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Jolla Smartphone Review

0. phoneArena 14 Feb 2014, 07:00 posted on

What's unique about the Jolla smartphone is that it is powered by Sailfish OS – a new platform based on the now-forgotten MeeGo operating system. The software is capable of running Android apps and it its user interface relies heavily on gesture-based user interaction...

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posted on 14 Feb 2014, 08:48

39. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2072; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


Ignore those trolls!

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 08:31 4

33. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


"In other words, we're dealing with an underdog mobile operating system built upon a product that flopped."

It didn't flop. It was put down by Elop, before any product was released. Get Your facts straight!

"We've been using the Jolla smartphone for several days now, and as much as we're trying to force ourselves to like its gesture-based navigation, we're still finding it a tad frustrating."

Seriously? Gestures are one of the most stand out features, of this OS, and You give it around 5 sentences? And all you say is that You generally don't like it, because it's too different from other systems. That seems extremely unfair.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:42 2

78. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


""In other words, we're dealing with an underdog mobile operating system built upon a product that flopped."

It didn't flop. It was put down by Elop, before any product was released. Get Your facts straight!"

^Exactly what I've been saying.

People fail to realize that the N9 outsold many other devices, including other Nokia phones running Windows OS, in all the markets it was released in (which, on purpose, were not many). Once Elop caught wind of this, there was a "supply shortage". Go figure. Dude was a Trojan horse (too kind...more of a disgusting mole).

History cannot be rewritten, the facts present themselves, no matter how this site tries to put their spin on it.

Peace.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 11:07 4

84. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


Used N9 still costs arount 200$ in my country. If You manage to find new it will cost around 350$. It was one of Nokias greatest creations.

I once listened pre-Elop ceo plans. It was one of the wisest nad most inspiring mobile phones statements, I've ever heard. He said something like this (around 2010): As a mobile phone makers, the whole industry harms society. Operating smartphones require to much attention from user. They steal users attention from surounding world. Peoples interests drops, as they focus on a tiny screen. The MeeGo mission was to bring peoples focus back to life. Its mission was to allow people do desired actions with one hand and barely looking on the screen.

I agree with it, and Sailfish tries to continue this mission. I believe this is something people need (although they may not realize it yet).

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 08:46 2

38. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2072; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


Brutal/Harsh is an understatement for what this review is. Would've expected atleast a 7.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 08:50 1

40. ryan5609 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)


The review and low score is justified by the price alone. Look at the comps. For $550 you can probably get new or slightly used a LG G2, Nexus 5, Moto X, Galaxy S4, any Windows phone, you could probably even find a iPhone 5 for that price. Or you could get 5 Moto G's, etc... All of which you will receive better specs, performance, battery life, photo/video quality across the board. If you feel like paying a very large premium for Sailfish OS then be my guest.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 09:16 2

54. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


No one is arguing, that the score shouldn't have been lower than score of "LG G2, Nexus 5, Moto X, Galaxy S4". They are clearly all with better hardware, and more mature software, than Jolla. But 2 in readers mind means total crap, and that opinion is unjustified.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:48

80. ryan5609 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)


Ok. Then do this for me. I am new to the smartphone market. Never had one before, I don't know any thing about Android, iOS or Windows phone, so Sailfish and Jolla are new to me as well. I have $550 to buy a phone, sell me this phone.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 11:37 1

87. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


It's not a phone for everybody. Nevertheless, if You want to have considerably large screen, but You need to operate it with one hand without stretching Your thumb, this phone will deliver greatest user experience for You. If You're tired of hitting buttons for everything, try swiping. If You want a truly standout phone, this is it. At last if You're computer scientist or Linux fan, and like freedom, that linux gives You, this is the purest linux You can get on a phone.

I'm not a salesman. I did the best I could :).

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 12:48

94. ryan5609 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)


Jolla Target demographic:

One armed men/women with small hands, People who think using buttons (physical or onscreen) is mundane, Computer scientists, Linux fans.

My suggestion. Geeky people looking for a pure Linux phone should probably try Ubuntu for Android, after all, it is free.

Save yourself $200, buy a Nexus 5, dual boot Android and Ubuntu touch.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 17:44 1

103. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


Small handed people are quite a large market. One armed, small handed is almost non-existent, but small handed, that does things while operating phone seems to be quite sygnificant amount. Before smartfone era, people used one hand to operate phone. I thing many small handed friends, would love to be able to do that again.

There is a big chance, that once someone gets used to swipes, they may be much more convenient than buttons. You don't have to focus as much on a screen wich is a good thing.

I wouldn't underestimate linux fans. Look at the world around you. Internet, Google, Cloud storage, Cloud computing, Facebook, Ethernet in every company. Who do You think manages all this? Linux fans.

Don't scratch this product off the market yet. 2/10 is one sided and unfair grade.Tthe phone has definitely its drawbacks, and is unable to compete with todays flagships, but it has its advantages, that this review fails to mention.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 11:37 1

88. jellmoo (Posts: 1699; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)


That's not the target market though. This is a very niche device made by a small group that just don't have the resources to compete with companies like Samsung or Apple. It has incredibly limited carrier support, and none of the supply lines that keep costs down.

This isn't a device that will appeal to new consumers. This is a device targeted at people who loved old school Nokia products, and the N9 in particular. Nobody in their right mind considers this a competitive product to other devices in that price range. This is closer to a proof of concept and a building block to hopefully something bigger and better.

It isn't a mass consumer product and trying to grade it like one without proper context is ridiculous.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:51

82. ryan5609 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)


It's like paying $400 for a PS4, but instead of the PS4 you get an Ouya.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 09:16 2

53. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3689; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Still this sailfish OS seems more functional than ios and wp. Atleast by the looks of it and what i've read about it.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 09:17

56. Vanster (Posts: 124; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)


maybe PA click the wrong score, just like typo with autotext

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 09:30 5

60. nexusdude (Posts: 151; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)


This phone is not made for simpletons like you, Nick T.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 09:39 5

62. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2072; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


This review is probably the most controversial one in the history of PA.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 09:55 2

66. Ikechukwu (Posts: 202; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)


2? A 2???? you've got to be kidding me. That's it for me and PA reviews

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:07 2

68. bigv6691 (Posts: 10; Member since: 08 Jan 2014)


You people defending this thing like it's the next big thing. The hardware sucks, the Os isn't mature, if it was cheaper it might have gotten a higher score. But you can get phones way better than this for the same price. So I think the score is justified.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:45 3

79. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


Lower score, than those 'way better phones' is justified. But not 2. The OS runs snappy on this device - it's mentioned in a review. There are some problems, but the review doesn't show the whole picture.

It has very comfortable one hand operational UI. This alone is a differentiation factor, that to some makes it a very tempting product. The review omits that fact entirely.

It's unfair. If we aproach to something new, with presumption, that IOS, and Android deliver best approach to everything, and nothing better can be done, we think inside the box. Reviewing entirely new product demands thinking outside the box. Nick stated, that this product demands too much learning, and that was all... This isn't a product for people who are unable to learn, therefore it shouldn't be revised by them...

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:59

83. ryan5609 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)


If the price for the Jolla was around the $100-200 mark, I could see this getting a much better score. But with smartphones you usually get what you pay for (Moto G being the exception), that is not the case with the Jolla. I know it must be extremely difficult to compete with the like of LG, Moto, Samsung, etc. But that is the competition none the less, they can afford to manufacture phones with low profit margins. Only the very adventurous will purchase this phone.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:12 2

69. Planterz (Posts: 2103; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


To everybody complaining about the low rating:

Do you own this phone?
Have you even touched this phone?
Have you used one for a week or more?
Do you have any reason to claim this phone isn't a piece of crap?
Do you think this phone is worth the money?
Do you think it's a better phone than others in its price range?

No doubt PA's low score of this phone isn't merely a combination of crappiness and lack of value, but also a result of frustration, annoyance, and disgust with using it for several days.

Yes, Sailfish is in its early, fledging stages. But that doesn't excuse it from being an overpriced, buggy hunk of crap.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:24 6

74. jellmoo (Posts: 1699; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)


"Have you used one for a week or more?"

Nope. And given the quality of this review, I highly doubt PA did either.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:28 1

76. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


The way some ppl are taking this....you would think they had a hand in developing it.

I agree....even then....if I based my buying decision only on reviews...I wouldnt have gotten the Droid X. It got bashed more than it got praised. Even had some pro reviewers bringing up locked bootloaders as a negative.....something the general public knows are even cares about.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 10:24 1

73. dorianb (Posts: 600; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


A 2.... ?? Ouch.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 11:28

86. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Not a good thing when one of your pros is "usable daytime photos". That should always be expected.

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 11:40 2

89. OLDek (Posts: 1; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


This is politics. Not a US. OS

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 12:45 4

93. sbw44 (Posts: 433; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)


I can't wait for crapsungs tizen OS to come out based on this review it should get 1/10 or wait it will probably get 8+ because its made by crapsung!

posted on 14 Feb 2014, 13:46 2

96. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Wow. You are super clever. Where do you come up with such massive amounts of creativity?!

posted on 15 Feb 2014, 01:15 3

108. sbw44 (Posts: 433; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)


Can't accept the truth?

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