iPhone 5: what we think we know
0. phoneArena 11 Sep 2012, 09:18 posted on
It seems like ever since Tim Cook took charge of Apple, security measures at the company have not been as tight as they used to be. Just look at how alleged iPhone 5 components, mockups, and dummy units are constantly being exposed online, not to mention the flurry of iPhone rumors that we have to deal with every day. Of course, that isn't necessarily a bad thing since we kind of get to know what the smartphone will have to offer before actually hitting the shelves. In fact, today we decided to sum up all the iPhone 5 rumors in one place, just to have an idea as to what the smartphone is shaping up to be. Care to join us for a ride through rumorland?...
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1. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Meh. Tonight's nokia and motorola''s night. iPhone news could wait. Besides it would be announced next week, so this article should have been released tomorrow or any date. not tonight. :3
11. ab2412 (Posts: 8; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)
This article is here just because of iPHONEarena..
12. FranksGT (Posts: 167; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
Very true, IphoneArena has to make 5 post about Iphone, same crap in everyone to hype people up to buy it. I doubt IphoneArena is even popular enough to be getting paid by Apple so why do they do it?
Because its funny.
33. djoscar4u (Posts: 59; Member since: 10 Sep 2012)
Why do they do it! Because iPhone subjects creates a lot of traffics from cheap older folks that don't want to spend the extra cash to have the best phone out there. iPhone rules!
39. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9813; Member since: 14 May 2012)
That's funny considering I paid my GSIII off contract. Please do me a favor and Google the price for the phone, then come back and tell me if I don't want to spend extra cash on what is said and is backed by reviews, as the best phone in the world.
61. quakan (Posts: 1281; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
Those reviews and your opinion are all subjective. You acting like those reviews make your opinion true is truly laughable.
17. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"what we think we know"
If we know iPhone 4S then we already know iPhone 5. :D
Ok, ok, just joking, but knowing Apple it is still plausible. :P
18. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 6473; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Waiting to get a loss in court again? It'll be tossed out of court before it reaches the judges.
40. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9813; Member since: 14 May 2012)
You'll be tossed from PA (again) if your hobby of trolling doesn't stop. One would think that someone would learn the first three times.
48. E.N. (Posts: 2569; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I think in this case, you guys are the trollers.
42. Droiddoes (unregistered)
URRR HUUURRR DUUURRR!!!! u iZ ssseeeewwww fuNNEee!
3. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
PA's estimations in the new iPhone here are as probably accurate as you can get. 'New' iPhone will have similar battery levels,same software as the iPhone 4 and 4$ just a different charger port and slightly stretch screen (albeit into a TV remote shape). Every year ifans expect so much out of apple they really shouldn't expect anything outside the small changes mentioned above.
45. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
no i think YOU expect much out of it... the thing is people continue to buy the phone every year even the older iphone models are still selling... has nothing to do with sheep or being brainwashed...
they just choose to go with apple...
hahaha yall should learn to just accept that people are ok with things that you are not ok with...
50. E.N. (Posts: 2569; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Let me address all your points. The iPhone's current battery is not bad, its better than a lot of Android devices out there. Yes it will have the same software as the iPhone 4 and 4S, something you android folk can't really talk about since its split between jellybean, ice cream sandwich, and gingerbread right now. Yes it will have different charger port and smaller micro SIM, allowing the device to be 22% thinner. A 4inch retina display, LTE, NFC, possibly/hopefully a new design, updated cameras, faster processor. If all these rumors are true, then this is a great update, plus they might add a few surprises.
And I chose which OS I like the best and then look at the device(s). If I'm not pleased with what's announced tomorrow, I'm sticking with my current iPhone. Still not switching to Android.
51. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
dont you get bored trying to put a positive spin on a old design and features that other phone have had for ahwile
and no i aint an android fan or apppe hater i just dont see the appeal anymore. apple needs to focus on there products rather then well the stupid court room battles.
id enjoy seeing them show something completely new and differant on the 12th but i doubt it will happen. apple have basically now gotta play catch up to android hell even to symbian in some area's.
you apple devotee's have such small hopes if you just want a bigger version of the phone you already got with a couple tweaks to bring it upto speed with the competition.
p.s no one cares if your not gonna switch to android im sure they'll survive without you
58. E.N. (Posts: 2569; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
don't you guys get tired of saying the same things over and over and over again. Apple may be playing "catch-up" in some areas, but Android is playing catch up in other areas as well i.e. project butter, google play store app quality, voice control, etc.
LTE, NFC, better cameras, bigger retina display, faster processor, etc. Seems more like a couple of "tweaks"
If you want to see new features that the competition doesn't have, you're an idiot if you think they'll be leaked out. Wait until tomorrow. These are all just features that we expect. And to be honest, the android competition hasn't really set the bar high in terms of innovative features.
"no one cares if your not gonna switch to android"
- then why do you guys keep coming back, lol. If you guys aren't trying to recruit then what're you doing?
59. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
E.N recruit for what? you call me an idiot when everything your just said is biased pro apple drivel.
i dont see anything wrong with what i said. the things you say android are playing catchup in arent as important as what apple needs to include to catch up. it seems that nowadays a phone is judged not on its spec's and function but how many apps it has available to it.
ohh and iphone and better camera's ...really? the iphone camera is average at best nothing remarkable to shout about.
if you looked at the iphone as a phone forget all apples clever marketing you'd see its a mid range device.
''android competition hasnt set the bar high in terms of innovation features'' ohh but i suppose apple has. the latest android phones have much function and features putting them ahead. galaxy s3, note 2 are just 2 of samsungs offerings that are excellent pieces of tech
anyway like i said i hope apple does do something new but it looks unlikely and no one can say if these leaks are proved to be true that the 'new Iphone' is innovative or a contender against the android flagships and wp8 devices which are shaping up well
62. E.N. (Posts: 2569; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I never said Apple was innovative, we have to wait until tomorrow to find that out. But what I was saying is that I haven't seen many innovative things coming from Android devices.
The only thing so far that I think is really cool, are some of the features of the S pen on the Note II. As for the Galaxy SIII, its a great device but there's nothing innovative about it. S Voice? S Beam? Direct Call? Buddy Share? Even pop up play is a gimmick. All I hear about is how innovative the SIII is, but If you take the SIII for what it is, its just the latest Android device, with a bigger screen and up to date specs. There's nothing super special about it, yet it sold 20 million in less than 100 days. There are great pieces of tech out there, but the bar hasn't really been set high.
63. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
we dont have to wait till tomorrow ( well today) because history has shown apple has lost sight on whats important. will the 'new iphone' be a complete shock and groundbreaking i highly doubt that but would like to be proven wrong.
as for android you just sound like you hate it. all the things you call gimmicks on android are what people class as revolutionary on the iphone so guessing the iphone is the biggest gimmick around.
there nothing special about any phone then with your logic, unless a phone comes out that can hover you wont think its special. up to date specs, bigger screen , great OS all makes the s3 a killer smartphone. it has set the bar high and other phone companys like LG, Motorola,HTC and Nokia are continuing to raise that bar.
if the rumors are true and the new iphone is just a stretched 4s will you be saying its nothing special to?
60. beefsupreme (Posts: 32; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
"LTE, NFC, better cameras, bigger retina display, faster processor, etc. Seems more like a couple of "tweaks""
If they're just tweaks then why is it so groundbreaking when Apple eventually does it?
5. tlsmithsr (Posts: 81; Member since: 28 Sep 2010)
I have a Galaxy Nexus with sprint now and have been a fan of android for the past 3 or 4 years... prior i had the OG iphone iphone 3g and 3gs and with being disappointed with the same phone year after year i jump ship to Android. Now that i've had the android experience that I have enjoyed with the custom roms and mods, the openness of Android, the freedom to choice with different UI's either via mod or just a different manufacturer. I have learned one thing. The world isn't ready for Android by that i mean companies like Verizon and Sprint who hasn't released JB yet on the nexus. Companies like Samsung who just released the ever popular Galaxy SIII on ICS or HTC with their One series.. What im getting at is the one thing that Apple has over everyone is Updates. That's the one thing that you can count on with Apple is timely updates on there devices all being available on the same day and at the same time... That and a quality product. With that being said I think i may have to say good bye to Android and welcome back the iPhone into my life... *Waiting for the thumbs down*
8. parth027 (Posts: 5; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
U can always root your phone and be updated to the latest version of android.... And the amount variety i get in android devices like htc, samsung, sony etc. U can never expect that from iphone, u get the same design for 2 years (4 nd 4s) with a small display... I would probably stick to android
13. tlsmithsr (Posts: 81; Member since: 28 Sep 2010)
I understand that trust me I do I also appreciate the fact Android allows us to do that.. But WHY should we? I mean Why should I have to end the warranty on our phones to get the latest update when it should be provided when its released? Why should we have to wait 3-9 months for a carrier to release it once the manufacturer releases it? Variety is good i guess but its expensive as well for example If i bought the SG3 in June or July the Note II may out do it when its released so my phone is old after 2-3 months and I know thats technology for you but thats no excuse if I signed a 2 year agreement. and who's to say Samsung won't release the SG4 in Dec or January? I mean it just my opinion Im just tired of chasing the next best Android.
14. bucky (Posts: 1997; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
that right there is the main reason I switched. It gets tiring and eventually you just want a sturdy and easy to use device that will hold it's value and receive excellent support.
30. c.hack (Posts: 534; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
Right on. I got so sick of being afraid to answer my DX2 because half the time the phone app would crash.
Or playing podcasts in the car and having the phone lock up with a high pitched squeal at 100 db. Ever try doing a battery pull on a DX2 on the highway.
After 2 years I just gave up on the junk Android put out.
15. FranksGT (Posts: 167; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
FAIL. Stick to your outdated Iphone. With their updates you get fixed bugs. No changes in nothing. IF thats what your use to them stay with them. And your argument was completly wrong. The note 2 and GS3 aren't in the same category.
Enjoy your streched Iphone 5. Enjoy paying for apps, and enjoy the same old stuff :)
16. tlsmithsr (Posts: 81; Member since: 28 Sep 2010)
FranksGT currently I have the Galaxy nexus not the iphone... but for argument sake please tell us what Android phone you have.
19. parth027 (Posts: 5; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
I own a note and it would take ages for iphone to reach the mighty 5.3"
20. tlsmithsr (Posts: 81; Member since: 28 Sep 2010)
It was just a thought... a vent or rant rather because of Sprint and Verizon lack of urgency with updates ...
41. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
and it will take ages for Android to have the smoothness of iOS
43. Droiddoes (unregistered)
And ios will NEVER allow the freedom and customization of android. Fair trade.
56. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4174; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Android has been there for a while Gallito... My GS2 runs just as smooth as my friends iPhone 4S. Way to create arguements that only had ground 2 years ago.
24. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
you do knwo the note 2 is a streched SGSIII..right? ohh wait Sammy told you the Note 2 is a new design. ahh ok. my bad
26. tlsmithsr (Posts: 81; Member since: 28 Sep 2010)
Dude I'm not saying it's the same phone or same design. I know it's a different phone thru and thru.. My point is that it IS a different phone and it more than likely going to be better making the sg3 not a making the sg3 a crap phone but it will certainly give it the appearance of a downgrade even though it's only a few months older. All I'm asking for is a straight line when it comes to the updates. Now if samsung says on the release of the Note2 that an update for the sg2 and 3 is available now. I would be shocked and happy because only then would we have seen a step forward for Android
44. Droiddoes (unregistered)
You DO know i5 is literally a stretched 4S...right?
21. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
I get what you mean. I was promised an ICS update in early 2012 for my Rezound, but I only got it a month ago. I spend my time looking for the next best Android, but I find the fun is in the chase. Every few months a new phone makes other phones nearly obsolete, but as long as my phone works I am fine with it. When I am out of updates (1 to 1.5 years after I bought it) then I rom my phone. For now I am happy. I like the fact that my Rezound looks different than every other Rezound. I took pictures of fireworks and spent hours matching the ends of the lightning on Home clocks/weather to the fireworks. It looks awesome. That can't be done on the iPhone.
29. c.hack (Posts: 534; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
Wrong. Try ROMing a Moto Droid X2 or any of the many bootloader locked phones. If you knew anything about rooting, you would have realized it by itself does not allow modding.
The only variety from the manufacturers is skins and crapware that slow the phones down, make them a pain to use, cause crashes and prevent updates.
What you can expect from an iPhone is that it will get updates for years - and on time. My DX2 and DInc2 have yet to get updates despite the lies from Google and the manufacturers.
The iPhone has always been easy to jailbreak if that's your thing.
57. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4174; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I agree with that. But I don't care about bootloaders, since I don't root. I don't enjoy manufacturer skins as much as I used to. Though a few of them are still good, I prefer stock Android. Don't be so mislead though; my GS2, bloated with Touchwiz, hasn't crashed or lagged once since I got it. So don't automatically think custom UIs and crashes go together, because they don't.
And yes, you do get on time updates with the iPhone. But with every new iOS that comes out, more and more features get taken away from it the further you go down the generations that are supported, the only way to get the full experience of the new iOS is to get the newest iPhone, which isn't right.
At least with Android, you might not get the update on time by any means, but at least you get the full capabilities of the latest OS when you do get an update. And, if updates are so important to you, get an unlocked Nexus. Updates straight from Google as soon as the newest version releases.
6. rcrider4 (Posts: 118; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)
Umm, for the "Design" paragraph, the volume buttons and silent switch are on the left side, not the right side...
9. ab2412 (Posts: 8; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)
WHY such HYPE for this OVERHYPED PHONE?? We all know that it's nowhere gonna be close to SGS3.. Apple can all is do to SUE this, SUE that.. Oh they are the competetion, Let's sue them on F*cking Patents.. Looser APPLE.
27. bstepchin (Posts: 20; Member since: 13 Dec 2010)
Actually, I just recently upgraded to a sgs3 and it just doesn't work as well for me as an iPhone did. Some of my medical apps crash often (even after I hard reset the phone) and the keyboard is not as great. I love the larger screen, but there are certain features I miss on my iPhone. For example, I can throw on my headphones and text people or switch music with Siri, but you can't do it with sgs 3 unless you don't use a screen code, which I really need. Also, the notification screen doesn't show the full text and requires to unlock the phone. That may be amended with roms, but I just don't have the time for that. So in conclusion, my point is it depends what you use a phone for. Each has its pros and cons, so maybe it's not about hype but about usability tailored to each individual. So be a little more open-minded next time because your opinion may not reflect that of the whole ;)
35. MartyK (Posts: 730; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
So do you want to sell your S3?, are you State side? who's your carrier?...hahahah
10. FranksGT (Posts: 167; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
I seriously can't believe with all that money they have, they couldnt redesign a Iphone. Bunch of underpaid chinese people jumping off the top of the building and making the same crap everyday.
I feel sorry for apple because their about to witness a execution from android if they decided to release such a outdated device.
23. MATOZ (Posts: 73; Member since: 10 Aug 2011)
Possibly the retail packaging SAYS: "new Iphone"!
just like the new Ipad!
25. hosker (unregistered)
Android fans have a serious urge to try to convince everyone that android is better. They see a fake iphone picture and they attack that eventhough is FAKE.
You spend the whole year talking trash about a phone that doesnt exist.
Comparing your android devs. To the iphone.
iphone vs. A new android phone every month,
Is a 2 years old iphone 4 vs. Your just release android devs.
Doesnt that tells you something?maybe phonearena will torture you less if you stop hating on apple so much. You android fans put the hype,you expect so much from apple.You actually believe it was "magical" and you want it to be "revolutionary"all over again.you're never fully please with anything.that's why samsung has to make the same phone over and over again with a bigger screen each time.i understand your pain, you want apple to take it to the next level AGAIN...a cheap installed in your brain and play all your apps there and a projector Flashing from your eyes ;p would that be enough, I doubt it.
Currently own galasy s2,Waiting for the next iphone.maybe in 2 years samsung will make just 1-2 phones and make those phones stable.
32. mikas (Posts: 1; Member since: 09 Sep 2012)
TOP 5 Best phone 2012 :
1- hTC one X
2- Samsung Galaxy S III
3- Nokia Lumia 920
4- Sony Xperia ION
5- Apple iPhone 5
49. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
think the nokia 808 should be up there, its one of the biggest innovations of the year
52. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I respect your opinion, but I think a bit different. In my opinion Nokia 808 PureView by it self is not an innovation, PureView technology is innovation in mobile world. Also this year still doesn't end so there still can be some surprises. :)
54. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
thumbs down for an opinion lol nice
very true and id like to see some real suprises before the year ends, yeah pureview is a mobile innovation and what nokia seem great at raising the bar for mobile camera phones.
lets just hope we see more innovation soon
53. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
This year still doesn't end!
34. MartyK (Posts: 730; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
"The question remains whether with those extra 0.5 inches of display real estate, the smartphone will be as easy to use with a single hand as the current model. Some claim it will, some claim it won't, but it seems like that will be up to each individual user to decide."
Nick, really?, you're question if a person can hold a lousy 4 in display phone in one hand?.
I hope you're aware that the real world is working with 4.3 inch to 5.5 inch screen now, right?.
36. android_101 (Posts: 3; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
what is apple without other company? all they have on that that phone is the software, the rest of the hardware is from other company...and all they do is sue here, sue there, sue every competitors that beat their products so they will always be on top... what a loser!
37. RGreen (Posts: 60; Member since: 06 Jul 2012)
Apple / Samsung court recoders clearly show one in the same device, bigger smaller, I love qulity, problem get them both.
46. abhijeit (Posts: 25; Member since: 07 Sep 2012)
200 NEW FEATURES!!! LMAO!!!! 200 FEATURES WHICH ARE 200 YEARS OLD ON OTHER PHONES!!!