HTC One S for T-Mobile Review
0. phoneArena 18 Apr 2012, 16:04 posted on
Strangely, it’s been a while since we’ve seen a top-shelf Android powered smartphone for T-Mobile. Yeah, the carrier has been blessed with quality devices such as the Samsung Galaxy S II and HTC Amaze 4G, but they’ve been available for some time now – with nothing particularly “fresh” put out by them in the last few months. Now that spring is in full swing, the wait for something special will soon be over, as the highly anticipated HTC One S is set to shake things come April 25th...
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1. cellphonator (Posts: 298; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)
John, any news about out of contract price?
2. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Not even stock HTC earbuds? It's bad enough they took away the Beats, but now you don't even get ANY earbuds? That makes me sad. I get it was mostly just marketing, and the Beats buds aren't really that great in quality, but still.
6. Obviously (Posts: 29; Member since: 29 Feb 2012)
Agreed, atleast throw in some $2 headphones if you're going to claim to be music oriented and team up with Beats.
3. bokajay (Posts: 11; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
The off contract price is $599.99
4. kingkoopa765 (Posts: 17; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Anyone know when the black version is coming? Might stick with Amaze until then...
5. Rayzin (Posts: 83; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Nobody wants that gray/blue with neon blue color scheme. The black one looks 100 times better. And we have to wait all the way to June to get that. But I'm willing to wait, this phone is pretty exciting with the speedy 28nm S4 dual core. THE POWER! And I'm getting tired of my concave sensation 4G display. It's like my thumb can never reach the edge because of that curve.
8. dok2005 (Posts: 55; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)
the official msrp is $550 go to bestbuy and grab yours
9. Leon101 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
I love it and had till i found out.... NO BEATS AUDIO EARBUDS d-__-b or any earbuds!!! Gosh my lg optimus t is nothing compare to this and YES IT BROUGHT eardbuds!!!
10. hoevito (Posts: 8; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)
No removable storage...no removable battery...pentile display...
3 critical aspects this phone already fails at. As a Sensation 4g owner there's absolutely no sense in upgrading to this device because quite frankly I feel it's a downgrade anyway...at least my phone came with headphones...jeez...
11. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
But it has an amazingly fast processor, upgraded camera, and more vibrant display. And the pentile isn't really noticeable to the untrained eye without a magnifying glass.
13. hoevito (Posts: 8; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)
Ok, but I can just as easily get the same camera software on my sensation by installing one of the ever growing (and surprisingly stable) sense 4.0 builds directly ported from the One S and negate every single software advtange the One s might have. Granted the camera might not have as big or newfangled of a lense or the processor may be older...I still have the EXACT same sense 4.0 the One S has, and I have all the removable storage I could ever need, and can install extended batteries all day long...and my screen is *argubly* better lol...not to mention the fact I get to keep $600 in my pocket and don't have to re-up on a contract for a device that takes 2 steps forwards, but 3 steps backwards...
16. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3104; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
I have had the Galaxy Nexus since it launched. I also had the Droid 3 for a while. Comparing the normal LCD pentile display vs AMOLED pentile display is a HUGE difference. You will not notice the AMOLED one even if you try your best to look for it. Galaxy Nexus/Note owners never complain about the pentile displays or at least from what I have seen.
So check for yourself before you write it off.
22. hoevito (Posts: 8; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)
I didn't just personally write it off because of the screen, but lack of sd storage, removable battery, and only having roughly 10gb of memory available to the user out the box is what turned me off sadly...otherwise, I like the phone...but it's honestly just not worth the money or the upgrade (coming from a rooted and ROM'ed Sensation)
Btw...a pentile HD screen...yeah, you're right, those are nice nonetheless, but Qhd? I compared my phones screen (which is S-lcd/rgb) to a RAZR, and the RAZR's screen is pretty don't get me wrong...but noticebly not quite as sharp as my own due to the amoled/pentile format vs. S-lcd/rgb. I'm not a stickler by any means but it's all a matter of preference ultimately and I personally just don't see it as something to be excited over when the screen on my current phone has a (somewhat) valid argument for being better in some aspects. It's a wash :-/
18. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yes, you have the software and the option for extended battery life and memory, but my point about the hardware still stands. Some people don't need the more battery, or more memory. Granted it's still always good to have the option, they made this phone in mind of the average user. Not the power hungry user, or the memory hog, the AVERAGE consumer. And the average consumer's main priorities are speed and looks. And this phone delivers that speed and (arguably) looks better than the Sensation ever did. People love the vibrant Super Amoled screen, because its more eye candy to the user. People want faster processors, because they don't want lag like the S3 had. The One S has everything the average consumer asks for, it's pretty and fast. Don't get upset because the manufacturer didn't fit your standards, because majority rules, and not as many people cared about battery and memory as other people cared about speed and beauty.
23. hoevito (Posts: 8; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)
You are absolutely correct, the utterly average uniformed t mobile customer *may* flock to this phone in droves...but the "informed" consumer who is at least aware of his options, let alone one who may already be in possession of a phone manufactured in the last year or so...probably won't.
I could easily understand someone who has a phone that may be a couple generations behind springing for this phone, because honestly it's not bad by any means...BUT honestly HTC could've done so much better with the phone. It could've had more memory or at least removable storage because that alone is a deal breaker for many. The removable battery is very questionable because this phone better get GREAT battery life, and I'm not talking about hypothetically either just due to the processor blah blah. If it doesn't...then your stuck with it as is because aftermarket battery options won't exist. Other than that...the screen just doesn't seem cutting edge enough...I mean it's on par with the RAZR basically, which is a phone that been out for what, 6 months? Htc (and Tmobile in this case) needed to hit a homerun with this phone, and it is VERY underwhelming to me considering the competition.
By the way...my sensation with it's supposedly "laggy" S3 is buttery smooth after upgrading to ICS. I'm pretty sure that in a lot of cases with phone's packing S3's...it's not the hardware per say that makes it perform laggily, but the software (Sense, overlays, lack of optimization) and the fact that quite a few phone's packing the S3 are still on gingerbread. Give those same phones ICS and properly spec'd software and I'm sure the average user wouldn't care WHAT processor it had...it's be a seamless experience either way...
20. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
The S4 chip should get close to 40-50% more battery life than the sensation which had HORRIBLE battery life
Amoled with pentile BLOWS AWAY the sensations screen. dont get caught up on pentile or not.. you can not see the pixels. Ive had pentile for 2 years on my SGS1 and i still stop and stare at how pretty it is.
the S4 processor is WAY faster than the 1.2ghz S3 processor per clock
it has nearly double the ram for faster and more smooth operation.
you can get the software.. but you wont get the hardware. The OneS has dedicated camera HARDWARE that makes it work. The sensation is software only.
In no way other than removable storage is the sensation superior to the OneS.
Now if you are just holding out for something that appeals to you, sure.. but dont act like this is a downgrade when its far from it.
I'm skipping it too, but thats because I know something 2x as good is right around the corner.
21. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3104; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
"I'm skipping it too, but thats because I know something 2x as good is right around the corner."
YES THE IPHONE 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MORE OF THE SAME PLEASE!
jk jk SGS3 of course ;)
24. hoevito (Posts: 8; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)
I'm pretty sure that it won't get 40-50% better battery life...because my ICS packing/1900mah $10 anker battery packing sensation can last as long as I want it to depending on usage (record is 36 hrs :-)
Btw...the sensation has 768mb vs One S @ 1gb...not quite double.
Either way...the sensation with ICS is no slouch, throw in a custom kernel and it gives sensation owners like myself, let alone anyone with hardware spec'ed simliarly to anything worth a damn that came out last year no compelling reason to upgrade to this phone. Yeah, you and your OG vibrant might be due for an upgrade...but this phone at it's best is a "niche" phone. It's not targeted at everyone, but instead those new to smartphones, those who don't have much need for storage space, or those who are upgrading from something ancient. Personally, I don;'t think it'll sell well, but we'll see...
All I'm really saying is there is no really compelling reason to choose this phone over say a Motorola Droid RAZR for example...a 6 month old phone spec'ed similiarly that the One S hold no *clear* advantages over maybe except for the processor.
Compared to the Sensation tho, it's DEFINITELY not a downgrade I know...but it's also no REAL Upgrade...because for everything you may gain you lose something just as important if not more important. Removable storage and batteries are HUGE to a lot more people than just myself...the screen, that's a debatable advantage/disadvantage honestly, and the processor and camera? Yeah they're great don't get me wrong...but not worth losing expandable storage and a removable battery.
Me=patiently waiting to SGSIII :-)
27. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
the funny thing is the dual core s3 is still only slightly more powerful than the vibrant.....you ever compared a sensation to a galaxy s2? much much more powerful phone than your sensation. The One S is no different it is much more powerful than your sensation, but yes i agree with you on the subject of the expandable memory, but on the screen no qHD is plenty high enough to not be able to detect pixels unless your purposefully looking for them (why would you?) I can almost guarantee you at least 75% of normal consumers would choose the qHD amoled over the qHD s-lcd on your sensation because people are more attracted to the vibrant colors.
34. itiswhatitis (Posts: 423; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
hey i hope you answer this cuz phonearena neer answer my questions i'm planning to buy unlocked htc one s so what i wanna know is that wil i have to pay or get a different a/c to use wifi hotspot?? or i can use it without any issues since i'm from india there's no way of paying it to t mobile for internet sharing or opening an account for that ,please let me know
12. KEVlN (Posts: 83; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
The Galaxy Note gets a 7/10, The One X gets a 7.8/10 and the One S gets a 8? I don't understand PA's review process.
14. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
depends on the reviewer.... I like John V. His video Reviews are the best on PA.
29. John.V (Posts: 99; Member since: 27 May 2011)
Of course, one person's dislike might end up being a positive for another individual. In general, you have to be impartial, even if the device in question isn't something I'll be personally buying. As I've said, I question the $200 price point, but I'm sure that's not going to stop people seeing it performs well and has one killer design. Glad you like it though!
30. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I have respect for reviewers as they must try and see things with other eyes while giving their opinion about it. its hard and needs lots of time for practice.
15. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Different people. They lean towards their own preference. John is more balanced with everything, Ray is just... idk. Ray did the review for Note and One X, and alot of people think he's really against Android because of the low scores he gave them because he wasn't open minded. He judged them mostly by his own preference. John did this review, and I say its fair, he lists both good and bad things about the device, and scored it according to what the average person would want.
17. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3104; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
If I'm not correct and please feel free to correct me but I believe RAY S reviewed the Note and we all know how much he loves the iPhone and loves it's size. So it's no shock whatsoever that he would downrate it due to it not being a "one handed device". That's his view and I respect it but look at it this way. It's one of the most desired and loved devices for a reason. I don't even care about phone ratings anymore, it's always somewhat biased.
19. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4273; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Everything is biased in someway. Nothing is ever truly fair.
25. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1231; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
RORY: Whether he uses an iPhone or a Droid X; the Note is simply huge. Almost no matter what phone you are coming from is going to be significantly smaller. That's a fair con.
I checked that phone out at best buy one day and personally, idk how anyone could use that as their daily phone. I would think him unfair if he didn't list that as a con.
26. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3104; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
True but you can't have a PRO to the massive display and a CON as the device being too big. That just doesn't add up. Instead of evening it out, it will simply marked down big time because of its size. When most people either work past the size or eventually start to like it.
28. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Great product in my opinion, but if i was still on tmobile i wouldn't get it because im waiting on the s3
31. Ezzy123 (Posts: 12; Member since: 08 Mar 2011)
I have the Sensation and got it when it was the hottest thing out but I am due for an upgrade and waiting for the GSIII to come out. I don't think I'd ever get an HTC phone agin though because this is the only phone that's ever told me that I'm running low on memory and therefore I have to delete apps and free up space to sync....
NO OTHER PHONE HAS EVER DONE THIS TO ME.
32. ouraziel (Posts: 1; Member since: 22 Apr 2012)
I'm really not a fan of Android's sudden dislike of expandable memory! It wouldn't be such an issue if there was a decent backup/sync program that could back up the phone nightly. I've had a 32 GB card in my Mytouch 4g and It's over half way filled. Yes, I know there are plenty of cloud based servers, but with data caps and spotty 4g where I live it's just simpler and FAR easier to have the storage capacity that is needed. I really hope I'm not the only one with these issues. This ability to make the phone "mine" was always something that stood out in stark contrast to Apple, so to take away expandable storage as well as a sealed battery......this doesn't bode well for Android as I've come to know it.
33. going_home (Posts: 1; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Please do a dog fight between the HTC Amaze and One S.
If I were a betting person, I'd bet the Amaze isnt much slower than the One S
right now before the ICS update.
And when it gets the update I'd wager it will be just as fast, considering the specs are virtually the same.
Except the Amaze has all the good features left off the One S like removable battery, mini SD card slot, and NFC.
35. Landmarkcm (Posts: 504; Member since: 11 Aug 2009)