HTC Touch Pro CDMA ReviewHTC Touch Pro CDMA - Verizon 7
The major difference though is system memory. All other versions have shipped with 288MB of RAM and 512MB ROM, but inexplicably Verizon has stripped it down to 192/512MB. ISM (Intimate Shared Memory) - which lets the device use RAM more efficiently- has doubled to 64MB, but that doesn’t compensate for total loss of memory which is sorely felt. Verizon’s Pro is sluggish, and we found ourselves waiting to do just about anything. After startup the VZW Pro had 58% of its memory in use, compared with 32% from the Sprint Pro. There is an apparent memory leak as well, as we commonly found our Pro in the 60s a while after startup and even saw it as high as 77% with only ActiveSync (which automatically pops up,) if anything, running. Memory leaks are nothing new for Windows Mobile, but that is fairly severe especially when you’re dealing with less memory in the first place. The Pro supports microSD expansion, but Verizon does not include the 1GB memory card that Sprint does.
For the most part the software remains the same. It runs a Verizonized version of TouchFLO 3D, with a red and gray theme and reorganized and sometimes renamed icons. The functionally, however, remains exactly the same. We do have to note that TF3D is not enabled out of the box; the user must enable the plug-in via Today in the options menu. Included programs are similar to Sprint’s offering, with apps like Remote Desktop and Jetcet Print 5 still along for the ride. VZ Navigator is your only GPS option; Verizon has locked the feature and so applications such as Google Maps and other third party offerings cannot take advantage of it. Also missing, for no good reason, is HTC’s wonderful YouTube client. VZAppZone is your download portal for new applications.
Most of what we loved about previous Pros is still available in the VZW version; it’s just that the reduced memory makes the overall experience less enjoyable. It’s like driving a Ferrari through a parking garage; you know there is so much more potential but you just can’t tap into it. Verizon has gotten grief in the past for crippling features, most notably for their handling of Bluetooth and their standardized UI, but this is the first time they’ve actually crippled hardware. Quite frankly it is unacceptable, especially since they skimped on the materials as well. What’s worse is that they have the nerve to charge $50-70 more than Sprint, AT&T and Alltel for a less-capable device. We know you have a great network Verizon, but why do you continue to deliver inferior products?
- Still a good business device
- Easier to use keyboard
- Decreased memory leads to performance issues
- Inferior materials compared to other Pro variants
- Overall feel is still not up to the Diamond standard
- Increased price; decreased functionality
Yeah I dont understand why they decided to reduce the memory and change the phone. what was the benefit of that? to make it cheaper to produce? It seems to still be a good phone but its disappointing.
reduce production costs, strip features, reduce functionality, charge more. its the network!
16. cartman (unregistered)
total bs it still costs more than other carriers, who actually left the better part alone. what's the point of the network if you cant use it to the fullest extent? [i'm also guessing they count other roaming-agreement towers as part of their network]
by making the phone different from the Sprint version, it would actually cost more to manufacture. Verizon should have NO control over smartphones. HTC should offer Verizon its phones, and Verizon should accept it the way they were designed. Obviously, HTC didn't make this phone weaker on purpose, they were forced to.
23. Big Red (Posts: 101; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
Do your research before making unsubstantiated claims about this phone. Have any of you even held one? Lets start at the top by clearing up the main gripes I have been reading about: Accelleromiter - present. Radio - never had one to cripple in the first place, so stop saying it was crippled. Memory - VZW partitioned 96 megs from the ram to be dedicated to graphics. This IMPROVES the speed of the phone. GPS - locked to VZnav for now, the upcoming VZW update unlocks it, so hold tight. As for the competition, come on. The Fuze? Really? You call the VZW pro crippled? Why did AT&T cripple their network? Where is all that "fastest 3G" they keep saying they have!? Edge? Wow.
2. Esa (unregistered)
VZW screws up again!
5. David the Gom (unregistered)
The only reason i can think why vzw screwed up this phone is to sell more BB storm... in US, vzw has some exclusivity (not sure about the spelling, but whatever..) on storm and if they can't sell a set amount of them they'll not be the exclusive carrier for storm in US... so i think that's why they screwed up touch pro... why vzw!!! why!!!
then how do you explain the omnia being a freakin tank?
This article lies about the RAM. HTC has officially stated to verizon that its 288mbs of ram. The Tech Refrences and device specs all state 288mb of ram. So either you guys have reviewed a defective model, HTC is lying to Verizon Wireless, or your review is deliberately Misleading your audiance.
You're an idiot, every single review out there states the same thing and for good reason. Hell, they even have a screenshot showing only 113MB of RAM.
verizon officially says it has 192mb
13. DeeBee (unregistered)
Yep, still crippled :) Big Red have to stop doing this...
18. vzw fanman (unregistered)
i dont understand why verizon wont listen to people and stop "crippling" their phones, compared to other carriers. what keeps driving verizon to "cripple" their phones?
24. Big Red (Posts: 101; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
It is 288. 96 megs are partitioned and used exclusively for graphics. Therefore they cannot be counted with the general ram
And this is why I got the Fuze instead of this. Programs load quick and it never lags when using TouchFLO.
25. Big Red (Posts: 101; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
What happens when you try to load a web page? Thank god for Wifi.
I was trying to activate the TF3D interface in the store demo Because AI wanted to try it, but couldn't do it. Can someone tell me how to get it running?
Start, Settings, Today, Items Tab. Check the TF3d box and exit out of the menus. It will take a second to loadl.
15. cartman (unregistered)
This is one example I can rant on: As to your ferrari comparison, it is more like a ferrari appearance on the outside, only to find all the shiny looking items to be plastic, and as if the engine is from some cheap a__ car from a geo. So yea, how can the *fanboys* defend this strip down of a perfectly good piece of hardware? Low RAM, Locked GPS, No Youtube player (and btw, Google Maps tops everything, good thing you can use that on Sprint), I wonder if they took out the accelerometer too. Also, with $420, I can go get a fuze, and still have money left for a latte. Or, the G1 unlocked.
I have no defense. its lame and its bs. bad move by vzw. but on the bright side the omnia is awesome =/
19. primewax (unregistered)
I usually defend the company when their decisions make sense. This one does not. Its really lame :(
I agree... this device is a waste of time and money for vzw. The teeter game is still in place and is the only thing that stayed. I currently have a 6900 with manila 2d, which is the TF2D hacked from the opal running which is installed as a cab file on my device and it runs better than the TF3D on the VZW Touch "Slow." If you want this phone for TF3D don't get it. Buy a 6900 or an omnia and install TF2D on it. It will get the flair that HTC brings to WinMo without the junk that VZW advised HTC to build for this model. Seriously the omnia rules. Search YouTube for OMNIA M2D.
22. viper3two (Posts: 1; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I had never been so pissed at VZW for doing this. I waited months for this phone, been reading all the reviews/specs/sites about it, and even stayed up till 2 am the day it was avail on the site to order it. It went back in 4 DAYS. I cannot believe that VZW has the nerve to cripple the hardware in such a beautiful phone, then charge 50 bux more than the competition for it. It was practically USELESS the way it lagged and would not respond to anything. It was not a buggy phone, this was due to the VERY LOW memory spec that VZW ordered it from HTC. I agree, if I were HTC I would offer only 288mb, take it or leave it. Whoever the execs are at VZW that made this decision to make some money have got to be about the dumbest people I have ever heard of. What retards.
27. bdizzah (Posts: 1; Member since: 22 Dec 2008)
Two conflicting ideas on this, big Red above states that they have partitioned of 96 megs for graphical rendering (which would make the available ram 192 as stated on both the vzw site as well as htc's page). If this is the case, then why would this run slower than the sprint or at&t model. i was, and still am, very intersted in this handset. I would just like to know if this is just a case of verizon hating (there is alot of it on alot of these boards) or is this phone really that bad. i was told by a rep instore to go for the Omnia over this phone, but just want to know the general feelings on actual owners. seeing how this dude sent his back after four days, i was wondering if anyone is actually happy with this handset.