Nokia 808 PureView ReviewNokia 808 PureView 8.5
The initial Symbian Belle release introduced multiple homescreens, resizable widgets and pull-down notification bar, as well as significantly cleaned up the code which sped up performance. Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the 808 PureView Nokia brings other enhancements like a ton of new widgets, including a useful data counter.
Moreover, it improves on Symbian's multitasking menu – long press the home key, and life-size previews of the last state you left the running apps in appear, making it a snap to recognize and chose where you want to return to. Symbian and Android are the only ones with true multitasking, until memory runs out, so this was a good area to focus on.
While Symbian Belle FP1 now has the looks of more advanced mobile operating systems, and runs fairly well on the 1.3GHz processor, it doesn't have the feel. There is a number of unnecessary warnings popping up when you use features for the first time, even simple stuff like connecting to a Wi-Fi network, or unneeded warnings about certificates and stuff no standard user ever wants to see. These stop showing when you log in with a Nokia account, though.
Furthermore, commands take way longer than on iOS, WP or Android – the loading circle appears often, plus app installations or updates might take many minutes and/or require more input from the user. 1GB of RAM would have been much better, but we have half of that here.
Granted, Ovi Store has 50, 000+ apps, which is not little at all, and covers a lot of ground, but most of them are with clunky interfaces, and/or way more expensive than what you'd find at the App or Play Stores, not to mention the nHD screen resolution they are made for. For social networking, for instance, you have to rely on the Nokia Social widget, which doesn't refresh automatically, and there are no notifications. If you want something better, you'd have to hit the Ovi Store.
The partnership with Microsoft trickled down to Symbian handsets as well, and a pretty polished versions of Office Mobile with OneNote runs native now, plus Microsoft's enterprise IM app Lync is present as well, complete with SharePoint logins and all. There's no tethering from the OS itself, but the best app for the task JoikuSpot is preinstalled. Another useful license comes with F-secure Mobile Security.
Overall, in terms of functionality Symbian Belle FP1 on the Nokia 808 PureView can rank along the modern Android, iOS, or Windows Phone, and sometimes excels in things like a full landscape layout and easy file transfer. When it comes to fluidity and user experience, though, it is much less uniform, requires a steeper learning curve, and its outdated resolution and processor support stand little chance against the contemporary mobile OS players.
Internet and Connectivity:
The Symbian Belle FP1 browser renders pages pretty badly, with the checkered boxes appearing almost every time you pinch to zoom in. Scrolling and panning around are also choppy compared to the competition, unless the page has loaded completely, not to mention the 360x640 screen res on a 4” screen, which is prohibitive for spending a lot of time in the browser. It supports Flash Lite 4.0, so ads and some Flash video websites will run, but games and eye candy design that needs full Adobe Flash support are a no-show.
The Nokia 808 PureView has a pentaband radio with up to 14.4 Mbps HSDPA downloads, so it should work with any micro-SIM you put in it. The handset has Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and A-GPS, which is taken a good use of with the free offline voice-guided navigation of Nokia Drive in most countries worldwide.
There is DLNA streaming, managed by the DLNA Play app, and NFC chip in the battery cover, which allows you to exchange content with other Nokia phones and accessories, play games with them and so on.
The microHDMI port at the top allows you to hook the phone easily to a TV and use the Big Screen app to manage your mirrored content. An FM Radio rounds it up, and the phone can serve as an FM transmitter to stream tunes to your car stereo with the Play via Radio app.
1. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
The problem of Nokia 808 PureView is that there is no 'balance' between a phone and camera. Good camera and not so good phone - no balance.
3. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Anyway, nice to see innovations in mobile handsets. :)
6. goesoer (Posts: 13; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
yeah, Nokia is always made innovations,, do you remember the camcorder-like-mobile phone?? it recorded briliant video on that time
28. Extraneus (Posts: 75; Member since: 02 Jun 2012)
Stupendous camera, good phone, not so good gaming machine, you mean?
If you need to make calls, send text messages, listen to music and take great photos, this phone will do it better than any other - the only place it falls short is on the app-front, but... Don't you own a tablet?!? ;)
35. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
If your needs are only to make a calls, send text messages, listen to music and take great photos, then I agree with you. But in many, many cases Symbian Belle isn't so 'flexible' OS and it is not about the gaming.
93. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
But that's the definition of a phone. For calling and SMS, you should've said that 808 is a good camera, good phone (nokia handsets are one of the bests in terms of phone quality), and not so smart.
96. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"...(nokia handsets are one of the bests in terms of phone quality), and not so smart."
100. markamps (Posts: 4; Member since: 04 May 2012)
"not so smart". So 808 is just a dumb phone with excellent camera?
126. agferrari (Posts: 2; Member since: 26 Jun 2012)
Hey, can you tell me what is the thing that Android can doe but Symbian Belle can't do.
Have do you use Belle?
136. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Symbian isn't so 'flexible' like Android. For example hacking, go to www.hackaday.com, how much hacks for Symbian do you see? Zero!
Have you heard about Google ADK and Arduino?
Or can you show me for example such thing like a Symbian PC System, I guess you can't. But here is such thing like Android PC System and only for $49:http://apc.io
142. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
have you visited dailymobile ever? no hacks? wtf granted most of the old guys moved on to different os' but the community is still thriving
as for pc system, thats why Nokia made Maemo a linux based os like android but its been around longer and Android likes to copy from it (like the drop down notification bar)
144. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"have you visited dailymobile ever? no hacks? wtf granted most of the old guys moved on to different os' but the community is still thriving"
So where is Symbian + Hardware hacks???
Do you even understand about what I'm talking about?
"as for pc system, thats why Nokia made Maemo a linux based os like android but its been around longer and Android likes to copy from it (like the drop down notification bar)"
Don't go off-topic! We are talking about Symbian, not about Maemo!
147. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
im reminded of Jackie Chan asking Chris Tucker "do you understand the words coming out of my mouth?"
and Chris Tucker replies "don't nobody understand the words coming out of your mouth man!"
148. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Seems that you are out of arguments. Next time get some knowledge before talking and don't go off-topic.
150. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
no... just seems like i made a point and you replied with "oh but you dont know what im talking about"
that clearly shows that either
a) you're incapable of getting your point across
b) you've got no argument and are just doing the back n forth babbling that we're currently involved in
154. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Have you visited links that I have posted because your talking not about the same things.
149. Hlorri (Posts: 40; Member since: 07 May 2008)
What kind of idiotic criteria are these?
Symbian can certainly be hacked. I, for one, am running my own custom firmware on my N8, an plan to do the same with the 808. Little tweaks like allowing the file manager to access "protected" files and folders, or allow it to install unsigned applications.
But again, why is this even considered? Fewer people hack Symbian, because it is more flexible out of the box than Android or iOS. (Consider, for example, all the various connectivity options for sending/receiving files via Bluetooth, USB, WebDAV, Nokia "Big Screen" for a nice interface to your HDMI enabled TV, built-in support for bluetooth mouse and keyboard, etc). In itself, Nokia phones could be used as "ultra-portable" computers ever since the N95.
Instead, as far as I see it, there are three areas where Symbian have fallen behind by now:
- Applications (not many developers want to develope for an OS whose main backer has declared it dead)
- Support for multi-core processors (only supports one).
- Screen resolution (limited to WVGA, 640x360).
Other than that, it is still the most powerful and flexible mobile OS on the planet.
153. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Symbian can certainly be hacked. I, for one, am running my own custom firmware on my N8, an plan to do the same with the 808. Little tweaks like allowing the file manager to access "protected" files and folders, or allow it to install unsigned applications."
I'm talking not about such kind of hacking...
"What kind of idiotic criteria are these?"
If you don't understand about what I'm talking about, don't say it is idiotic.
171. nissin (Posts: 2; Member since: 19 Jul 2012)
Thing is, most people don't use arduinos!
I know it's a disadvantage for those that do, but it sadly wouldn't be a part of the market the phone is aimed at.
If the OS grows further because of this phone and the microsoft link, we might just see such an addition. I for one wouldn't hold my breath and would continue to use wifi to control my arduino bots :)
32. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
If they build this camera into a win8 phone, I think you'd have a pretty decent combo
45. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Well, Belle FP1 is more powerful OS than WP8.
38. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)
Its so ridiculous how people want the best of everything. I mean it makes phone calls, texts, and you can check the web and it has free offline maps. Seriously it has all that yet because the OS is not as intuitive as Android/iOS/WP7 it's considered bad? Come on people it does the basics and then some, and it has the best camera on a phone available today, so it's time to give it a break on the phone part or rethink what you really need on a "phone".
43. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
If your needs are only to make a calls and send text messages, then you need a phone not smartphone. :)
64. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)
Yeah agreed. I just think it makes an okay phone too.
132. markamps (Posts: 4; Member since: 04 May 2012)
And people must not only know the difference between a smartphone and an ordinary phone, but also the difference between the standards of today's smartphone and the smartphone of prehistoric age.
83. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Actually, Belle with FP1 is very similar to Android, IMO. The problem is that it lacks certain apps, such as Kindle. In terms of hardware features, the phone is packed with goodies. Of course, it using older CPU tech, but this doesn't matter because Belle needs less resoruces to operate than Android. Bottom line, it's a very capable phone...but is limited by an app ecosystem hovering around 70,000 apps. The browser is OK, but still not up to Opera level. In any event, you can download Opera too.
92. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
At least qhd screen !
What's the point of good camera and crappy screen ?
I will have to keep transferring those photos to a pc to really enjoy them
157. Skylarc (Posts: 1; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
With a camera like this it would be a crime NOT to move it to the computer, work on it in photoshop and show it online in big resolution. That is how you will enjoy this pictures.
If you just want good pictures on your own phone. Then go ahead and use any crapy camera that are in phones today, you will not even know the diffrence.
178. NokiaN8 (Posts: 1; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
So, enough with the infantile replies PhoneArenaUser ? I gues you have not passed the first 12 years of your life and yet to discover beer and women. But please don't go shouting all this bulls**t. A phone is not a phone because you say it is, a phone is a phone, the specs dont make it a phone, and te pros and cons don't make it good and bad. Let's let people decide wether to buy it or not, so enougn with the bulls**t already, and go buy a S3 or One X because everybody tends to buy it, and you are not yet on the verge to discover your own opinion, but that will come when you hit puberty.
Ontopic, it is a no-nonse phone, which can do just about everything a modern smartphone can. It dousn't have a 2ghz quad core in it for 12years olds to play games, and dousn't have 1.000.000 worhtless apps. But hey, maybe some people dont want to game on their smartphone? or carry an lcd tv in their pocket, running from AC to AC to power a quad core that is by far overpowered for any task to be done. Maybe it isn't 1mm thick and able to break in 2 after a fly pooped on your screen, it is however a smartphone capable of doing anything a grownup needs from a phone. Browse, music, Stream 1080p to your tv, make unbelieveable good pictures and yet last a few days on a bettery. It's realy one in it's kind, where no phone can match him, that can make him appeal to you, or not. Simple as that.
2. kamil (Posts: 115; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)
amazing camera is the only great feature i see in this phone. quiet disappointing to only see one amazing feature on an anticipated phone.
12. SleepingOz (unregistered)
I agree, the camera is awesome!
But the phone, itself, is mediocre.
22. Birds (Posts: 1110; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
The phone has an old CPU but nokia did some tricks. They added a powerful GPU and two extra cores one for background tasks and the other for the camera. This phone is perfectly optimized to run Symbian, considering it can play high bitrate 2K resolution videos. I'm not saying the phone is better than what I anticipated, because some things like the web browser and task switching were simply disappointing.... However, I fall into the photo niche of people who have powerful DSLR's but don't feel like lugging the two pound behemoth around.
34. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"...it can play high bitrate 2K resolution videos."
And how you will take advantage of it ? :)
2048x1080 (2K) on 4 inches 360 x 640 resolution display, I don't think so...
2048x1080 (2K) also impossible broadcast through Analog Video Connector (TV Out with composite)...
And anyway, I'm not sure if Nokia PureView 808 even able to play 2048x1080 (2K) videos! Could you show me a source where you find such info?
36. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"2048x1080 (2K) also impossible broadcast through Analog Video Connector (TV Out with composite)..."
Sorry, my fault! It has HDMI! :)
But, I'm still not sure about if Nokia PureView 808 even able to play 2048x1080 (2K) videos.
46. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Don't know about 2K, but it certainly can play 1080p videos, and 2K is barely 7% more data, so i guess there's enough power under the hood.
Also, it doesn't matter much that u don't have 720p or 1080p screen.U will not always have 360p versions of video, so it's important if HW is capable to decode any resolution video.
60. Birds (Posts: 1110; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Still, I think this phone deserves a little more credit than what alot of people are giving it. In a way, this device is dual core. ROFL but in a weird, convoluted kind of way that....well still makes the device pretty decent nonetheless.
66. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"...this device is dual core."
Which part is Dual-Core? Because CPU is Single.
70. Birds (Posts: 1110; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
I'm not saying it is S4 or Exynos dual core. I'm saying it is single core with an added core for task switching!!! I don't want to get all technical about what I was inferring because I'm pretty sure you know what I meant. Read OUTSIDE the box sometimes.......it has two extra low powered cores one for the camera and one for task switching....enough said. I still say it is single core because it still has a primary core but technically it is triple cored of you want to get technical!!! lol
127. agferrari (Posts: 2; Member since: 26 Jun 2012)
It's not exactly "dual core" but,
it has, 1 cpu, 1 graphic processor, and
another dedicated grapich processo for the image/video of the camera.
137. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
For example Samsung Galaxy III has Quad-Core CPU and also has a GPU, but noone says that it has Five Cores...
151. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
it'd be called 5 cpus at most
nokia was the first to go multi-core back in the day and it was called dual cpu (not core)
4. goesoer (Posts: 13; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
let's see Nokia LUMIA with PureView on the future,, it can be the real phone that "designed for human",,
5. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Start building some hype in regards to wp8 Nokia. Seems you're starting to lose steam.
7. steelicon (Posts: 315; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
Nokia Belle FP1 has come a long, long way from the clunky, buggy, slow OS of the past.
Try to watch that YouTube clip. More Input and Output options to most devices, better UI and UX implementation, great configurable software.
16. ReturningToNokia (Posts: 130; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
Steelicon - save your sales pitch for your job (yeah, we know you've got that goal to sell alot of Nokia 808's). What is it, 3 so far? Good work!
52. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)
Try to watch that YouTube clip.
72. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Great. But all i did all of this (USB on-the-go keyboards, mices, HDMI output to TV) on my N8 in late 2010. Long before SGS2 was announced.
94. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)
it works with USB DAC!!! and HDD without power supply!!! even tablets can't do that
159. xsacha (Posts: 11; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
And yet the Nokia N8 from 2010 can work with USB DAC and HDD without power supply.
Everything the SGS2 can do, the Nokia N8 could do in 2010.
And so can this 808.
8. AzhiKarim (Posts: 5; Member since: 24 May 2012)
You guys that say this phone only has one good feature .. you are fu*king wrong !! you probably didn't try the OS so much and you don't know so much about it , if you had .. u wouldn't have said that ... this phone has lots of features that even the more expensive phones don't have such as Fm transmitter and lots of other little things .. i have a 701 and it's cool but one downside with it is the Camera of it which has no Auto-Focus but this phone looks like the real deal
10. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
If you are talking about me, I don't say that Nokia 808 PureView has the ONLY ONE good feature. Yes, I have tried this OS and I know about FM transmitter, I even have my old Nokia N95 8GB in my drawer. But I'm still not amazed!
13. AzhiKarim (Posts: 5; Member since: 24 May 2012)
no i'm not talking about you but lots of people just don't know what this phone can do , i mean they just think this is the old and ugly symbian .. you are right that this phone doesn't have so many good apps and games like android and iOS but it does the job simply for you