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Nokia 808 PureView Review

Nokia 808 PureView 8.5

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The initial Symbian Belle release introduced multiple homescreens, resizable widgets and pull-down notification bar, as well as significantly cleaned up the code which sped up performance. Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the 808 PureView Nokia brings other enhancements like a ton of new widgets, including a useful data counter.

Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements - Nokia 808 PureView Review

Symbian Belle Feature Pack 1 that's running on the Nokia 808 PureView brings many enhancements


Moreover, it improves on Symbian's multitasking menu – long press the home key, and life-size previews of the last state you left the running apps in appear, making it a snap to recognize and chose where you want to return to. Symbian and Android are the only ones with true multitasking, until memory runs out, so this was a good area to focus on.

Multitasking - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Multitasking - Nokia 808 PureView Review

Multitasking


While Symbian Belle FP1 now has the looks of more advanced mobile operating systems, and runs fairly well on the 1.3GHz processor, it doesn't have the feel. There is a number of unnecessary warnings popping up when you use features for the first time, even simple stuff like connecting to a Wi-Fi network, or unneeded warnings about certificates and stuff no standard user ever wants to see. These stop showing when you log in with a Nokia account, though.

Furthermore, commands take way longer than on iOS, WP or Android – the loading circle appears often, plus app installations or updates might take many minutes and/or require more input from the user. 1GB of RAM would have been much better, but we have half of that here.

Granted, Ovi Store has 50, 000+ apps, which is not little at all, and covers a lot of ground, but most of them are with clunky interfaces, and/or way more expensive than what you'd find at the App or Play Stores, not to mention the nHD screen resolution they are made for. For social networking, for instance, you have to rely on the Nokia Social widget, which doesn't refresh automatically, and there are no notifications. If you want something better, you'd have to hit the Ovi Store.

Nokia Social widget - Nokia 808 PureView Review
Nokia Social widget - Nokia 808 PureView Review

Nokia Social widget


The partnership with Microsoft trickled down to Symbian handsets as well, and a pretty polished versions of Office Mobile with OneNote runs native now, plus Microsoft's enterprise IM app Lync is present as well, complete with SharePoint logins and all. There's no tethering from the OS itself, but the best app for the task JoikuSpot is preinstalled. Another useful license comes with F-secure Mobile Security.

Overall, in terms of functionality Symbian Belle FP1 on the Nokia 808 PureView can rank along the modern Android, iOS, or Windows Phone, and sometimes excels in things like a full landscape layout and easy file transfer. When it comes to fluidity and user experience, though, it is much less uniform, requires a steeper learning curve, and its outdated resolution and processor support stand little chance against the contemporary mobile OS players.


Internet and Connectivity:

The Symbian Belle FP1 browser renders pages pretty badly, with the checkered boxes appearing almost every time you pinch to zoom in. Scrolling and panning around are also choppy compared to the competition, unless the page has loaded completely, not to mention the 360x640 screen res on a 4” screen, which is prohibitive for spending a lot of time in the browser. It supports Flash Lite 4.0, so ads and some Flash video websites will run, but games and eye candy design that needs full Adobe Flash support are a no-show.

The Symbian Belle FP1 browser of the Nokia 808 PureView - Nokia 808 PureView Review
The Symbian Belle FP1 browser of the Nokia 808 PureView - Nokia 808 PureView Review
The Symbian Belle FP1 browser of the Nokia 808 PureView - Nokia 808 PureView Review
The Symbian Belle FP1 browser of the Nokia 808 PureView - Nokia 808 PureView Review

The Symbian Belle FP1 browser of the Nokia 808 PureView


The Nokia 808 PureView has a pentaband radio with up to 14.4 Mbps HSDPA downloads, so it should work with any micro-SIM you put in it. The handset has Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and A-GPS, which is taken a good use of with the free offline voice-guided navigation of Nokia Drive in most countries worldwide.

There is DLNA streaming, managed by the DLNA Play app, and NFC chip in the battery cover, which allows you to exchange content with other Nokia phones and accessories, play games with them and so on.

The microHDMI port at the top allows you to hook the phone easily to a TV and use the Big Screen app to manage your mirrored content. An FM Radio rounds it up, and the phone can serve as an FM transmitter to stream tunes to your car stereo with the Play via Radio app.

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posted on 25 Jun 2012, 10:01 17

1. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


The problem of Nokia 808 PureView is that there is no 'balance' between a phone and camera. Good camera and not so good phone - no balance.

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 10:15 24

3. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Anyway, nice to see innovations in mobile handsets. :)

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 10:22 14

6. goesoer (Posts: 15; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


yeah, Nokia is always made innovations,, do you remember the camcorder-like-mobile phone?? it recorded briliant video on that time

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 12:14 14

28. Extraneus (Posts: 121; Member since: 02 Jun 2012)


Stupendous camera, good phone, not so good gaming machine, you mean?
If you need to make calls, send text messages, listen to music and take great photos, this phone will do it better than any other - the only place it falls short is on the app-front, but... Don't you own a tablet?!? ;)

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 13:15 6

35. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


If your needs are only to make a calls, send text messages, listen to music and take great photos, then I agree with you. But in many, many cases Symbian Belle isn't so 'flexible' OS and it is not about the gaming.

posted on 26 Jun 2012, 04:33 5

93. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


But that's the definition of a phone. For calling and SMS, you should've said that 808 is a good camera, good phone (nokia handsets are one of the bests in terms of phone quality), and not so smart.

posted on 26 Jun 2012, 05:05 4

96. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"...(nokia handsets are one of the bests in terms of phone quality), and not so smart."

Agree.

posted on 26 Jun 2012, 06:08 2

100. markamps (Posts: 4; Member since: 04 May 2012)


"not so smart". So 808 is just a dumb phone with excellent camera?

posted on 26 Jun 2012, 22:33 5

126. agferrari (Posts: 2; Member since: 26 Jun 2012)


Hey, can you tell me what is the thing that Android can doe but Symbian Belle can't do.
Have do you use Belle?

posted on 27 Jun 2012, 06:49

136. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Symbian isn't so 'flexible' like Android. For example hacking, go to www.hackaday.com, how much hacks for Symbian do you see? Zero!
Have you heard about Google ADK and Arduino?
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/usb/adk.html

Or can you show me for example such thing like a Symbian PC System, I guess you can't. But here is such thing like Android PC System and only for $49:http://apc.io

posted on 28 Jun 2012, 06:05

142. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


have you visited dailymobile ever? no hacks? wtf granted most of the old guys moved on to different os' but the community is still thriving

as for pc system, thats why Nokia made Maemo a linux based os like android but its been around longer and Android likes to copy from it (like the drop down notification bar)

posted on 28 Jun 2012, 11:55

144. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"have you visited dailymobile ever? no hacks? wtf granted most of the old guys moved on to different os' but the community is still thriving"

So where is Symbian + Hardware hacks???
Do you even understand about what I'm talking about?

"as for pc system, thats why Nokia made Maemo a linux based os like android but its been around longer and Android likes to copy from it (like the drop down notification bar)"

Don't go off-topic! We are talking about Symbian, not about Maemo!

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 06:06

147. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


im reminded of Jackie Chan asking Chris Tucker "do you understand the words coming out of my mouth?"

and Chris Tucker replies "don't nobody understand the words coming out of your mouth man!"

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 12:54

148. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Seems that you are out of arguments. Next time get some knowledge before talking and don't go off-topic.

posted on 30 Jun 2012, 06:31 3

150. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


no... just seems like i made a point and you replied with "oh but you dont know what im talking about"

that clearly shows that either
a) you're incapable of getting your point across
or
b) you've got no argument and are just doing the back n forth babbling that we're currently involved in

posted on 30 Jun 2012, 07:19 1

154. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Have you visited links that I have posted because your talking not about the same things.

posted on 30 Jun 2012, 01:40 1

149. Hlorri (Posts: 40; Member since: 07 May 2008)


What kind of idiotic criteria are these?

Symbian can certainly be hacked. I, for one, am running my own custom firmware on my N8, an plan to do the same with the 808. Little tweaks like allowing the file manager to access "protected" files and folders, or allow it to install unsigned applications.

But again, why is this even considered? Fewer people hack Symbian, because it is more flexible out of the box than Android or iOS. (Consider, for example, all the various connectivity options for sending/receiving files via Bluetooth, USB, WebDAV, Nokia "Big Screen" for a nice interface to your HDMI enabled TV, built-in support for bluetooth mouse and keyboard, etc). In itself, Nokia phones could be used as "ultra-portable" computers ever since the N95.

Instead, as far as I see it, there are three areas where Symbian have fallen behind by now:
- Applications (not many developers want to develope for an OS whose main backer has declared it dead)
- Support for multi-core processors (only supports one).
- Screen resolution (limited to WVGA, 640x360).

Other than that, it is still the most powerful and flexible mobile OS on the planet.

posted on 30 Jun 2012, 07:16

153. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Symbian can certainly be hacked. I, for one, am running my own custom firmware on my N8, an plan to do the same with the 808. Little tweaks like allowing the file manager to access "protected" files and folders, or allow it to install unsigned applications."

I'm talking not about such kind of hacking...

"What kind of idiotic criteria are these?"

If you don't understand about what I'm talking about, don't say it is idiotic.

posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:09

171. nissin (Posts: 2; Member since: 19 Jul 2012)


Thing is, most people don't use arduinos!
I know it's a disadvantage for those that do, but it sadly wouldn't be a part of the market the phone is aimed at.
If the OS grows further because of this phone and the microsoft link, we might just see such an addition. I for one wouldn't hold my breath and would continue to use wifi to control my arduino bots :)

posted on 09 Sep 2012, 12:59

181. jsboy (Posts: 1; Member since: 09 Sep 2012)


then what kind of hacking DO you mean?

posted on 13 Aug 2012, 03:45

176. lamborghini666 (Posts: 2; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)


crappy :(:(:(:(:P:P

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 12:48 9

32. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


If they build this camera into a win8 phone, I think you'd have a pretty decent combo

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 15:14 9

45. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Well, Belle FP1 is more powerful OS than WP8.

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 13:32 8

38. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)


Its so ridiculous how people want the best of everything. I mean it makes phone calls, texts, and you can check the web and it has free offline maps. Seriously it has all that yet because the OS is not as intuitive as Android/iOS/WP7 it's considered bad? Come on people it does the basics and then some, and it has the best camera on a phone available today, so it's time to give it a break on the phone part or rethink what you really need on a "phone".

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 14:59 5

43. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


If your needs are only to make a calls and send text messages, then you need a phone not smartphone. :)

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 17:31 3

64. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)


Yeah agreed. I just think it makes an okay phone too.

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 21:11

65. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


It is ok, it is your opinion. :)

posted on 27 Jun 2012, 05:41 1

132. markamps (Posts: 4; Member since: 04 May 2012)


Agree.

And people must not only know the difference between a smartphone and an ordinary phone, but also the difference between the standards of today's smartphone and the smartphone of prehistoric age.

posted on 26 Jun 2012, 02:42 3

83. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


Actually, Belle with FP1 is very similar to Android, IMO. The problem is that it lacks certain apps, such as Kindle. In terms of hardware features, the phone is packed with goodies. Of course, it using older CPU tech, but this doesn't matter because Belle needs less resoruces to operate than Android. Bottom line, it's a very capable phone...but is limited by an app ecosystem hovering around 70,000 apps. The browser is OK, but still not up to Opera level. In any event, you can download Opera too.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 03:48

146. dxbjan_2008 (Posts: 1; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


Correct..!! Good points..!! :)

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Display4.0 inches, 360 x 640 pixels (184 ppi) AMOLED
Camera41 megapixels
Hardware
Single core, 1300 MHz, ARM11 processor
0.5 GB RAM
Size4.88 x 2.37 x 0.55 inches
(123.9 x 60.2 x 13.9 mm)
5.96 oz  (169 g)
Battery1400 mAh, 11 hours talk time

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