All-angle comparison of the 8MP phones
It’s nice to be able to listen to quality music on your phone, isn’t it? You can kill a lot of time in this way and you can avoid boredom, especially when you’re on the road or you’re just waiting for something. And wouldn’t it be wonderful if you could watch the new episode of House M.D. or Prison Break that you downloaded yesterday at home...
codecs support (so that you don’t have to spend a long time converting) and a big display (since you would look rather weird watching through a microscope). In other words, C905 does not compete in this category, since it cannot play DivX/XviD clips (it is even limited only to MPEG4/H.263, which does not perform well), and its 2.4-inch screen is not very suitable. Fortunately, the other competitors have something to show in this respect.
Already with the launch of OMNIA, Samsung showed that they know how to build in codecs in their phones. In their top smartphone, however, there was a problem with bad artifacts, but it was possible to install additional programs and even to launch MKV files. In the non-smart Pixon you have no other option but to rely on built-in support of DivX and XviD. Fortunately it is great and we faced almost no problems launching files, even those with a 720 pixels width. However, for 1280 we’ll have to wait for the next generation of multimedia phones.
Renoir also supports both standards and, on the whole, you won't have to convert your clips so that you can watch them on the 3-inch display. Unfortunately some videos just won't start for no visible reason, while the same would run on Pixon. We have encountered this problem with some of the test XviD files.
In INNOV8 the situation is slightly different. According to Samsung, it only supports DivX codec, but in our tests we managed to launch also some XviD clips. In both cases the maximum width was 640 pixels. Fans of the Symbian smartphones now probably tell themselves, "Well, what do I care what can be played with the built-in player, if I can install a suitable program and everything will be super!"... and they’ll be absolutely right. However, in our tests with CorePlayer, 720x480 clips hacked slightly, but were generally watchable. However, in assessing the supported standards we take into consideration what the phone comes with, because not everybody would like to part with 30 U.S. dollars for one additional program.
As you are already aware, the loading of films, series or a clip is not a problem and for three of the 8-megapixel competitors you won’t have to convert, but what then? In other words, what is the quality of the picture?
Pixon will offer you its characteristic warm colors. It shows everything as if it was filmed on a warm autumn afternoon, which is rather nice and would appeal to most people, but, at the same time, it is far from reality. Apart from that, there are some small artifacts like, for example, the smooth transition of colors (especially if it’s from a light color to black). Anyway, the advantage of the big display is a fact.
The LG product might have some problems launching files, but it offers excellent picture quality. The colors are bluish and, on the whole, they are in the cold-color range, but their shading is good and there’re no artifacts and pixelising. A further advantage is the 3-inch screen, which is good for watching without too much straining your eyes.
INNOV8 has the smallest display, but its 16 million colors should make a difference, shouldn’t they? The correct answer is ‘No’. The clips colors are more real, compared to Pixon, but the shading of colors is not as smooth as in the case with Renoir. We encountered these problems already with OMNIA, when we thought they were due largely to the screen, which does not support more than 65 thousand colors. Unfortunately, these problems persist also with the hi-tech display and now it’s clear that we should look for the reason elsewhere.
i hate phone arena the lg renoir should of come out first if not second but to lose to the sony that is a clear sight that phonearena some how hates LG. which will always be better than a crappy samsung!
7. ceepan (Posts: 1; Member since: 26 Nov 2008)
The review made some valid points. I have just got a Renoir and do like it. However there are some issues. The biggest one for me is in the music playback. The phone gives you the option of vieiwng an ALbum. However when you do the tracks are displayed in alphabetical order, not the track order of the Album. You have to play it in this order as well. The ID3 tags have the TRACK field correctly populated. This is absolutely crazy. This should be addressed by a software update. The zoom within the browser could be better. When you press and hold the screen it zooms in or out, but I haven't been able to find how to control the zoom level. The manual doesn't tell you either. The Renoir has the potential to be an excellent phone/media player/camera combo, but currently the software lets it down.
20. Rippspeed (unregistered)
I too thought that the LG Renoir is alot better but having the phone for a month and having issues with the software bugs where the phone freezes for days on end. The only cure is to unplug the battery and let it sit for a couple days battery less ... Kinda gets to you ... Thats why I traded mine in for a Pixon, I hardly used WiFi anyway and GPS dont need it much when you have navigation in your car. This Pixon is my tempo phone until Nokia comes out with a 8mp touch screen phone....
I completely agree,GSMArena review was much better,come on Phonearena,Lg's Renoir has Dolby Sound that you did'nt talk about,and it's way better the N96 copy INNOV8 (that of innovate has nothing) and touchscreen crapy Pixon,and I wo'nt tell nothing about Sony Ericsson C905 ¬¬'
what do you mean?? the pixon touchscreen works very well. and the innov8 isnot a copy, its better than the n96. but u dont like the camera of the 8510
have you ever see 1 one of these phones? cuz a friend of mine have renoir and his menu LAGS and the DOLBY SOUND is weaker than my SE W200. but go on and thrust anyone you want, who cares
that depends on your personal opinion. i also dont like lg. the menu is slow and ugly. and the music player. omg. i hate it. i think its a very good test. and thank you phonearena. and the c905 cant be better. because it cant play vids and also a bad video resolution. I will buy the Pixon.
as I metioned before, this site totally biased towards samsung phones. Its really obvious that Samsung paid him for this review to make their phones the best. BTW this site really hates LG and SE phones! Anyway I will never trust your reviews, neither do the readers. P.S. you must learn from GSMarena.
but i also think that the samsung is a way better multimedia device. averybody is just talking about wifi and the camera. but the phone has much more to offer. and i think that the touchscreen, and especially(and what i think is very importan(for me)) the music player is way better
9. Stan (unregistered)
In this review, if you add the overall camera performance, Sony Ericsson C905 surprisingly wins! Score: 3.5 + 5 + 3 = 11.5
Renoir & C905 are the best... But phonearena hates them because they are better than Samsung,and do not trust ever this site!!!!!
gsm quoted"SE C905: 9/10 • Samsung INNOV8: 5/10 • Samsung Pixon: 7/10 • LG Renoir: 9/10 Final words There we are then, the 8 megapixel shootout is over and the crossfire is about to begin. Doing all those tests was fun but it was hard too. Now that there's seemingly the simplest thing left to do, we'd rather sit back and let everyone do their own math. It was our best effort - and our pleasure - to weigh up and compare all there is to a cameraphone. We know there's no way for every single feature on our list to be equally relevant to all users alike. So, if you're about to make up your mind, we suggest you only look at those that are most important to you. However we can still offer you a quick summary of our overall impression, without getting into numbers. If you are looking for the universal performer, then the Samsung INNOV8 is your definite choice with excellent image results. Besides first-rate stills, it also delivers VGA video recording 30fps or slow motion QVGA videos at 120fps and has a large display. If you are after the best camera interface and probably the best camera handling and controls, then Sony Ericsson C905 is your game. If you're really into touchscreen and massive high-res displays, the more balanced cameraphone seems to be LG Renoir with a load of camera features and great image results. It's also fully geared in terms of video recording with VGA@30fps, slow motion QVGA videos at 120fps or time-lapse QVGA clips. While the Samsung Pixon falls behind the Renoir in terms of image quality and camera features, it definitely outperforms the LG mobile with superior user experience thanks to the well organized interface and capable video recording with WVGA@30fps and high-speed QVGA vidz."
13. optional (unregistered)
read reviews at mobilereview. they have more detailed reviews. gsmarena favours nokia but also blasts them at times. and lets just forget about phone arena.
I was unsure if you were unfair and untrustable in your reviews, but now I am sure. Just change your website name to something like SamsungArena. At least that way, no one will expect you to be fair lol.
SamsungArena that is so true, i loved it
15. Manikandan (unregistered)
C905 and LG renoir is better when compared to samsung phones and i would feel that phonearena supports nokia and samsung and hates sony ericsson,other products....
16. Manikandan (unregistered)
Even in the review of 8 megpixel phone's phonearena mainly supports the nokia and samsung phones...LG renoir is really an good one whicn can produce absolute good pics than pixon and innov8..likewise C905 also produces great pics...still this site is biased towards one side review..which is really bad
it's all about the person and their taste. all of these phones looks really nice, but who is some else to judge for you? GSMarena and Phone arena can say what they want, all people need to do is see for themselves. i think all three of these brands are good, but when it comes to the phone itself i'd like to get hold of it and then play around with a bit to see if the phone suits me. that's what people should do, find out for yourselves and not just go on with someone elses opinion. i checked out the picture quality comparion of these phone and they seem pretty good, the comparison with the lighting conditions (low, medium, high) is affected by the angle you hold the phone, so i won't really take their word on that, but as for the ones that are taken outside (boat, amusement park) those pretty much a lot about the picture procesing power. and they all look pretty good to me.
Well, I agree with some of you that the review wasn't fair enough and somehow a little bit biased towards the samsung phones, but I'm still thankful to this website for this review and I appreciate there effort to review the 4 phones and compares their cameras shooting and video quality where its impossible for me to do it myself, so thanks a lot. I think that the LG Renoir deserves a higher score and its much better than Pixon, I don't know if the Renoir xenon flash is really that bad as its in the pictures taken in the dark where the last dark picture at the indoor test looks so bad that it makes you think the xenon doesn't even flashed xD... a candle will make more light than that ^^' Also, you didn't count the WiFi availability in the Renoir that the Pixon doesn't has (I'm wandering why such a good phone with a high technology like pixon doesn't have WiFi!! ) , its impossible for me to buy a phone that doesn't has WiFi Another feature that phone arena didn't mention at the review that the LG Renoir has a Dolby Mobile sound enhancement which really does make a different when switched on. They didn't also mention other camera features that only the Renoir has like Art shot and Beauty shot, they are really cool and useful. I don't know if there are any other features the Renoir has that aren't mentioned xD. AS for me, I think the LG Renoir is the best among these phones and I was going to buy it soon till I saw the Nokia N97, I think it looks much better than all of these 4 phones but unfortunately, it has a 5 megapixel camera which I'm really disappointed with it. If it has an 8 megapixel camera, I would definitely go for it. WHAT A SHAME NOKIA >.< Right now, I say Renoir is the best .. (I hope the xenon flash is much butter than it's shown here and at GSM arena)