HTC Radar Review
0. phoneArena 10 Oct 2011, 09:10 posted on
Windows Phone 7 kicked things off to a mixed start. Despite critical acclaim, Microsoft, hardware manufacturers and vendors were under-whelmed by its lack of consumer uptake. So while the platform has definitely fared better than, say, WebOS, it’s certainly left the bottom line a bit thin on the ground. An updated OS, Windows Phone 7.5 Mango should however rejuvenate interest, as should a new array of handsets. HTC are the first off the mark with two shiny new devices. The first of these Taiwanese Mango delights comes in the form of the HTC Radar, a 3.8” device with a WVGA S-LCD display ...
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1. totik (unregistered)
heh..wheres the video review?
2. - (unregistered)
I agree with the point about the limited app support, but immature OS? That's not really true is it? I've used iOS, Android and WP7 and I can honestly say that WP feels just as mature as the other OSes. Considering the fact that it was released much later than the other two, I'd say Microsoft has done a rather impressive job with the current version of the OS.
Social networks are deeply integrated (arguably much deeper than iOS5 or Android) and everything feels sleek and smooth and, 'just works'.
3. venkat vijay (unregistered)
Phoneareana pls chek in one year, what is the maturity of ios and andriod?
4. rayjones09 (Posts: 149; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)
I thought it would at least get an 8. I was impressed by the pics and vid.
5. Joshing4fun (Posts: 960; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
So basically they're saying "it's not a bad phone, just nothing new or special". I have to agree. But maybe HTC has bigger and better plans for an upcoming windows phone? Hopefully?
6. snowgator (Posts: 3015; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
A very good review overall, although the 7.5 was a little low as compared to the positive vibe of the write up. Limited Apps has never been a con on a Blackberry, so why would it be on WP when it is adding apps at a pace that is more efficient? The Radar is a good mid-range option. Hope T-Mo gets a higher end model.
7. ME (unregistered)
WOW. Phonearena, you just killed yourself in my eyes. Why is WP7.5 immature? Because it doesn't have 2000000 of apps? Well, it has many apps, and almost every app that a lot of people use. Why do we needs trash? Android is for that. I'm so dissapointed in your review.
8. Mista Wet (unregistered)
Hello Basil K. I thought you gave a great review and I do understand everyone has a preference but I think the one thing you do need to clarify is your idea of what a "immature OS" is.
If you liked OS or not, I'd still have you clarify that statement. If you fail to do so it kinda kills the whole point of such a great review.
I patiently await your clarification.
9. TGZRyo (unregistered)
Immature OS? Doesn't sound you actually used the OS very much. Please explain what you mean if you stand by this comment.
10. senseIT (unregistered)
You've just lost another reader. While I would have agreed that Windows Phone 7 (i.e. the product launched a year ago) was indeed immature, WP7.5 (or Mango if you like) is as mature as the latest sandwiches and iProducts out there. Actually, in certain aspects I would call Mango a much more mature and polished OS than Android or iOS.
Limited app support? There are a few major apps still missing from WP, but I would say the majority of "must have" apps are available - in fact, a recent study backs me up on this saying "9 out of 10" major apps (and games) are already available on Windows Phone. The remaining 10% are sure to become available within the forseeable future.
11. lubba (Posts: 1309; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Look at the home page of this website. It should tell everyone where this author is coming from and why he chose the words he did. Now one has to think a little. PA's review of HD7 pre mango got 8.5. Here we have the HTC Radar, a 7.5 score with mango preinstalled. And he claims wp7 is immature! Author is unreliable and biased. Trust the everyday user and their take.
12. senbobaggins (Posts: 6; Member since: 22 May 2011)
PhoneArena....bad picture of the Radar, does'nt do the display any justice!!
13. ReallyImmatureOS (unregistered)
For those who thinks WP7 is mature as compared to iOS / Android, please share what make you think so?
1. WP7 People Hub is considered as 3rd party app for Facebook. There are already incidents that some friends are missing from the People hub due to Facebook new security features. But FB apps for iOS and Android will not have such issues.
2. Notifications. WP7 has the weakest notification system compared to iOS and Android. Even iOS now has a notification bar like Android. WP7 notifications are everywhere on every tiles you pinned! One will not even notice that there are updates unless he look at the tiles, ie. Facebook updates, Whatsapp messages, etc etc?
3. Crazy app list. Find the app by the app name or first letter? How in the world will someone actually remember all application names after installing? Can't the apps be grouped just like Android?
4. Tiles and tiles. Yes, the tiles concept is nice. But with the limited viewable area, tiles are simply too long and huge! The scrolling up and down looking for a particular tile is madness. Just like app list, no grouping is allowed.
5. No common control shortcuts. Android has widgets which allow turning on connectivity easily from the home screen. But for WP7, we have go tap into Settings every time we turn on connectivity. Yes, there are apps for that. Yet, those are taking big spaces on the home screen.
6. Bluetooth file transfer? Don't tell me about cloud. Not every country or every place has good internet connectivity. And it is dumb to send files via emails when the other party is just in front of you carrying an Android phone.
6. Finally, applications for WP7. Where are the decent ebook readers? Oh, we can't even store local epub files for offline reading? Whatsapp is weak as compare to other platforms, although MS claims that porting apps over from other OS is easily done?
7. Flash? HTML 5 is the way to go? Yes it is. But not now. And Flash will be here to stay until HTML 5 is mature enough. Not to mention that WP7 doesn't even have a proper Flash player out of the box!
So, tell me, how mature WP7 Mango is. Android owns WP7 anytime!
15. Axial (unregistered)
"Android owns WP7 anytime!"
Except in the UI department. I shudder whenever a high-end phone has a hiccup when simply flipping through menus, and even the Galaxy S II does this (especially with live wallpapers). You only get stuttering on WP7 from certain third-party apps, and that's not Microsoft's fault.
As for the WP7 home screen: its space is infinite, and it's no worse than having to flip through your 7 Android home screens or having to scroll through your buried list of apps. As for groups, unnecessary. Once you install enough apps, WP7 starts doing with the list what it does in the People hub. You get large alphabetical icons and all you have to do is remember the first letter of the app you want. Hit one of the letters, the grid will pop up, then jump to the appropriate letter. Bingo.
If you must have Facebook on your phone beyond what the People hub can do, buck up and go to the website. You have to sit there and wait for it to load data whether you are in an app or online.
I also don't understand your position on update notifications. The Me tile will show you responses and whatnot for Facebook/LinkedIn/etc. Messages will display a number (and a changing emote) for your new messages, and Mail will display the number of new emails. What more is necessary?
I'm not bashing Android, I'm simply pointing out some holes in your argument. Prioritize your needs and pick the appropriate OS.
24. ReallyImmatureOS (unregistered)
Yes, the tiles does tell you updates. But what if you are away? Does the lockscreen tells you what has came in while you are away? No! It will be even worse if the tiles are way below the viewable area on your screen. Do you want to keep scrolling up and down to see if there are updates or do you prefer to have a common area ie. the top notification bar like Android where you can just see that there are updates? You choose, if your preferences anyway.
For Android, I can pinch out of the home screens to tab to the particular screen I want to go. Or, I can group different home screens to divide between my work and personal apps. Can WP7 do that? Can you jump straight to the most bottom of the Start screen? NO! I do not wnat infinite space, I want efficient home screens.
16. - (unregistered)
1. I can't speak for the other users but I have NEVER encountered any of those problems. And no issues on iOS? Yeah right. Not too long ago, many users were unable to view their ENTIRE news feed on the FB app. It just showed a white space with nothing in it.
2. Sure, the other OSes have their respective 'notification centers'. But they were installed via updates. WP7 was released less than a year ago and it has brought along with it MANY features that make it on par with the other OS out there. So, I believe that an improved notifications center will be coming soon. But for now, the live tiles and notifications on the lock screen work perfectly fine. (btw, for fb notifcations, it's in the 'me' tile. it flips whenever there are new notifications)
3. It's really not that hard to find the app you want at all, maybe it's just you. I find it hard to find apps in my friends' Android devices because it's arranged all over the place and there's no shorter way to get to them except swiping and swiping. Which sucks because Android's UI is NEVER smooth like iOS and WP7.
4. Tiles and tiles? What about iOS and Android's icons and icons? Sure Androids have their widgets but they're laggy as hell. And iOS' 4x4 icons are just bloody boring. WP7 appears to be a nice mix of both.
5. Not really, there's an app for WP7 that allows you to add a 'one tap tile' on your home screen to go into the connectivity settings you'll like to change (wifi etc). And, it doesn't lag the hell out of the phone *Android*.
6. The Kindle for WP7 is a pretty good ebook app ( or so I've heard). If this minor feature is a MAJOR DEAL BREAKER for you, then, don't get WP7. Simple as that. For now, Microsoft Office is doing a good job fufilling my reading craves.
7. Seriously, the flash debate again? It may be vastly important for you maybe, but many other users can live without flash on their phones as many websites that once required flash are switching to html 5 for mobile purposes. Flash isn't really that crucial in a phone.
And if I were to say why WP7 is better than Android (for me at least) in one word, it'll be 'sleek'.
WP7 has always been smoother, cleaner and more organized than that clunky piece of software you call Android. Some of my friends who use Android, pick up my phone, use it and tell me 'omg, this is really smooth and snappy' . This goes to show that Android users don't really know what 'buttery smooth' is. And if WP7 doesn't feel mature to you, it definitely LOOKS and feels much more mature (not old) compared to iOS and Android. Android feels old. Not to mention clunky and slow.
Lastly, if you're happy with your current device, good for you. In the end, It's a matter of preference.
20. lubba (Posts: 1309; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
1. Wp7 also have FB app but now not as necessary to have because of poeple hub FB intrgration. Security features is a good. Don't want no serial killer knowing where you live.
2. Notifications are on lock screen: Emails, phone calls, what not.
also on top a notification message bar appears for a few seconds with every new message. yes notifications are on tiles. That's why they're called live tiles. On android, i don't know if one likes to look at dead widgets or stare at notification bar. Frankly on wp makes more enjoyable user experience when one can interact with live tiles than stare at dead widgets.
3. The main point of wp is to make things important to the user a priority for example social. Well thats already integrated into phone. Don't need tile for that. So on home screen one would place most important used tile.
probaly not a whole. Just place all fav tiles together. Findings tiles is actually easy. With buttery smooth scroll one can find in app screen. No different than Android.
4. scrolling is buttery smooth. Can find app in a snap. No need for multiple home screens for grouping apps. Main home screen is used most! remember live tiles, they interact with the user making for better user experience. So bigger is better for this.
5. Not sure if necessary to place connectivity on home screen for most used app. not a big deal and not a big arguement.
6. Bluetooth transfer, you have point there. My experience, never Used bluetooth. So not as important. Cloud, very useful if you have for integrated office.
7. Flash, what can I say. Dont need it. Wp has the youtube client for most of your viewing pleasure, in HD! iOs does not have flash yet it hasn't hindered its sales.
html 5 will be the future. Might ad well start now. Adobe is actually tolling some stuff out.
14. Sessanta (Posts: 6; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
I'm totally agree what 'ReallyImmatureOS' were saying..
WP 7 is good but it still has a long way to go..
Just adding, how about hardware support for WP 7?
WP 7 now only support WVGA screen res. and single core processor, which is quite pathetic for me..
Yes, Windows said that they will support higher res. and dual core processor, but when that time come, android may already support quad core processor..
WP 7 excuses that their slow hardware support caused by their mission to make a very 'smooth' OS, but as you can see, android phone like SGS II is very very buttery smooth and has the latest hardware...
WP 7 will always stay behind from android if they keep 'smoothing' their OS... LOL
17. - (unregistered)
SGS2 'very very buttery smooth' ?.
Only one thing to say: You've never experience smooth butter.
22. ReallyImmatureOS (unregistered)
I dunno about you. But my SGS 2 is really very very smooth. Lag? I just don't understand why you guys keep debating on the "smootherness" of WP7? It is smooth because it does not have much work doing on the boring phone! Android is a TRUE multitasking OS, not just putting the app to sleep. On the other hand, SGS 2 has indeed brings Android to a much higher level.
Another question is, so what if u have the smooth UI phone in the world?? It is just a small part of being having a mobile phone. Apps and how mature the OS is the most matter. Now I can't even have a proper Whatsapp with my friends. Why would someone use WP7? Give WP7 more time again? When? By the time iPhone 5 is really here, or when after Google Ice Cream Sandwich?
And if you ask me, the updates in Mango is nothing amazing at all when all those features already exist for so long on other more powerful platforms.
21. Christoph_CLS (unregistered)
I had a Galaxy S2. Suddenly i couldn' be reached until morning until i wanted to call someone. Had to reboot (again) and i hate rebooting ! Plus all those apps keep running, you need advanced task killer, etc etc or else your battery drains in half a day. All those things made me sell the thing. It is completely unorganised. And as for butterly smooth, maybe 90% of the time yes, but not 100% So now i'm going for a HTC Radar.
23. ReallyImmatureOS (unregistered)
1 advice. Send your phone for service. My Omnia 7 reboots by itself too in the middle of charging.
26. Damien_666 (Posts: 37; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)
When will you learn that HW specs can't be the solution to a better phone?
It's 'cos Android sucks that OEMs need dual core/quad core to mask Android POS!
19. Zig (unregistered)
"Immature OS with limited app support" are you stupid or is bought by google?
25. fucker (unregistered)
all android users ... F**K urself .....bye..
27. Carol123456789 (unregistered)
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