iPhone 5s’ Apple A7 processor specs, speed, RAM, GPU, other details revealed
0. phoneArena 24 Sep 2013, 03:33 posted on
The Apple iPhone 5S comes with the first ever 64-bit chip in a mobile device, the Apple A7. Apple has already told us a few things about its newest chip…
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1. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
The only thing iFans can praise about the 5s this time are the benchmarks. So, uh, specs do matter now?
19. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 384; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
No, Apple users don't talk about specs but about user experience. The overall performance of the iPhone 5S is overwhelming, especially if you take into account that Apple achieves that with a smaller device than the competition and with half of the RAM. Don't let yourself be driven by technology but drive technology! Spec hunting doesn't make you happy. Only user experience does. (That only applies if your device has achieved a certain level of technology of course.)
27. ahomad (Posts: 163; Member since: 15 May 2012)
"Apple achieves that with a smaller device than the competition and with half of the RAM" less screen pixels, no widgets, less functionality ... etc.
I am not bashing no-one, but people need to understand that the more the device can do, the more the power and the size it needs. Old iPhones were superior in term of performance but what happened after the introduction of multitask in iOS 7, iPhones start to lag (I have iPhone 4s and can clearly see it). thats why apple stayed away from adding more functionality to their devices to not affect the performance while android had multitasking long time ago along with other things. so you had 2 choices, more functionality and not so good performance or less functionality and better performance. however, these days with android you get more functionality and excellent performance, while with apple you still get less functionality and excellent performance. it is your choice, you don't need to be slave to a brand, you should get yourself the best available device.
31. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 384; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
When do you experience lag exactly? I use an iPhone 4 with iOS7. I only experience lag when pulling down Spotlight. Apart from that I don't experience any lag. The Spotlight lag also appears on an iPhone 5S meaning that it is really something caused by iOS 7 itself.
36. anirudhshirsat97 (Posts: 400; Member since: 24 May 2011)
My iPad2 lags a lot... I'm reverting back to iOS 6...if iPad2 lags.. I doubt iPhone 4 with less processing power doesn't lag.
42. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 384; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Apart from Spotlight, I don't experience any lag. Really.
38. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
What lies! Apple users are more concerned about fashion and trend, not user performance! They would sacrifice half of what Androids features just to show off with their device! Junkies, cults, hippies, tramps all just want an Apple device to state they can afford it!
If you want show off, buy Vertu phones!
Even dustbin cleaners can afford I phones
What a joke
43. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 384; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Just don't let your heart be taken over by hate completely. Besides that, I spoke of user experience, not user performance (whatever that means btw).
48. sapix (Posts: 1; Member since: 22 Jun 2014)
dont talk about specs??? u out of your mind. i want a phone which can open and close any apps under 1 sec. even i can distinguish 0.3 secs and 0.7 secs. i know iphone is not lagging, but the cant access the program quickly and i really appreciate every second of my life so i wont waste any second of it
23. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
There's a lot more than specs to praise for iFans, iOS7 was the biggest jump forward since it was first released. But yes, iFans will always bring up specs when they dominate. Android users will bring up their specs when they dominate. Welcome to PA, and smart phones in general.
iUsers probably don't care as long as the phone works properly.
24. silencer271 (Posts: 223; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
I find it funny when we find the one or 2 isheep that are techies that are in love with iphones.. Thats like being the gay guy that thinks he is straight and continues to pretend he likes girls when ... he really doesnt.
26. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 384; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
I don't like iPhones because of their specs but because of the user experience they provide me. I am more than a robot that just compares spec sheets calculating the alleged optimum. Spec hunting reduces you to a slave of technology. How about being a free individual that seeks for a device whose technology just works and serves him?
44. reckless562 (Posts: 985; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)
THANK YOU @silencer271 hit the nail on the head man
45. Y.U.No.Work.4.Manufacturer (Posts: 2; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
I find it funny when we find the one or 2 (any manufacturer)fans that are techies that are in love with their phone. That's like being the gay guy that thinks he is straight and continues to pretend he likes girls when... he really doesn't.
2. hipnotika (Posts: 305; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
supports open gl 3.0 and gives an outstanding 156 GFLOPS !!! insane !!!!
XBOX360 240 gflops
PlayStation 3 228.8 gflops
4. android_hitman (Posts: 652; Member since: 07 Jul 2010)
hahahahah... how can you know that? "More details about the chip will surely surface soon"
buy the phone and sell your PS3/XBOX. It's that simple.. Then with the money saved don't forget to buy some white Monster headphones...
6. faisolbauuz (Posts: 121; Member since: 05 Jan 2013)
Fyi the adreno 330 got around 130 gflops so apple wins in gpu again this time
Well the gpu gonna be beaten again by early 2014 android flagship like this year anyway
7. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1040; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
I'm not sure where you got the information from, but at least the implementation in the Apple A7 gives a maximun of 76.8 GFLOPS, like the A6X.
So there is nothing much to be excited about the GPU, Adreno 330 also supports Open GL 3.0 and provides the same amount of power. And even the Tegra 4 GPU is only a bit short (theoretical limit of 72 GFLOPS).
A different thing is if we talk CPU, there Apple engineers have done an outstanding job.
18. hipnotika (Posts: 305; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
it is in here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P
20. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1040; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Then may be we should correct Wikipedia!
With their own calculation:
GFLOPS formula = Numbers of ALU*Frequency(GHz)*5
Anand calculates *4 instead of *5
And the benchmarks are telling Anand is right this time.
11. SIGPRO (Posts: 497; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)
You want to compare the iphone 5s with a 360 and PS3.......hahha you must be kidding me what a stupid compare!
14. hipnotika (Posts: 305; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
i didnt compare mr clever mind. it's powerful as good as ps3 and xbox
12. taikucing (unregistered)
still can't match 2006 console haha
28. Shatter (Posts: 2031; Member since: 29 May 2013)
For comparison an $80 Desktop APU from 2-3 years ago is double the power of an xbox 360 (A8 3870ks integrated is 480 gigaflops) and a PC can be built for $300ish with one in it, the newer richland APUs are better but cost a bit more.
33. taikucing (unregistered)
read comment #15
the 156 GFlops he told probably was a hoax. Even tegra 4 with 72 SP & clocked @ 632 MHz is still 96.8 GFlops. Nvidia > PowerVR.
13. ahomad (Posts: 163; Member since: 15 May 2012)
the source you stated didn't mention the PowerVR G6430, I am not sure from where you got the 156 GFLOPS. Apple clearly stated that it is 2X the power of A6. which according your source it will be 2X 28.8 (A6 GPU) which equals ~57.4 that is slightly more powerful than the adreno 320, so the 330 should be more powerful than the A7 GPU. (This is clear speculation and might not represent the reality so don't bash talk)
15. taikucing (unregistered)
Where the hell did you get that number? I can't find 156 GFLOPS from the source you give.
32. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
a phone released in 2013 which cost three time more the of xbox 360 and ps3 still have less power than consoles from 2005/06 hmm surprising....NOT
3. bloodline (Posts: 693; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
I am an android fan boy and although its not much better than the iphone 5 its probably the most appealing iphone yet.
Its still behind the S4, HTC One and LG g2 tho regardless of crappy iphonearena's review
5. Trex95 (Posts: 571; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)
Apple already one year a head of Android now period.
8. tedkord (Posts: 5120; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
With their gingerbread copy? IOS 7 was nothing more than copied partial catchup. Fingerprint sensor was pure copy.
The only somewhat original thing that Apple did was go 64bit, but that was just modifying ARMs already announced and being worked on 64bit cores. And it was next to meaningless because they left the RAM at 1gb.
21. illusionmist (Posts: 124; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)
"Apple isn't original."
"Lolol so revolutionary!"
"Apple is doomed."
"iPhone sold well? iSheeeps would buy anything Apple makes!"
You know what's more boring than iPhone's "boring design?" Haters. EXACTLY the same sh*t every year.
25. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5921; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Fingerprint sensor is looking to be 2013s technology fail, what with apparent multiple hacks being posted within the first week of it shipping in the 5S.
Nothing like Apple innovating, eh?
29. Ninetysix (Posts: 1669; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
i bet you will change your tone in your post once Samsung, Sony, LG, HTC adds a fingerprint sensor to their device.
41. xfire99 (Posts: 565; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
LoL. More like 1 year behind. For each version of iOS release, there are more copycat from Android.
Control center - Android had it for ages.
Swipe to close app?
Apple know they are far behind Android and are making desperates moves now, to catch up.
Never release 7" tablet - Ipad mini!
Never bigger screen then 3,7" - Yeah sure!
Colorful plastic IP5C - Android and WP have it long time ago.
So who is far a ahead uh?
9. darkskoliro (Posts: 995; Member since: 07 May 2012)
I would mind a powerful dual core with insane graphics in my android too.
16. ahomad (Posts: 163; Member since: 15 May 2012)
"Apple’s own ecosystem allowed the company to stay out of the largely meaningless quad- and octa-core race"
This was true before iOS7, but not true anymore, my old iPhone 4s and Xperia s now have the same performance level. previously iPhone 4s was way faster than Xperia S but after the Xperia S got 4.1 update it came so close to the iPhone 4s level, and after the 4s got iOS 7 with multi-tasking ability, its performance went down making both phones (with more or less the same chips power) have almost the same performance level.
22. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8839; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Thank you for speaking the truth. Apparently, users are claiming no lag in iOS 7 when real world use, it's too much for the phone a to handle.
30. Shatter (Posts: 2031; Member since: 29 May 2013)
the iphone 4 and 4s completely fail at running IOS 7.
34. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
Like i said a simple Google search will expose iOS lag. But ifans don't know what Google is....
35. Ninetysix (Posts: 1669; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Don't you wear that on your head when you swim?
Google search is native in iOS6 and replaced by Bing search in iOS7.
40. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
No lag on the iPhone 5 whatsoever and it's custom A6 SoC On the other hand the iPhone 4 has an 800mhz single core processor of very old design.
Add in real multitasking and iphone users habit of never closing background apps and it's an obvious recipe for complaints.
37. Taters (Posts: 3524; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Apparently it only has 1gb of ddr3 ram, which is pretty mid range, sorry papa smurf. I guess 1gb of ddr3 is still better than the 2gb of ddr2 in the suck t c one, sorry I meant HTC one, though.
39. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Ram is much less important since iOS runs it's apps natively.
46. Samsungadroidrules (Posts: 104; Member since: 28 Jul 2013)
Hahahahahah! iSheeeps will praise APPLE what ever they release. Even if their smart phones are YEARS Behind to SAMSUNG, LG, HTC, They will still believe and bash other companies that their beloved crap iPhones are innovative, Better. Jeez iPhones lately are so Boring, Useless, Features, Still Over Priced. Come on, what's new with 5S? updated camera? Meaningless Finger print scanner? What's amazing with those? hahahahah. Really, the isheeeps are just going with the trend and doesn't know anything about Technology. Pathetic iSheeeps.
47. GamacP (Posts: 1; Member since: 27 Sep 2013)
Chipworks has revealed the transistor-level pic of the A7 on their site!