Apple iPad Air vs Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition
0. phoneArena 16 Nov 2013, 04:22 posted on
The iPad Air, which only recently became available, has set the standard even higher in terms of design. With its thin side bezels and super-light weight, Apple's full-sized tablet is more alluring than ever. However, what it'll go up against this time is the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition – arguably Samsung's best Galaxy tablet, which hopes to attract consumers with its S Pen and productivity-focused features. Let the fight begin!...
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1. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
To choose between these two great tabs is really difficult.
Definitely the best tabs so far.
50. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Costco is giving $100 off the Samsung 10.1 and other Samsung tablets as well.
In fact, Costco has been discounting Samsung tablets for a long time. I understand Samsung wants people to believe their tablets are worth the MSRP -- but just try to sell them, and you will see these Samsung tablets just don't hold their value.
Think about it -- if brand new Samsung tablets are being discounted at the getgo, it's a strong signal you've just wasted your money. A $100 discount off the 10.1 is not an insignificant amount.
70. n.d.p (Posts: 4; Member since: 03 Dec 2013)
You buy tools to use them not to sell them. Or? Is it more like clothes for you?
79. SOUPCAN (Posts: 5; Member since: 28 Dec 2013)
Thats $100 off of the 2013 Galaxy Tab 3 not the 2014 model being reveiwed above you moron. Thanks for the stupid argument. Its called pricing the old models to move, similiar to clearance. Nice try though....
3. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
There is a very good reason going for Samsung :
You will get it for FREE if you purchase a TV (or the upcoming GS5)
4. dratomic (Posts: 483; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)
windows tablet (no rt) > every android tab >> any ios device
in my opinion.
I love freedom
8. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
Of course you do.
You may also respect others' freedom transferring your personal data to their sites.
21. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Especially Dell Venue 11 or 8 Pro. The greatest.
But for Pen-functionality, concerning artists , Note line is still the best
78. dekoy316 (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
Freedom? Freedom to do what? Choose from a list of screened widgets to add to the home screen at the cost of battery life (for $5 a widget of course)? I've owned android and ios devices, and the "freedom" everybody talks about is an illusion. You are faced with the same constraints on an android device.
82. nigratruo (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Dec 2013)
So, in your book iOS not having any widgets at all is a feature? Hmm, since when does having a possibility and not having a possibility equal the same? Battery life? Oh, another good point for Android: On Apple devices, your are stuck with the standard battery. On Android, you can easily buy more of them. I got 4 for my galaxy Note and bigger ones too than standard, cost me 40 bucks extra and I can exchange them, so I have enough power for continuous use for a intercontinental trip to Europe.
No, that Android is the same dumb restrictive system than iOS, nobody that knows both will believe that.
More restrictions of course equal less brain use and easier to use for tech stupid users, I admit that. But then I am not one of these 5 braincell users ;-)
I got my widgets for free by the way, I don't know what you are doing wrong. Yes, on iOS all the apps are more expensive too, but don't assume that for Android. Question: Do you really have an Android device or are you just pretending?
7. N-fanboy (Posts: 543; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
I feel sorry for the losers who buy any of these products.
9. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
I think you prefer Nokia 2520, but as far as its a RT tablet, its not a good choice.
14. MrKoles (Posts: 368; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)
I feel sorry for you...what you say does not make any sense.
10. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
2560*1600 is 16:10, not 16:9
11. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3535; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
I can't wait for Sony's next years tablet. Even if I hate tablets though lol.
13. ThePython (Posts: 861; Member since: 08 May 2013)
Cool comparison. I couldn't find any hints of bias... let's see what the trolls will say.
16. joey_sfb (Posts: 5184; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Keeping my data in an iPad has lock me into the respective app and the Apple eco system. Data portability is an issue.
Take quite a big effort to move my ipad data out thanks to Springpad. Its a multi platform able to access thru PC Mac iPad and Android.
I basically cut and paste my way out of iOS data lock down.
17. sniper1087 (Posts: 495; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)
A lot of people mention rt lack of apps, considering that all the apps which are over 100k are optimized or the tablet, in contrast with android which Im not sure how many apps are optimized, but things that kind of impressed me on the windows tablets, rt or not is the fact that you can truly multitask, if Im in the browser and get a skype call, it will put the browser to the side of skype , so I can still browse and talk. Yes I know that the note 3 has multiwindow, but is limited to the apps supported, which is not everything out there.
20. N-fanboy (Posts: 543; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
They are both over-priced (esp the ipad).
22. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Note 10(black version) is more beautiful and comfortable to hold, than iPad Air.
For such big device , thin side bezels on portrait mode , are pain. No matter how light the device is.
24. 1113douglas (Posts: 193; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)
If your going by which tablet is faster and can do more. The note is an easy win.
26. ph00ny (Posts: 1093; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Lol at graphics bench run onscreen when one device has a significantly higher resolution
27. spo (Posts: 19; Member since: 25 Apr 2009)
I don't like Android tablets but come on already with the iPad. I feel like any tech writer that's writing a review or comparison with the iPad coming out on top is lazy. It's a cop-out. Everything that the iPad does well in these reviews is punctuated and everything that the competition does well is mentioned then glossed over with little praise. At the end of the day the iOS app store is going to beat out the competition but this isn't supposed to be a review about the "app ecosystem" it's about two competing devices.
There's never a mention in these reviews about how annoying it is to have to use iTunes for everything with the iPad. No mention about how there's no file system and sometimes no simple way to take a file off of the iPad to open on a computer or other device. At least Android devices use the simple tried and true notion of "drag and drop". Expandable memory slots are also a great way to share media between devices which are forever lacking on iOS devices.
I think it's great that the Galaxy has "dozens of settings within almost every app". Sometimes there isn't enough control in iOS. Every time I open the iOS Facebook app I get a dialogue box telling me I should turn on WIFI for better location accuracy. Same goes for when I open maps. It would be nice to have a setting to turn that off. There are tons of frustrating quirks in iOS that never get mentioned that would be totally picked apart and harped on if it was on an Android device or Windows Phone during a review.
I'm not knocking the iPad, I think it does what it does well and it's the most elegant tablet design but these writers need to be more original or just stop writing about Apple products.
36. Zimakool (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)
Best explanation that I've ever read from someone who uses IOS
53. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Your expandable memory slot argument reminds me of the Iomega Zip drives. It's the same argument when the 3.5" floppy drive was discontinued and we went to CD drives.
The unfortunate thing is technology continues to advance -- storage will be cloud based. Expandable memory devices are relics of dated technology. The reasons I can think of using physical memory devices is for archive and security.
54. Zimakool (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)
I for one appreciate having the best of both worlds. I don't care to much for cloud storage, I don't usually use it and yes you are right about Security. I like that Samsung hasn't taken that choice away from consumers.
56. spo (Posts: 19; Member since: 25 Apr 2009)
The problem I have with cloud storage is that I don't always want to have to rely on an internet connection. Mobile device manufacturers are pushing toward cloud based storage all the while mobile carriers are trying to force consumers out of their unlimited data plans. I have a real problem with paying my mobile carrier a premium to access my own data. I'd rather have larger amounts of local storage to do as I please with.
76. nigratruo (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Dec 2013)
Yeah, and as an IT expert I know that the cloud promises big, but fails to deliver:
Storing gigabytes and gigabytes costs a lot of money and upload and download from the cloud (so access) takes AGES, so is not even feasible really. And the cell plans and coverage in the US is a total joke, substandard to say the least. Europe is far better in that respect. But they do invest in fiber of course. And if you film for example in Full HD, videos become gigantically big and sync to the cloud is pretty much useless.
84. dekoy316 (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
I can download a few gigs of data in a few minutes. We're not using ancient internet here, download speeds of 6-10mb/s is pretty common place.
68. n.d.p (Posts: 4; Member since: 03 Dec 2013)
Exactly that's why chromebook replaces ipad perfectly. ;)
90. SOUPCAN (Posts: 5; Member since: 28 Dec 2013)
Exactly my point. I own the Android Tablet and I'm quite pleased with it. The lack of accessories from Samsung or aftermarket companies is the biggest drawback. The ipad has thousands...
28. poping (unregistered)
note 10.1 for me...
29. keari (Posts: 20; Member since: 02 Jul 2013)
Phonearena should no not all people prefer simplicity, i like complexity.
Of the two i'll definitely go for the galaxy tab, the ipad is devoid of many features. As i usually say the ipad is fast due to lack of features
30. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
In the hardware comparison the iPad only has up to 64GB but it can actually go up to 128GB
31. darkkjedii (Posts: 19143; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Finally got my mini 2, loving this puppy so far. 32 gig space gray/black.
33. spectrums (Posts: 127; Member since: 14 Nov 2013)
Of Course I Chose Galaxy 10.1 2014 edition, ipad air is nothing :D
35. GrapeEyes (Posts: 248; Member since: 01 Sep 2013)
21 iPad Airs are returned for every 100 sold.
iPad Air is a massive FAIL!!!
45. gamblor77 (Posts: 104; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
This is the most biased piece of trash I've ever read. Why even bother pretending to compare 2 devices when you've already made up your mind before even trying anything else? I'll admit the ipad is a very fast and well built tablet but it's also still a large ipod touch and is very limited as to what it can do. It's just a glorified app launcher and nothing more. So it's not for everyone, especially people who know how to use a computer. That being said; I swear to god half the phonearena staff are paid by Apple on the side and these guys guys are just shills for Apple. What a waste of time to read.
75. nigratruo (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Dec 2013)
Well, don't worry, the review is clear on details like configurability and possibilities. So if you want a simple device that is limited, if you have hardly any requirements, of what you want to do, if your tech IQ is lower, then the iPad is perfect for you, as you don't have to think that much. But if you are an user that likes a powerful device and be able to do a lot of stuff with it, then you will use an Android. Also, currently you are likely to buy Android if you are interested in anything else than standard fare, because Apple just does not offer them in much variety and feature sets. Take the Galaxy Note Tablet for example, the product being reviewed here: Apple has absolutely nothing comparable. Being able to use the device as a full fledged replacement for paper, having a pressure sensitive screen that you can write on and draw on, and the whole thing being very high resolution (300 DPI, that is what a Laser Printer produces), there is really no alternative. I bought the Galaxy Note initialy for this purpose: Apple had nothing that even came close. No pen, no digitizer pad and the Note had a screen double as large as any iPhone. Apple users laughed at "wow, how large is that! Totally too large!"
And now? Now everybody is doing it, and screens have never been larger.
It is a little example of how Apple is now playing catch up, instead of being the leader.
Mind you by the way, quoting the famous quote of Jobs "if they use a pen in a tablet/phone, they got it wrong".
The Galaxy Note phone and tablet don't NEED the pen for using it normally, you can use it with your fingers all right, but to take notes and do drawings and concepts, the pen rules supreme. After all, you would to want to dip your finger in ink and draw on a paper, you take a pen to do that ;-)
47. firstmithrandir (Posts: 3; Member since: 18 Nov 2013)
Both devices have cons. I have Ipad 2 since a long time and recently I got Samsung Note 10.1 2014, version white.
I would say like that: both devices have comparable cpu / gpu. The ipad one is in some cases faster, the Samsung should be more multitasking, because of its 4 cores.
I bought long time a go ipad 2 16 GB 3G, because I would like to make on it notes. My experience was like that:
- I like that there are so many good application, this is due to the iOS programming way. I do iOS programming for my work and I enjoy it a lot. The XCode is a great tool and it is cheep when compare to most of the software you find on Windows platform. You have nice design SDK with most useful icons / elements / tools. You have a great debug tools. It cost you 99$ a year. On Windows, Visual Studio costs much more and without Intel debug tools you can not even optimize application on it.
- There are this cool applications, which shows you all hot application deals, like AppZappPro.
- The GoodReader is the best pdf reading application I have ever saw.
- There is a great Omnifocus tool. Applications to make notes, mind mapping.
- The 4:3 screen is the best what you can have to read and keep a device in your hands, particularly vertical. Some bastards claims from 10 year on that the 16:9 resolution is great, but I really hate this idea. Try to work on 16:9 screens. All of them I have at my work have 16:10 resolution. It is like we should on any computer only watch movies, nothing more?
- you have iTunes, iTunes U, Kindle too.
- I had tried to get flash working with ipad and there was almost no way. Now it is less annoying, but few years ago it was a disaster. You can not go to book some tickets, most of the movies on many pages are not working. You have to use only youtube from mobile app, which by this time shows you not so good results. There were this crappy cloud computing application, but non of them have good experience, it is like remote blur desktop.
- I have tried to do the most important thing: taking notes. I got many nice applications. I got few pens and it just did not work our. You have to have our hand up to do not touch a screen. I found out that I had to buy some gloves. You have to have this 0,5 cm gummy strange pen which hide all the informations. I have tried for few weeks without bigger success.
- Then other problem arise. Each application have to have its own space. So sometimes it is double.
- I have tried to see a photos from my SD card. It was impossible to see it directly. You have only option to copy it, but then try to copy it if you have only 16 GB on device, no way, you are stuck.
- Finally my memory finished and I could not update or install applications anymore, do not saying about media content. Each time I have to delete something.
48. firstmithrandir (Posts: 3; Member since: 18 Nov 2013)
- I have tried to read books, it was ok, but I could not get use to search, for me flipping a book was just faster. I hate this that for most books I have to buy a kindle version / ibook version and then a paper one. Event I have tried for many times, if still I have to chose, I will go for a paper version of a book and then when I can not take it with me, I am buying kindle version. Kindle itself is so much crap on the market. The beautiful books format is cut to oversimplified version, which is much worse than the ones used in the editors in the mid 90ties.
Then I got Samsung Note phone on which I could use S Pen and I almost stop to use ipad. It was always too full and on my note I could always write and I love this idea.
Now I got a new tandem: Samsung Note 3 32 GB LTE black + Samsung Note 10.1 2014 16 GB LTE white. This are the standard version you can get from Amazon / Saturn on German market.
- Note 3 had it bigger problems in the beginning. You had this regional lock, but it was almost corrected in the newer software update. Now you have to register your phone with a local regional sim card and later on you can use a card from anywhere around the world.
- Note 3 had a problem with Knox system. When you have tried to root a phone, some system control would fire some e-fuse on the board. You can have problems later on with guaranty, you can not use Knox system on it anymore. As I know the Knox system check up and e-fuse can be already bypass by the new software. I never root my phone, maybe my old HTC, but it is good to know that it is still possible.
- I put on both devices 64 GB cards. This is a big plus. Nowdays 64 GB is only for 50 EUR. You can always take a card and put on it whatever you want. I have formated both to FAT32 and I can use them with my old Note too. I can copy to this cards whatever I want. Pdf, photos... I'm looking for microSD 128 GB cards.
-Note 3 Action memo is a must have function. This is my system of making fast information notes. Getting numbers, people names, important facts.
- There is this one greatest application ever on Android market: Papyrus. You can make a notes on infinity size page. It is like wow. You can make notes, save them, share between devices, make a pdf out of them.
- I have installed on both devices flash player and I can use it with for example Dolphin Browser. I can go for normal youtube page and I can watch a flash player context. What a big improvement.
To summarize, I could write much more. The best would be to have Samsung Note 10.1 2014 with iOS integrated. The Samsung hardware is already better then Apple one, but the iOS ecosystem is still more mature then Android one. Particularly if you buy tablet, because a lot of applications on Android can be used only with phone vertical orientation and have small resolution.
49. firstmithrandir (Posts: 3; Member since: 18 Nov 2013)
I would say that if you do not need S Pen you can go for iPad. Better applications, better media available context. If you need node taking device then sorry, I am stiil waiting for Apple to add this 5 EUR digitizer to their devices for the last 5 year. No digitizer, no note taking, no Apple. I heard about professional artist which switch from windows to Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. I am sorry many people would not buy 3000 EUR Wacom devices. I can not understand it. Why not so many people care about me, about us. Why Wacom do not want to put his technology to most device on the market and it concentrate on 0,01 % of users only?
When it comes to phones then I was using for some time parallel Samsung Note and iPhone 5, but now Note 3 have all advantages of iphone plus a bigger screen. I can read a book on it. It is nice to read web, to make notes of course. The only advantage of iPhone 5 is that is is still faster then Android. Even with Note 3 the difference is now smaller.
If Apple will make bigger screen for iPhone and put on their device digitizer then I would think about moving back. At the moment only Samsung with Note series cares about people like me. I am waiting for the iPad / Note 12 inch size.
This is 3 comments my review.
85. dougiefresh181 (Posts: 6; Member since: 12 Dec 2012)
Iphone/ipad will never have a digitizer or pen, that was promised by jobs before his end. And media playback is a joke on ios, you can only download/stream/play up to 256kbps mp3 files for music and apples locked down m4v movies, whereas on android I can play anything from apples locked down files to 126kbps ring tones to flawless flac files all on the same device
55. donfem (Posts: 633; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
The argument nevers stops. One is "better than the other" stupidity. I guess the fact that you "own" one makes it better for ever one else? Wrong. What is good for you is not good, or should I say, might not be the option for me. If you want any of them, please go for that but don't come here spewing your "hatred" for one while expressing your opinion and love for the other as the "best"
57. leokh (Posts: 1; Member since: 24 Nov 2013)
After reviewing samsung galaxy note 10.1 (2014) from many sites and having a physical feel of the demo set at the shops, I still don't think it is a match for ipad Air.
It is still less smooth, graphics not as great as ipad Air, look and feel of the device still cannot match with ipad Air.
I am a Android fan and user now using my Note 3 after moving to Galaxy S3 after ditching Apple iphone 4S. I am still using my ipad 2 for a few years now, but looking for a great Android tablet to replace it. So far all the Apple tablets still leads the pack and will I get a new ipad Air? The answer is a flat NO.
I will never go back to Apple anymore because of its limitation and restrictions it has for the users. Also, all things shared or stored has to be with iTunes which is slow and stupid. Also, there is no file system and external SD card for you to move files and anything from tablet to any other device which is stupid.
There are many basic functionality that isn't found in any apple device be it iphone or ipad, so most people have to jailbreak to get some of these functionalities which jailbreaking is a nightmare as everytime you upgrade to a newer version, you have to find a jailbreak for it and the whole process will take many hours possible 6-8 hours of your time including backup and restore of your apps etc.
Disappointed that Samsung or Google hasn't come up with a solid tablet for me to drop my ipad 2. Have dropped iphone 4S long time ago and never looked back.
58. miket247 (Posts: 81; Member since: 16 Apr 2013)
What about Price? Lets overlook that cause we all know that its not good for Apple. No biased here, when its not in Apple's favour, iPhoneArena just overlooks it!!!!!!!!!!!
88. dekoy316 (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
You're aware that the note is more expensive, right?
59. spectereid (Posts: 2; Member since: 24 Nov 2013)
Although samsung gives now more freedom but whn the jailbreak is released hopefully this month dont even try to say sam cause i will give u my middle finger and walk away
86. dougiefresh181 (Posts: 6; Member since: 12 Dec 2012)
Even with a jailbroken ios device, you don't get the functionality of a stock android. I already have a file system and native support for themes and various file types such as flac and mkv. Even jailbroken, you still have to get your apps and media through itunes. If I root my tablet and use a custom recovery, I can install entirely different operating systems, such as desktop linux, ubuntu touch, Firefox and custom versions of android
87. dekoy316 (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
You can play flac on an iPhone, you just need to download a 3rd party app. Which, by the way, is the same thing I had to do on my S4 to get it to play flac. But honestly, why are you listening to flac on your mobile device? You're never going to be able to hear the difference unless you're carrying around $10,000 worth of sound equipment with you; reproduction on mobile devices is not very good. But beyond that, I'm not going to discuss jailbreaking vs rooting as a feature. Both companies are vehemently opposed to it and will go to great lengths to not honour your warranty if they suspect it.
60. NeXoS (Posts: 287; Member since: 03 May 2011)
This statement is not only STUPID but also very Apple kiss-ass:
"We should also note that there's a substantial difference when it comes to aspect ratio. The iPad Air stays true to 4:3, which makes it very convenient for web browsing and reading, while the Note 10.1 has a 16:9 display that's more suitable for video playback."
Are you freakin kidding me?? Almost every computing monitor built for desktops or laptops supports a 16:9 and in some rare occasions, a 16:10 display. Even the iphone moved to that format.
Ipad is the only POS that is still on 4:3. So, what's "true" about it? It's truly outdated is what it is!
Get your sh!t straight Ray S.!!! PhoneArena needs to hire people that actually KNOW TECHNOLOGY instead of regurgitating kiss ass Apple dribble.
61. NeXoS (Posts: 287; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Another MORONIC & IDIOTIC STATEMENT by Ray S.:
"Besides its complexity, the fact that there are dozens of settings within almost every app doesn't help either."
Do you know how stupid it would be to have to, say, open up Google Chrome and instead of changing the settings of Chrome within the app, you had to leave the app and go into the OS's settings in order to change settings?
That's how IOS works and that is UTTERLY BAD UI DESIGN.
If the user needs to change a Chrome settings, put the Chrome settings *inside* the Chrome app.
That's how it's supposed to be, genius.
But, I guess that may seem complex to VERY STUPID PEOPLE like you.
62. NeXoS (Posts: 287; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Does the "S" in Ray S. stand for "SuckUpToApple"??
"The on-screen QWERTY keyboard of the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition is more versatile – it has an extra row with numbers, and it also tries to display a bit too many things at the same time, resulting in keys of smaller size compared to those on the iPad Air's on-screen keyboard. So, yeah, you may have to do a few additional presses in order to type the same thing using the iPad's keyboard, but most of the time users will feel more comfortable doing so with it, rather than with the Note."
Besides dedicated row of numbers, which (unlike what Ray S. is trying to get people to believe) is actually VERY CONVENIENT & EFFICIENT, the Samsung keyboard has only 1 extra key over the IOS keyboard.
Not only that, the Samsung screen is larger and can accommodate the DEDICATED number row with ease.
63. NeXoS (Posts: 287; Member since: 03 May 2011)
I left i-PhoneArena for about a year and accidentally came back. I can see now that nothing has changed.