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iPhone 5's terrible letterbox show Apple's apathy for developers

0. phoneArena 21 Sep 2012, 18:15 posted on

Apple has always prided itself on design. That's why every year, we get to hear in very minute detail what goes into the process of making the iPhone look the way it does. Unfortunately, Apple hasn't been so exacting when it comes to iOS design, and it shows with the iPhone 5's letterboxed apps...

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posted on 21 Sep 2012, 19:24 5

15. lasp24 (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


Nokia Lumia 920 doesn't have black bars on the sides of apps, and working maps, and NFC and wireless charging, and Optical Image stabilization, and an OS that is actually customizable. After much though, I am getting the Nokia

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 19:40

16. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I also like Nokia Lumia 920, but Windows Phone 8 is stopping me from buying it so, I say maybe in the future when there will be Windows Phone 9. :)

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 19:46 2

18. 12Danny123 (Posts: 87; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)


Well. There's nothing wrong with Wp8 it's just like IOS but more free and much less restricted than IOS 6. and it's definitely not a horrible upgrade like IOS 6. which turned out awful. While I think an Android user will get used to Wp8 for the specs. But Honestly I think Wp8 is a very good alternative to Android and IOS

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 19:53

20. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I agree with you 100%, but I still think that WP need a bit more time. I will refrain maybe till WP 9. :)

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 01:04

34. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


yes WP8 is a total rework of WP seriers from very bottom line its not a patch its new OS

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 19:40

17. infernal88 (Posts: 113; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


reading this "Assuming you're using a browser that's competent (read: not IE)" ... made me LOL XD

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 19:49 2

19. 12Danny123 (Posts: 87; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)


I Think tones of people will not like the black bars. and I never see people updating their apps at all. So I think people will think it's stuck like that forever. It will leave a bad taste in their mouth and the apps and especially IOS 6

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 19:59 2

21. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


That's pretty much Apple to a T, adopt/invent/steal new standards and abandon the old ones and screw everyone else because it's their problem, not Apple's.

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 21:40 2

23. Savage (unregistered)


Apple should use a PPI calculator or something similar for their devices. Fragmentation in iOS is just getting started.

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 21:57

24. stealthd (unregistered)


How are they terrible exactly? Apps function exactly as they do on a 4/4S. Same size same everything. How is that terrible?

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 22:25 1

27. johnbftl (Posts: 281; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)


It's terrible because Apple is selling millions of customers on the premise of having half an inch more real estate to use in apps and such when in reality, it will be blacked out. If you had a 52" tv and upgraded to a 70" only to find out that extra 9" on each side was blacked out, I'm pretty sure you'd be pissed off.

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 22:53 4

28. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


The best article I've ever read on this site. Finally someone not kissing Apple ass. I'm sick and tired of people saying that Android is nothing but a fragmented mess. Just look at what Apple is doing/not doing. Apple had this prime opportunity to redo the entire freaking operating system and come out with a phone that was totally different. Instead we get some $hitty maps app and upgrades that Android users have been using for close to 2 years.

I

posted on 21 Sep 2012, 22:59

29. mrllano (Posts: 91; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


It's difficult to be a known both in hardware and software.. That is why up to this point, we still have a good competition. Apple, Google, Microsoft, even Blackberry is known for a specific part, but not on both aspect.

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 00:33

32. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


since when the iPad's size is 10.1? its true.. hate that letterbox.... i think they should be unified with 16:9 ratio

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 01:03

33. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


new licence for the updated tools pay up Mr.Developers so u can adjust this thing easier :P

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 01:08

35. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


that makes APP count for IOS6 from 750k down to like 300k apps being 100% fit in screen hahaha head shot Apple

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 01:10

36. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


This is the problem I was talking abouth five months ago. I couldn't think of the way Apple will resize iPhone's screen without sacrificing lots of things.

When I have read first wave of rumors that say there will be 176 pixels taller screen, I thought they will use those pixels for virtual Home button and make iPhone butonnless for new generation of apps. Because 176 pixels in 326 ppi is exactly the space needed for Home button that is physical on all previous iPhones.

I knew there will be problems if they didn't do that. And there is no alternative except keeping the same screen, which is not possible for Apple anymore considering the pressure for the market. They did perhaps the biggest mistake in iPhone era.

And iPad Mini... I doubt there will be iPad Mini. But, since they already did one big mistake, why don't they make another? However, if Mini should have 1024x768 resolution, there will be no problems for developers.

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 01:44

37. plyfulgentleman (Posts: 43; Member since: 17 Jul 2008)


Oh me oh my! How the mighty havd fallen! Fragmentation on iPhone 5, say it aint so. God rest his soul, but if Jobs can only see this now. Certainly the cyclical theory is in effect once on top inky way to go is dowm. Just like apple to put the blame on developers on the letterboxing. One can only imagine whats in store for 5s? NFC perhaps? Safari on Ios able to link search on mac? Sounds like someone is playing catch up here...honestly folks not to sound like a phanboy but wake up. All these features were on gingerbread...but hey some people gotta learn the hardway...deuces everyone

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 01:51

38. princysharma1990 (Posts: 1; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


I am using iPhone 3GS and was really looking forward to iPhone 5 but its release is very dis-appointing. Its cost is not worth its services. :(
Now, I think I have to switch to Samsung or LG android phones.

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 04:21

40. RyFry (Posts: 6; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


Wait.... Who the hell could name a lead designer for any company. Bet you close to 98% of people couldn't even named apple's lead designer.

Sorry but Jony Ive is not a common know name. Maybe Tim Cook, but not Jony Ive.

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 10:19

42. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Yes it's a common known name.

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 12:43 1

43. vicorama (Posts: 8; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


This letterbox is a new Apple patent, no?

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 18:27

47. paulyyd (Posts: 338; Member since: 08 Jan 2011)


lol I don't see how letter boxing is a big deal, its not like developers can't update their apps to fit the new screen size. Yet again another issue blow out of proportion. Doesn't matter, this phone is selling like hot cakes. The consumers don't seem to mind

posted on 22 Sep 2012, 20:32

49. johnbftl (Posts: 281; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)


It's not a matter of JUST updating the app. You didn't even read the article did you? Developers essentially have to rewrite the app for the new screen size. Then there becomes the issue of the applications being in the app store multiple times. If you don't pay attention, and most people don't (not saying Apple users, people in general) you're probably not going to notice if it says for use with 3.5", 4.0", iPad, or iPad mini. Meanwhile Apple will just boast that they now have 2.8 million apps instead of 700,000.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 06:56

50. Windsponge (Posts: 92; Member since: 01 Nov 2009)


I am using 4s now my next will be note2 or new lg coming out. Who cares what phone you or I buy. People just tell features leave personal feeling at home.

posted on 23 Sep 2012, 15:05

51. Astri (Posts: 3; Member since: 23 Sep 2012)


I disagree with is article.
When apple doubled the resolution from 3gs to ip4 the only thing developers had to do was to add high resoloution images to their project. Same naming with a @2x at the end. Same case with ipad and new ipad.

View controllers has auto resize properties so i guess all you have to do, is to add support for iphone 5, recompile and you are done.

The only difficult case might be the games and the custum UI apps. But for android also those cases are handled by the devs.

Im android user by the way but developing for iOS is much more fun

posted on 24 Sep 2012, 16:17

55. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


This isn't as simple as making high res images for the art in your app. This is rebuilding all of the art for your app with a different aspect ratio. For some apps, that may not be a problem, but for a lot of apps, including most games, that can be quite a big task.

posted on 26 Apr 2013, 00:21

59. burkminipup (Posts: 1; Member since: 26 Apr 2013)


Yeah, I hate letterboxes. *opens widescreen video on GS3*, oh wait, back to iPhone 5.. Pretty sure the selling point for many of the android devices is that they are better for video. Seeing as I keep my iPhone on portait lock for anything other than videos, I'm glad it's not wider. I agree that apps that are basically just scrolling in the middle, could easily be automatically adjusted, but that puts some more pressure on the phone's processor, and lazy app developers wouldn't bother optimizing.

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