Camera Comparison: Nokia Lumia 1020 vs Galaxy S4, iPhone 5, Lumia 925, One
0. phoneArena 27 Jul 2013, 11:13 posted on
Ever since the announcement of the Nokia Lumia 1020, there's been little doubt that it'll be the smartphone to claim the prestigious title of “Best Cameraphone”. However, we can never be sure of something until we've seen it with our own eyes. That's why we're pitting the ambitious Lumia 1020 against the hottest smartphones out there. It's here that the 1020 has to face the Galaxy S4, iPhone 5, Lumia 925 and the One. Fearsome opponents, right? Well, if the Lumia 1020 is man enough, it'll surely be able to trump them with its chubby 41MP PureView camera. Let's hit those camera shutters and see what happens...
This is a discussion for a review. To read the whole review, click here
85. fabbriche (Posts: 12; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)
The Lumia 1020 design is based on the award-winning design of the Lumia 920/N9. Go search the handful of design awards it won. If anything, it's the most beautiful phone right now. I'm pretty sure you haven't seen let alone used a Lumia in person. Try one and you'll be blown away. Specs aren't everything. You have to use the device before you can make a valid comment.
99. mattmasi303 (Posts: 14; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)
Its not that great looking of a phone, and the huge camera on the back, dosn't help lol
208. user996 (Posts: 146; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
it has lag i saw it with my own eyes. when i tap on settings icon it froze. LoL exynos 5 octa frozen
231. yann (Posts: 39; Member since: 15 Jul 2010)
s4 don't have a lag?
Did you ever touch s4? Because i have it since two months and i also have note II. Both phones are sh*t because of the OS. It's so hungry for resources... Quad core, 2GB RAM etc.... and it still laging or blocking from time to time - for examle somethimes i can't pick up a call...
Do you use your phone for games? Then buy PSP or something else or keep your crappy Android device that can't close any app... even worst: it's open a lot without you to know or want...
Keep playng games and leave Windows phone for Pros.
233. CyberAngel (Posts: 34; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
I have over 250 apps in less than a month and
it - does - not - lag
I can close apps from a running apps list or use an app
You have loaded into your S4 a buggy lagging app
since I can always answer a call
I don't play games
I also have the Lumia 920 (MS Office support)
35. tech2 (Posts: 1121; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Their hardware is no where near better than S4 except camera. Its same hardware from Lumia 920 with increase in 1GB RAM. Someone forgot to tell Nokia it is 2013 !
The fact is if anyone has the camera NOT on their top list they wouldn't bother with this phone. It has a measley 2000mah non removable battery, no Micro SD slot, no full HD, such thick bezels, subpar ecosystem & OS.
and Although it has a better camera it is not earth shatteringly better than GS4 or even iphone 5. It still produces oversaturated (unreal) colours. Compare them to Panasonic DSLR and you'll know what I'm talking about.
All that for $300 on contract. -.-
56. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
in your eyes, better hardware means quad core. not in my case though.
"Although it has a better camera it is not earth shatteringly better than GS4 or even iphone 5"
it actually is that better than s4/iphone 5 because it captures around three times the details of s4, and that is a HUGE difference.
"Compare them to Panasonic DSLR and you'll know what I'm talking about."
now, why in the name of god would you compare a phone's camera to a dslr? did you completely miss the point? 1020 will obviously lose to a dslr. thats like going to your neighbors and saying
"huh, you idiots bought a cat? compare it to the tiger i saw in the zoo yesterday and you'll know what i'm talking about"
60. papss (Posts: 2871; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
You lost me with Panasonic.. They make crap all the way around dude..why not compare a s4 with a laptop in total quality why you are at it? Oh that's right you have your google glasses on keeping you from seeing the whole picture.
77. sorcio46 (Posts: 392; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
You nailed it, and they want to sell it here for 699€ (about 1000$)... Such an epic fail incoming considering that the Lumia 920 with the same HW (camera excluded OFC) is sold at 399€ or less.
And there is the Nexus 4 here @ 309€ that owns both of them in everything camera excluded.
86. fabbriche (Posts: 12; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)
And someone forget to tell you that this is Windows Phone 8 that we're talking about which is a lightweight OS that doesn't need octacore processor to power an extremely resource-hog Java-based OS, that is Android.
88. SleepingOz (Posts: 2374; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Half-baked "lightweight OS" right, with a lot of limitations and restrictions, lack of vital features, no true multitasking etc..
212. Fade. (Posts: 5; Member since: 27 May 2013)
Actually Windows phone 8 hast he option to run the so called true multitasking. It can do multitasking in 2 ways. The way all manufacturers want it to(the way it is now) and the full way. Yes the manufacturers make the choice between the 2 and they always pick the one which takes less resourse to make the os run better.
197. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
someone forgot to tell you that building a good, reliable and smooth experience doesn't require android-like specification. Can't you get over it?
200. steelicon (Posts: 305; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
Probably all they need is to strip down every useful feature in Android and just leave behind the very basic core components, ultimately gimping the Operating System to unusability.
This is what they did to Windows 8 from Windows 7 - gimp the Operating System for perceived "smoothness" and "fast boot times" while removing the useful power features and creating a single Metro UI experience over all platforms. Apeing OSX and iOS. Instead of making WinRT and WP smarter, they DUMBED DOWN X86 instead.
Great work, S. Ballmer & Co.!!!
202. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
and what google did? added some extra features just to consume more and more power with no visible reason?
215. zhiae (Posts: 137; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
nokia phone is based on india and latin america
they said that agent
66. haseebzahid (Posts: 1763; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
laike what does your android tells you whaen to go for piss as well :O
121. -box- (Posts: 3536; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
ainsquid, how often do you use orientation lock, and what for? Windows Phone knows when you're playing a video, movie, or game that requires landscape view, and automatically switches to it, and the user can opt for the "bottom" to be the left or right side by turning it, as has been the norm for years on it and other platforms. The only time I could imagine it being useful is if doing something while laying on one's side and holding the phone in a different orientation but even then propping the phone up or using a case with a stand would resolve most of those situations.
133. steelicon (Posts: 305; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
You must be comfortable in your self-inflicted prison. An isolation booth in an insane asylum would fit you perfectly.
222. CyberAngel (Posts: 34; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
I typically lie on my left side
I use the orientation lock on my S4
I only wish my 920 would have it
Waiting for the Amber + Pro Camera....
76. sorcio46 (Posts: 392; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
"It can do everything android devices do"
Can you use a different launcher, use icons and widgets or even a wallpaper?
WP can't do even 1/3 of what Android can do
87. fabbriche (Posts: 12; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)
This is a professional OS. Customizing the OS like what you do on Android make it look cheap and amateur. That's why Microsoft and Apple don't allow their OSes, both desktop and mobile, be customized.
98. mattmasi303 (Posts: 14; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)
Um FYI you can change the colors of the tiles and background, so if I make Pink tiles and a white background , thats professional? please
112. sorcio46 (Posts: 392; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
Professional OS WAS Windows mobile not these Tiles for the bathroom...
140. iushnt (Posts: 376; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
Your comment made me laugh. Windows desktop operating system is very much customizable.. And premium things are customizable but cheap things aren't. Limousines, Rolls Royce, Bentley are much customizable compared to hyundai and Toyota..
175. steelicon (Posts: 305; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
iushnt : OK wake us up when the full x86 Microsoft Windows 7 finally makes the jump from desktop to mobile. Sure.
147. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Please go away you Nokiawp8 fanboys can't never win with Fandroids androids Samsung HDTVs Sony.
223. CyberAngel (Posts: 34; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
Every Live Tile *is* a widget
and that's natively available everywhere
No Android phone can beat THAT
You have only limited amount of widgets
80. SleepingOz (Posts: 2374; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Nice one, dude! LMAO!
Now, come back when you'll be able to turn off auto-rotation on your WP. xD
95. mattmasi303 (Posts: 14; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)
LOL it does everything an android can do? How about set a wallpaper? Post something on instagram... lol Use that huge amazing 1080p screen.. oh wait.
126. Damo579 (Posts: 104; Member since: 18 May 2013)
We can post to instagram and most people can't see the difference between 720 and 1080p...... Wp is a personal OS with some customization.
141. iushnt (Posts: 376; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
So basically you mean wp are for those people who can't see the difference between superior and inferior products so they choose the inferior (wp) one
224. CyberAngel (Posts: 34; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
I can see the difference on a Full HDTV using miracast
You don't have THAT on any WP8 phone
nor 720 would would work anyway
150. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Ahahaha off topic can't support and back up his fanboys so you call others nob. Off topic go away please.
Losers jealous raged inpatient fanboys
Please go buy 3million lumias to support Living dead Nokia it will really help the dieing company...
17. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
4mp is just too small, even with 2 micrometer. 1020 takes 5mp photos with over 4 micrometer pixel size (virtual, ofcourse).
4. alchemyduelist (Posts: 17; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
I don't know why you excluded the Xperia Z. It isn't the most popular smartphone around, but with the improved camera after 4.2.2 update, it definitely deserves a chance to prove itself.
7. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Sony put a small sensor in Z and reduced pixel size so as to increase megapixels. The end result is not as good as S4 or even iPhone 5.
90. fabbriche (Posts: 12; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)
Xperia Z has the worst camera among all current popular smartphones.
142. iushnt (Posts: 376; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
But if xperia z was included here, I think it would have smoked HTC one for the last place.
14. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
A little note to PA:
Now that Nokia has finally made a mainstream phone with 41mp camera, shouldnt the scale be adjusted? For example 1020 is the best in capturing details and it gets 10, so shouldnt S4 get around 3 or 4 (1020 captures three times the detail of S4 (38mp vs 13mp)) because even though S4's photos are perfectly fine on their own, they just can't compete with those of 1020?
Isn't that the meaning of the word "comparison"?
18. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 593; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
It appears PhoneArena only does that kind of comparison to the HTC One and the Lumia 925 apparently. Worst PhoneArena doesn't even say why the low scores were atributted.
21. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Exactly, If S4 gets 8 in detail even compared to 1020, then they are taking the meaning out of the word comparison. Before 1020, an 8 would have been fine because 808 wasnt a mainstream phone and compared to other phones, S4 is pretty good. Now it just doesnt make sense.
24. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 593; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Check this one out.
I wonder why the HTC photos aren't as "crappy" as the ones that were taken by Ray S. The One can hold its own as far as detail is not concerned but this "comparison" makes it look like the camera isn't worth anything. And the Lumia 925 pictures i have seen are also very good looking yet it gets a low score here as well.
30. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3509; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
"Note: We're using the Panasonic Lumix GH2 camera for reference."
It's right below the first paragraph of the article.
They're comparing all the phones to their own camera, not the 1020 to every other phone.
38. tech2 (Posts: 1121; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
A good camera is not about 'megapixels'.
By your logic of 'so shouldnt S4 get around 3 or 4 (1020 captures three times the detail of S4 (38mp vs 13mp)' the websites don't even need to host such a comparison. Just copy the megapixels into the box and let the computer compute the score, right? !
Your jealousy towards S4 just goes to prove that its a better phone coz you don't want Lumia 1020 to score better, you just want S4 to score bad ....smh
42. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Megapixels do mean better quality if the corresponding phone also has a bigger sensor to go along with it. So if youre comparing S4 and 1020, you can either compare by sensor size or by megapixel number, it'll mean the same thing. If 1020 had the same sensor size as the S4, then what youre saying wouldhv made sense, but since 1020 has a much bigger sensor, it's fine to compare by megapixel numbers.
54. -box- (Posts: 3536; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Spit on. If megapixels were everything, the HTC Titan II with its SIXTEEN megapixel camera would have beaten the Nokia N8 (which is still a champ) and be unbeaten phone-wise by everything but the 808 PureView and Lumia 1020.
59. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
did you even bother reading my comment? titan 2 had a small sensor and a big megapixel count, which is stupid.
1020 and 808, on the other hand have big sensors, in which case, the megapixels actually mean something other than just a number. get it now?
130. -box- (Posts: 3536; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
The reply should have said "Spot on", not "spit", which is a term of agreement; I was adding an example of how megapixels aren't everything to further illustrate our point. The Titan II is a great example of how cutting-edge specs (screen size and camera megapixels and such) do not always make a great phone.
125. -box- (Posts: 3536; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Or leave the scale as-is, and open up the top-end. 925 and S4 would get a 9, 1020 would get like. 13 or so.
16. sergiobr (Posts: 269; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
LOL !!! I continue with my minimum pocket camera sONY dsc-tx66. Much better !!! S4 has better Software and second place. NO REASON to buy this thing ! Look what the pro photographers are saying athttp://connect.dpreview.com/po
st/1305711237/lumia-1020?news... "The noise is horrible, even with the noise reduction in those "low light" shots. Outdoors in bright light it's not terrible, looks about the same as the iPhone5, but compared to a real camera, dslr or mirrorless these are abysmal." ... "Absolutely horrible." ... "The point is to use it as a great 5MP camera which surpasses everything else in smartphone territory (except the Nokia 808). I agree that the full sized images don't look that good, but downsampled to 5MP, they are excellent."
28. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
"but downsampled to 5MP, they are excellent"
"which surpasses everything else in smartphone territory (except the Nokia 808)"
well, that was the point ALL ALONG. Did you really think 1020 was meant to compete with frigging dslr's??? NO! it was meant to be the best SMARTPHONE camera, not the best camera in world.
29. sergiobr (Posts: 269; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
No reason to spend my money. I expected something more from 1020. As I told before ... I´ll buy the S4 and keep my tiny sony allways with me.
44. raunak (Posts: 479; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
probably you'll get what you want after gdr3. anyways, your choice.
63. papss (Posts: 2871; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Good luck with that cheeseball creaky phone that lags all over due to the bloatware that SS up in it. Also you may want to wait until the S800 version hits as they may finally get rid of the lag by adding even more processing power.
103. Oxygen (Posts: 77; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I have the chance to play with my friend's S4 octa version and to compare it with my HTC One. I have to say that it's rather smooth. Sometimes there's some minor fps drops when using TW launcher but no big deal really. Most people use a third party launcher anyway. In term of gaming performance, the S4 in on par of my HTC One, it even loads some heavy games faster. Based on the samples, its camera is definitely on par with the Lumia 1020, which is quite a surprise.
Add the monstrous performance it's capable of, more features, better specs, real time multitasking and so on, it's certainly a better samrtphone than the lumia 1020 and by far.