GSM Cameraphone Comparison Q4 2008
If you go through the sample pictures in our many reviews, you’ll notice that the quality of the cameras has improved significantly in the past few years. At first, the images were good only for MMS or to add to a contact. Later, we were happy to have pictures with decent web quality, and today the cameraphones are trying to replace the regular pocket cameras. The video quality follows a similar arc through the years: from MMS to YouTube, and now we are on the verge of big screen quality videos. Here are some examples of the highest possible quality at present:
Samsung Pixon: Video 1 | Video 2
Samsung INNOV8: Video 1 | Video 2
LG Renoir: Video 1 | Video 2
Sony Ericsson C905 Video 1 | Video 2
Nokia N82 Video 1 | Video 2
*note: Video 1 is taken outdoors and represent the real image quality; Video 2 is capturing a screen, and should be used only for reference about the sound quality.
*Due to codecs support, you may not be able to play the files.
With the exception of the QVGA shooting C905, video quality was good on all of the phones. Unfortunately, none of the models records quality sound and if you are “filming” a conversation it is likely that it will not be audible upon playback.
Although the most important element of the camera is the image quality, the options and the ease of control matter as well. As we’ve previously mentioned, the phones have similar camera options and the ways those are activated is what interests us.
Despite its ugliness, the Pixon’s interface is the best; it is very well optimized, and thanks to the touchscreen the various features are activated easily. The C905 comes in second, which we think offers one of the best camera interfaces for a phone with no touch screen. It allows easy selection of the options and the color images in the scenes give it a fresh look. The INNOV8 has monochrome icons, but the shortcut lane also provides a relatively fast access to the options, so we like it too. Nokia’s N82 is equipped with the standard N-series camera software, which doesn’t wow us but isn’t that bad either. The Renoir’s interface is a disappointment due not only to its unattractiveness, but it is not user-friendly either.
Camera speed is also an important factor to consider. If the phone is going to replace your pocket camera then it must be able to not only start up quickly, but also focus and save quickly so that you can capture spontaneous moments.
|Samsung Pixon||2.5 sec||2 sec||1 sec|
|Samsung INNOV8||2.5 sec||2 sec||4 sec|
|LG Renoir||2 sec||1 sec||5 sec|
|Sony Ericsson C905||2 sec||2 sec||5.5 sec|
|Nokia N82||3 sec||2 sec||4 sec|
The Pixon was the most impressive in this test; even though it didn’t start or focus the fastest, its save time was so far ahead of everyone else that you can snap three shots in ten seconds when some of the other models wouldn’t even be able to get off two.
More doesn’t always mean better. Like we saw on the point and shoot front, the new generation of cameraphones have entered into the megapixels war phase. They are equipped with more options than before, but the image quality isn't better. None of them is able to make quality pictures in all situations. The ones that are good outdoors have poor flashes and vice versa, the one that has a powerful flash (the C905) has mediocre quality during the day. We can’t recommend any of these 8MP shooters based on their camera alone, and the 5MP N82, our winner nine months ago, can still hang with the best of them.
However, all phones in this comparison are decent devices as a whole. We like all of them and suggest you to check their specifications and read their in-depth reviews and decide if they are good for you. In this comparison, we’ve included plenty of photos in lots of situations, so they should help you to decide if these phones meet your criteria for quality photos.
LG renior is the best among them all except it has a weak flash.
right, if its only has the N82 flash it would be Perfect camera phone :)
they use old software for C905
4. Magiclink (unregistered)
Sorry i'm french! But i'm not agree with you! Press the first icon in the upper right on Renoir, registration takes a second better than the Pixon try!
It would be nice if you rated the best of the bunch based on JUST the camera. I mean it is a cameraphone comparison after all.
It’s not a fair comparison, with C905 there is the old firmware, with Renoir you have posted the worst blurry night pic (look at the same pic in your Renoir’s review: http://www.phonearena.com/html
s/image.php?m=Reviews.Images&fSamples&title=LG Renoir Review - Camera, Multimedia and Software ) and flash pic with iso 100!!! Nobody will trust you, you must learn from gsmarena... =name&id=42120&caption=Outdoor
11. Igor Efremenko (unregistered)
So what are you doing on this site? Go to gsmarena or try to be polite.
LG renoir is the best and your site is full of LG hater especially that Russian guy on youtube :P you should really learn from gsmarena
7. Ethan (unregistered)
PA is so bias against LG... it's obvious Renoir is the best in this comparison! Pixon has much less detail and pictures are blurry in comparison.
This is what they say The Renoir’s image is the sharpest and to most people it seems to have a better detai
8. NightBlade (unregistered)
Hello?? You're using C905 with an old firmware!
Audio and video in kc910 is out of sync.see video2 of Renoir.It's very bad.
12. Igor Efremenko (unregistered)
I don't believe Renoir has such weak flash. I guess it's necessary to choose the right shooting mode. E.g. if you shoot with SE k810 in auto mode with flash almost all pictures are VERY dark. When you select Night Portrait everything is super!
13. A_J (unregistered)
For me its between the innov8 and the C905, the innov8 is huge, but it has everything i want. The C905 looks better (is smaller) but lacks some essentials. I have an N95 now, and symbian os on it is not the greatest, I've been very bored with it and its not thorough enough. What should I get? No touch screens for me, don't like the whole sensativity factor. Bulky Symbian innov8 or sleek lacking function C905?
14. Vaan (unregistered)
INNOV* isn't bulky if you compare it with the C905 it's just longer that's all and the build quality is better in the INNOV8.
Picture saving time will be greatly improved(shortened) if you use external memory.
The best is Renoir but phonearena.com just loves Samsung more!!!
pixel_grand_shootout-review-296.phpThe winner is: LG Renoir!
ohhh PA... u ar a big double tongued, u worked very good about LG (for make it bad). however whatever u do or say, evryone see REOIR is the best. i agree the friends, PA... u must learn from GSMARENA
well said.. thumbs up you must learn from GSMarena :P
LG Renoir FTW!!!
Now it’s available gsmarena’ s comparison, the FACTS are VERY DIFFERENT...you are sooooo comics phonearena! Cheers!
afterhave a look all the other sites' comparisons we can say that easily; the winner is LG RENOIR...
24. optional (unregistered)
funny how different sites post different opinons, statistics and facts on the same phones. anyone suspicious?
25. fufu united ninja all stars (unregistered)
i'm damn impressed v N82 performance ....
26. razor callahn (unregistered)
what ever u all saying 'bout the using old software,not using right mode and so on,i don't think they r so stupid to become unfair!i really interest for c905 and renoir,nice phone,better than the n82 pattern,just a candy bar,so simple and ugly,but amazingly n suprisingly,the n82 can still standing in 8mp phone image quality!!i think the carl-zeiss lens doing great job!5mp with carl-zeiss can standing with them,so what if 8mp??isn't that very powerful camera phone??i can't wait for nokia nseries 8mp!!
27. gansan yakamura (unregistered)
dont believe them a word, they always try to make nokia look better, probably somebody works for them. I think overall Renoir offers the best package and its the cheapest too from what i read in several tests.
@ gsmarena the Pixon is the worst but this site gave it an award winner ..BS you guys must learn from gsmarena
I have N82 and I really wanted to buy INNOV8. But after reading these reviews here and in GSM Arena , I was disappointed and changed my mind. I think the only problem with INNOV8 is its LED flash which is a great deal for me.
30. Manikandan (unregistered)
I own a N82 which is good in camera but still really LG Renoir pulled out a great camera phone among the other 8 mega pixel phones and other camera phones...great work by LG
Oh, N82 is better?? never... N82 have high compression in photos.. n82 photo files: 500kb 700kb, c905 photo files: 1.8 Mb 2.5 mb ... INNOV8 photo files: 1.4 Mb 1.8 Mb largue files = beter quality.
34. Whitecarnage (Posts: 12; Member since: 22 Mar 2009)
Shut up! Are you even aware that N82 IS A "5 MEGAPIXEL CAMERAPHONE" ??? You really sound ridiculous. Both C905 and Innov8 are 8 MEGAPIXEL CAMERAPHONES hence the photographs taken from their respective 8 mp cams have larger file sizes than the ones taken from a 5 mp cam.
After reading this review and after seeing that you used a low ISO level for LG, I have to say that 1) you either don't understand from mobile phones and you don't know how to adjust setting for them, which is bad because you are a mobile phone website; or 2) you used those settings intentionally, which is worse because it means that you are unfair and untrustable. I hope it is the first one.
33. Andrewtst (Posts: 203; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
After testing the LG Renoir and Samsung Pixon, I choose Samsung Pixon, samsung pixon produce better color and clarity and respond faster compared with LG Renoir. GSMArena is updates the samsung pixon camera review, it seems the final device produce better and wins the most. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsun
g_m8800_pixon-review-294p6.phpLatest notes mention by GSMArena about Samsung Pixon: "Update 05 Dec: These comparative photos once again confirm our initial observations. The Samsung M8800 Pixon has very good contrast levels and together with the INNOV8 much better color accuracy than the LC KC910 Renoir. Furthermore both Samsung handsets have none of the excessive sharpening artifacts that are easily visible on the LG KC910 Renoir photos. On the negative side the amount of detail captured by the Pixon is still lower than those of the competitors but the gap ain't that big. The noise levels have been so drastically improved so that they are now the best of the lot. We do suppose that a more aggressive noise-reduction algorithm is the reason for the somewhat less detail (and less noise of course)." Test for yourself is the best way to choose a correct device that best suite you. :-)