GSM Cameraphone Comparison Q4 2008
Although these are the best conditions for picture snapping, this test is one of the most important as well because people are most likely to take photos during the day. There are a few things that can go wrong but at least the colors should be real, the object(s) being photographed should be well-exposed (not too bright or too dark) and the fine detail has to be visible. Almost all pictures look good in small size but once you see the original you don’t see the person in the distance but a color patch instead.
Frankly, we are not impressed from the results of any of the models tested. They are not bad, but we expected a considerable improvement in contrast to the previous generation because the resolution has increased by more than 50%. Thanks to that, the detail level is higher (clearly seen in full screen mode), but is still a few steps behind the pocket camera with the same resolution. In this aspect, all four 8-megapixel phones performed similarly. Comparing the models head to head the differences are very small and should not be taken under consideration when buying one of the four. The Renoir’s image is the sharpest and to most people it seems to have a better detail, but sometimes this could have a negative effect; a sharp image cannot be softened in contrast to a soft one, which can be edited.
The color reproduction is very different in all phones. We think that is more important, because even if you are looking at the pictures from one model only, it is clearly noticeable if they are not good in this aspect. In addition, the precise detail level cannot be seen if the image is viewed in smaller size, but the unrealistic colors remain a drawback. This can be corrected to some extent by a software enhancement of course, but we don’t think someone will be willing to retouch every picture in its phone. Our favorite is the Samsung INNOV8, which is best in recreating the colors although, but even still they are too saturated. Despite not corresponding to the real colors, most of the time this is eye-candy. Surprisingly, the Nokia N82 ends up in second place. Although it has its drawbacks, the winner of the 5-megapixel comparison is ahead of most of the new models. Then come the Pixon and Renoir, both with an affinity to yellow (better expressed in the LG), followed by the C905 because of its “white filter”, which reduces the color saturation and contrast.
LG renior is the best among them all except it has a weak flash.
right, if its only has the N82 flash it would be Perfect camera phone :)
they use old software for C905
4. Magiclink (unregistered)
Sorry i'm french! But i'm not agree with you! Press the first icon in the upper right on Renoir, registration takes a second better than the Pixon try!
It would be nice if you rated the best of the bunch based on JUST the camera. I mean it is a cameraphone comparison after all.
It’s not a fair comparison, with C905 there is the old firmware, with Renoir you have posted the worst blurry night pic (look at the same pic in your Renoir’s review: http://www.phonearena.com/html
s/image.php?m=Reviews.Images&fSamples&title=LG Renoir Review - Camera, Multimedia and Software ) and flash pic with iso 100!!! Nobody will trust you, you must learn from gsmarena... =name&id=42120&caption=Outdoor
11. Igor Efremenko (unregistered)
So what are you doing on this site? Go to gsmarena or try to be polite.
LG renoir is the best and your site is full of LG hater especially that Russian guy on youtube :P you should really learn from gsmarena
7. Ethan (unregistered)
PA is so bias against LG... it's obvious Renoir is the best in this comparison! Pixon has much less detail and pictures are blurry in comparison.
This is what they say The Renoir’s image is the sharpest and to most people it seems to have a better detai
8. NightBlade (unregistered)
Hello?? You're using C905 with an old firmware!
Audio and video in kc910 is out of sync.see video2 of Renoir.It's very bad.
12. Igor Efremenko (unregistered)
I don't believe Renoir has such weak flash. I guess it's necessary to choose the right shooting mode. E.g. if you shoot with SE k810 in auto mode with flash almost all pictures are VERY dark. When you select Night Portrait everything is super!
13. A_J (unregistered)
For me its between the innov8 and the C905, the innov8 is huge, but it has everything i want. The C905 looks better (is smaller) but lacks some essentials. I have an N95 now, and symbian os on it is not the greatest, I've been very bored with it and its not thorough enough. What should I get? No touch screens for me, don't like the whole sensativity factor. Bulky Symbian innov8 or sleek lacking function C905?
14. Vaan (unregistered)
INNOV* isn't bulky if you compare it with the C905 it's just longer that's all and the build quality is better in the INNOV8.
Picture saving time will be greatly improved(shortened) if you use external memory.
The best is Renoir but phonearena.com just loves Samsung more!!!
pixel_grand_shootout-review-296.phpThe winner is: LG Renoir!
ohhh PA... u ar a big double tongued, u worked very good about LG (for make it bad). however whatever u do or say, evryone see REOIR is the best. i agree the friends, PA... u must learn from GSMARENA
well said.. thumbs up you must learn from GSMarena :P
LG Renoir FTW!!!
Now it’s available gsmarena’ s comparison, the FACTS are VERY DIFFERENT...you are sooooo comics phonearena! Cheers!
afterhave a look all the other sites' comparisons we can say that easily; the winner is LG RENOIR...
24. optional (unregistered)
funny how different sites post different opinons, statistics and facts on the same phones. anyone suspicious?
25. fufu united ninja all stars (unregistered)
i'm damn impressed v N82 performance ....
26. razor callahn (unregistered)
what ever u all saying 'bout the using old software,not using right mode and so on,i don't think they r so stupid to become unfair!i really interest for c905 and renoir,nice phone,better than the n82 pattern,just a candy bar,so simple and ugly,but amazingly n suprisingly,the n82 can still standing in 8mp phone image quality!!i think the carl-zeiss lens doing great job!5mp with carl-zeiss can standing with them,so what if 8mp??isn't that very powerful camera phone??i can't wait for nokia nseries 8mp!!
27. gansan yakamura (unregistered)
dont believe them a word, they always try to make nokia look better, probably somebody works for them. I think overall Renoir offers the best package and its the cheapest too from what i read in several tests.
@ gsmarena the Pixon is the worst but this site gave it an award winner ..BS you guys must learn from gsmarena
I have N82 and I really wanted to buy INNOV8. But after reading these reviews here and in GSM Arena , I was disappointed and changed my mind. I think the only problem with INNOV8 is its LED flash which is a great deal for me.
30. Manikandan (unregistered)
I own a N82 which is good in camera but still really LG Renoir pulled out a great camera phone among the other 8 mega pixel phones and other camera phones...great work by LG
Oh, N82 is better?? never... N82 have high compression in photos.. n82 photo files: 500kb 700kb, c905 photo files: 1.8 Mb 2.5 mb ... INNOV8 photo files: 1.4 Mb 1.8 Mb largue files = beter quality.
34. Whitecarnage (Posts: 12; Member since: 22 Mar 2009)
Shut up! Are you even aware that N82 IS A "5 MEGAPIXEL CAMERAPHONE" ??? You really sound ridiculous. Both C905 and Innov8 are 8 MEGAPIXEL CAMERAPHONES hence the photographs taken from their respective 8 mp cams have larger file sizes than the ones taken from a 5 mp cam.
After reading this review and after seeing that you used a low ISO level for LG, I have to say that 1) you either don't understand from mobile phones and you don't know how to adjust setting for them, which is bad because you are a mobile phone website; or 2) you used those settings intentionally, which is worse because it means that you are unfair and untrustable. I hope it is the first one.
33. Andrewtst (Posts: 238; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
After testing the LG Renoir and Samsung Pixon, I choose Samsung Pixon, samsung pixon produce better color and clarity and respond faster compared with LG Renoir. GSMArena is updates the samsung pixon camera review, it seems the final device produce better and wins the most. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsun
g_m8800_pixon-review-294p6.phpLatest notes mention by GSMArena about Samsung Pixon: "Update 05 Dec: These comparative photos once again confirm our initial observations. The Samsung M8800 Pixon has very good contrast levels and together with the INNOV8 much better color accuracy than the LC KC910 Renoir. Furthermore both Samsung handsets have none of the excessive sharpening artifacts that are easily visible on the LG KC910 Renoir photos. On the negative side the amount of detail captured by the Pixon is still lower than those of the competitors but the gap ain't that big. The noise levels have been so drastically improved so that they are now the best of the lot. We do suppose that a more aggressive noise-reduction algorithm is the reason for the somewhat less detail (and less noise of course)." Test for yourself is the best way to choose a correct device that best suite you. :-)