Google Nexus 10 vs Microsoft Surface RT
0. phoneArena 10 Dec 2012, 06:42 posted on
Attempting feverishly to make a splash in the tablet market, the Microsoft Surface RT is the poster child for Microsoft’s new tablet platform in Windows RT. No doubt there’s an uphill battle ahead of its path already, seeing that it’s a new platform and all, but more importantly, it begs the question on how well it can compete with that other poster child taking space over in Android land – the Google Nexus 10...
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14. MeoCao (unregistered)
Can there be any competition here? N10 steamrolls Surface in everything.
25. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Actually, no surprise here..
2. Mghazisohail (Posts: 23; Member since: 29 Nov 2012)
nexus 10 best for software and surface for it's hardware but i am nexus 10's side
5. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
I wonder why you say that the surface for hardware. Unless you are talking about the chassis, as all the internals are much better in the Nexus 10.
15. MeoCao (unregistered)
Surface chassis is better if you use it as desktop only. N10 is way more comfortable to hold imo.
6. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
The nexus 10 actually has better internal components. It lags less than the Surface while pushing millions of pixels more. The surface lags substantially more than the Surface.
16. MeoCao (unregistered)
I guess you read the reports from WP Central? There's no lag at all unless you use Chrome which is software problem and will be fixed. Other than that there's no lag.
31. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
If you're talking about the nexus 10, then you're right, it stutters at times, but those times are very few and far in between (meaning almost never). Lag was inaccurate of me so I apologise. If you're talking about the Surface then it's actually quite laggy according to CNET, TheVerge and even HP. I'd even think so since windows RT looks very CPU intensive and Tegra 3 might not be the best processor to work with. It could be that RT isn't optimised for that processor but I doubt it's even remotely as slick as the Google Nexus 10. Heck I'll bet it's laggier than my Note when it ran gingerbread (my Note now has jellybean, and it's definitely smoother)
39. shayan (Posts: 159; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
actually, I think nexus 10 is a more powerful device too. every article I read so far, indicates that a dual core A15 is almost twice as powerful as previous generation on the same clock speed.
considering that this exynos is 1.7 gh, and the tegra is 1.3 gh, I think Nexus 10 have the upper hand.
3. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
lmfao... I'm not even going to bother arguing about why the Surface tablet is a better choice for most consumers. pathetic
9. Plexicle (Posts: 15; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
What's actually "pathetic" here is your silly (might I add, quite inaccurate) comment. You say you won't "even bother to argue?" That's because there is no argument. The Nexus 10 is the "better choice" for most consumers just by going on platform maturity alone.
It really sounds like are just upset about your Surface and desperately trying to rationalize having a tablet that gets trumped by a less-expensive one. Good luck with that one.
30. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
And here I thought the comments section was gonna be completely full with rational people. Then I remembered, this is the internet.
20. Tones (Posts: 68; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)
Sounds like you dont have an argument to make
52. severian37 (Posts: 7; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
As a Nexus 7 owner, I can honestly say that this Nexus is a great tablet. Having said that, I've read reviews of the Surface RT, and I'd love to have one at the office for Sys Admin stuff.
The Surface is far more easily connectable to home and office Windows shares, workroups, and printers than any Android or IOS device, something this comparison completely dropped the ball on.
4. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
"it’s the Surface RT that’s sporting the more favorable hardware"???? Seriously???
Get you facts stragth please! The Exynos is not "only" clocked higher at 1.7 MHz, it also has two cortex A15 cores over the A9 on the Tegra 3. That's not to mention the GPUs.
In the most reliable benchmarks:
Nexus 10 geekbench (CPU): 2400 (and over)
Tegra 3 (T30L, the weaker model, which you found in the Surface) geekbench (CPU): 1400
Nexus 10 glbenchmark (onscreen): 3027 frames
Tegra 3 with similar resolution as surface glbenchmark onscreen: 1623 frames.
The Exynos 5 destroys the Tegra in every aspect!
7. Plexicle (Posts: 15; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
I was kind of wondering about that comment as well? That Exynos is much, much faster than the Tegra 3, both on paper and in real-life. I wonder why the author said that? Was it because he assumed that quad-core automatically made it better? The cores have really nothing to do with it. Confusing.
13. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Saddly that's what he must have been thinking, that a quad core beats any dual core, regardless of the real performance. It's a joke...
54. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
its phonearena. They dont like putting androids above anything
29. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
Exactly, I read that and quickly checked GLBbenchmarks and it's second only to the iPad, which got me confused. People should understand that dual-core doesn't necessarily trump quad-core, A15 easily crushes A9 and the Nexus 10 is proof, I mean what other processor+GPU could push that many pixels without lagging (save for the iPad). The surface certainly can't, it can't even push it's own million pixels without lagging from time to time.
8. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
nexus 10 murders the surface RT. Tegra 3 is an amazing processor but that was in 2011. Its 2012 now almost 2013 the tegra 3 ruled 2011-early 20-12 and now its showing its age ( even though it still is amazing) and its fast becoming a processor for (budget) tablets which is a good thing because that means tablets till have awesome performance at cheap levels. Now tegra 4 coming in 2014 will be amazing.
10. gaurang (Posts: 94; Member since: 16 Nov 2012)
surface rt is for casual users...wait for the pro....its gonna blow ur nexus out of this world....
18. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
True, what difference will the pro make! Another both fail....™®©
23. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
windows 8 on pc is amazing on phone.. well.. and the RT is a failure the pro will be a failure as well. Hopefully they change marketing and market the pro as a tablet/laptop hybrid and see if they can make money then.
37. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Um, they have been, and its been very highly regarded on touchscreen devices to users who pull their head out of their rear and try it for a few days. My favorite of which is the Asus TaiChi, followed by the Dell convertible tablet, Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga, and a number of AIO desktops. The main ones running RT are the VivoTab, ATIV SmartTab, and Surface RT
56. Just_a_boy (Posts: 183; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
the surface pro is a desktop in a tablet shape, core i5 X86 archtecture, Nvidia Graphics, comparing to an ARM-based tablet N10 is a piece of cr@p, your hate for everything that is not made by Google is making you get blind.
24. tedkord (Posts: 11888; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Unfortunately, MS has already admitted the pro battery will last about half as long as the RT. Power users will need to stay near an outlet.
11. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
In all honesty, the Surface RT would've been a great tablet if it were released to compete with Honeycomb and the iPad 2 a few years ago. It's way too late and everyone else (except for apple) improved their OSes and optimized it for tablets. Can't say the same for the Surface Pro, that's a beast of a tablet.