs. In case you have an ipad, why would you by an iphone?
45. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
You might buy the iPhone if you're and iFan whose iPad is too busy dealing with an iPeriod.
37. joshefmayer1 (Posts: 6; Member since: 07 May 2012)
Again a great phone by Nokia: - Nokia 808 pureview has a great feature of 41 MP Camera……..
I like the phone due to its features .If you prefer online shopping then you can go through shopbychoice(dot)com, it gives best deal on this phone.
One of my friend recently bought it @ Rs.32, 199/- after 5% discount, I willing to buy it
39. Jaris (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)
It seems Mr Andrewtst has never seen nor touched the 808. It has good feel to it and is a high quality device.
With iphone one has to use anyway protective covers (as it is otherwise too risky to carry around) which mean that the phone design becomes irrelevant.
40. alex09 (Posts: 6; Member since: 14 Jul 2012)
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47. Miley_3d (Posts: 16; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)
The Best Camera on phones in the World and it's Amazing=Nokia 808 PureView
48. mcfee (Posts: 5; Member since: 06 Oct 2012)
I own both phones.....Hands down 808 over IPhone 4s for me.....LOVE my Nokia ....still a working horse of a phone... You also don't have to charge it up every time you need it ...the IPhone dies fast and always needs a charge. My IPhone works a bit better for my Mac Air Book...but my Nokia pairs with more gadgets easier and more consistently. The hefty body that Nokia sports reminds me of a tank and I love the feel of it and if you drop one you find it is still made like a tank...mine hit straight down on the screen on concrete and came through like a tank...no difference in performance at all and the screen had only a tiny mark you have to look hard to find....Don't recommend that as a thing to try though. Love Symbian as well and don't want Windows at all....Global maps anywhere is also wonderful.... The tap and speak feature (unlike SIRI ...THANK GOD) can hear what the heck you say.
49. mcfee (Posts: 5; Member since: 06 Oct 2012)
To answer the Question The new IPhone 5 didn't even tempt me....Yes Nokia is worth buying over IPhone hands down unless maybe you use your phone with your Macbook Air then the IPhone has a tiny advantage.....But I like nearly everything else better on my Nokia 808 over my IPhone 4s....They need to make these Nokia unlocked phones dual so they can work on all types of networks though not just those with Micro SIM cards....that is my biggest problem...but the IPHones aren't dual either....Nokia newest cheaper phones I hear are dual though....but I will stick with the 808...They are worth every penny!
50. Samkapoor (Posts: 2; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)
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