iPhone 5 deemed 'slowest smartphone' in Geekbench comparison, but results might not be comparable
0. phoneArena 25 Jun 2013, 08:59 posted on
The Apple iPhone 5, the fastest selling smartphone on the planet, is now deemed to be the slowest one in a comparison with top-tier Android handsets…
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110. techspace (Posts: 987; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
did i say that the 3gs performs incredibly well?....no(but the newer iphones do), but i have said that scrolling and swiping is smoother on the 3gs when compared to the android phones...and i have always had more droids than ios devices...
anyways, if you want to hear what you like to hear and if you want to be the last person to reply, then go ahead, just do it...
i won't reply to you because your fa***r didn't teach you to respect others...
reply to me,try to abuse, provoke me, i won't care, i will just ignore you...because i don't think your comments are worthy enough to read...i don't want to waste my time in abusing you...
111. Sniggly (Posts: 7301; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
If you claim that the 3GS performs on par with modern Android phones, you are by default declaring incredibly good performance. I have had many Android phones too. I'm typing this response on one of them. If you say that the 3GS performs that well, you are a liar.
I was taught to respect those who deserve it. Where have you earned such respect? I don't respect liars.
72. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10309; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Guess you've never seen an iPhones 4 or 3GS run iOS 6 then.
77. techspace (Posts: 987; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Exactly....iOS devices are really smooth...the old iPhone 3GS is a little laggy but its still very much comparable to the latest android flagship phones, infact scrolling is smoother than the latest droids...I don't understand how they manage to get the idevices run so smooth for years....lets hope that android gets smoother this year...they are working hard on it
103. Sniggly (Posts: 7301; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
No, no, no, the 3GS is not in any way smoother than ANY Android flagship. It may be on par with the cheap ass Android phones on the prepaid carriers, but the flagships are just as smooth as any iPhone past present or future.
108. techspace (Posts: 987; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
then you don't know much about android and ios...
i have seen many of them...i have personally experienced most of the flagships and i have found out that ios is the smoothest, fastest...
but i wanted an android phone because i already had the ipad....so i have searched for the smoothest droid...nexus 4 was the smoothest droid, it was slower than iphone/ipad but it was pretty convenient...unfortunately, it is getting a little slower now so i am waiting for the nexus 5
112. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 299; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
not to bud in on your convo but apple does keep up for a "while" when updating new devices but my iphone 4 on iOS 6.1-7b2 is in no way faster or smoother then my gs3 not in terms of UI flow, app loading among other things. so i find extremely hard not to agree with sniggly. iOS may be super fast on the 5 maybe even the 4s but optimization stops there. i have no idea how that no low-cost iphone will play out with its "slower" processor .
11. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1495; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
I don't know what's the issue... iPhone has great battery live with a small battery on the cost of CPU processing power, as they always underclock the CPU to get that.
Swift cores are Krait 300 equivalents, just Apple uses a dual core clocked at 1.3 GHz, while the others have quad cores and run at higher frequencies.
And Geekbench 2 is extremely well theaded, meaning it takes advantage of all cores, which most of your everyday applications don't.
So the results are valid and OK, as far as you understand the benchmark. You'll get the same results in ANY multi threaded CPU benchmark.
They show that the older dual core CPU of the iphone 5 is less powerful than the new ones. I would say quite the expected. No need for excuses. Next iphone probably will have a more powerful CPU.
30. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Swift cores still smoke Krait 300 cores in memory performance.
46. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1495; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Only in Stream performance, not really in Memory performance.
(manipulation of big matrix-arrays)
HTC One iPhone 5
Memory 2483 1856
single-core scalar 941 1537
single-core scalar 4302 2112
single-core scalar 422 527
single-core scalar 2473 2833
single-core scalar 4281 2274
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14. ajac09 (Posts: 1480; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
yet when its the fastest comparing to old phones iphonearena makes 20 articles about it.
19. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
If the iphone won, it would be the gospel truth from phonesarena.
So biased I can't believe what i read sometimes
23. Malique001 (Posts: 58; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
But if you compare the iPhone 5 to the Snapdragon Galaxy S4 in browsing speeds, opening apps, etc. the iPhone 5 won most of the time. Benchmarks should be taken with a VERY small grain of salt.
74. MistB (Posts: 581; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
exactly what i've been saying. Go to youtube and browse Lionking 853's channel when he does the speed comparison test pf web browsing between the HTC One/Galaxy s4/note 2 and IPhone 5. 9 out of 10 times, the IPhone 5 is the quickest phone without a doubt.
29. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
638.6 ms in Sunspider. Yeah the IPhone 5 is so slow. I've owned multiple quad core androids and the iPhone is still as snappy as any if them.
31. zunaidahmed (Posts: 160; Member since: 24 Dec 2011)
Actually, in terms of raw cpu performance, iphone 5 is way behind. Because it should be similar in performance to snapdragon S4 dual core(s), so when competing with the quadcore powerhouses, it would be crushed, literally. Don't thumb me down this is a fact we all must agree on. Apple has always done so good on utilizing the raw power, that they use about 80%-100%, while android on the other hand, even after 4.2.2 ice cream sandwich uses only about 30%-40% EFFICIENTLY, yes EFFICIENTLY. THATS the reason iphone 5 kills them all in user experience and smoothness.
100. zunaidahmed (Posts: 160; Member since: 24 Dec 2011)
prove me wrong, please.... are u saying apple A6 dual core at 1.3 GHZ kills the quad cores at raw power. Not a chance. Or r u saying that android runs as smoothly as ios. IOS 6 runs smoothly on my 4s with 512MB and A5 dual core at ~1 GHZ. Please explain why is that. I don't see galaxy S2 running too smoothly at 1 GB ram and 1.2GHZ dual core, at least compared to 4s
106. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1495; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
I don't have to prove you wrong... you have to prove yourself right.
I can say the same you said but the other way around and then tell you to prove me wrong.
But saying that iOS uses 80% efficiency while Android uses 30% is just a joke. Where do your numbers come from? Any test or starting time for applicaitons says otherwise.
Check Mozilla Kraken or Google Octane here and compare iphone 5 to GS4:
ANY test tells you are wrong. Any more prove?
What have you to show to prove how "efficient" iOS is? Nothing for now except your word for it. And that's not add a lot of assurance, really...
35. kusalanupama (Posts: 9; Member since: 15 Dec 2012)
stupid. for me it runs everything real smooth and i love my iPhone 5. it does perform parallel to quad core or so called octa core devices very well.
44. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
Apple is really good when it comes to optimizing their software with hardware
98. kusalanupama (Posts: 9; Member since: 15 Dec 2012)
yeah man. using my iPhone for like 2 months now. didn't feel a single lag. comparing to my Galaxy Nexus before iPhone 5. from some peoples comments its obvious they never had and iPhone but commenting about an iPhone and blaming it.
39. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 588; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)
Also, a 747 is much faster than a nuclear submarine, except when it's submerged in the Atlantic Ocean.
41. darkkjedii (Posts: 18391; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Apple you'd better give it some gas lol. Vroom vroom
47. pkiran1996 (Posts: 166; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
It seems that fanboys have taken the opportunity to associate the Galaxy S4 with 'lag' - a perfect thing to rip on, despite many of these lag-reporters not owning an S4 themselves. Obviously a lie. Pathetic.
53. jellmoo (Posts: 1233; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
Dude, if you want to plug your ears and go "la la la" everytime someone comments on your phone of choice, go right ahead.
Just because people comment on a flaw with the phone, doesn't make them pathetic or fanboys. Allow me to illustrate. If you own an S4, go to any settings menu and scroll rapidly. Or cycle between home pages rapidly. Or cycle quickly through the app drawer. See that lag and stutter? Yes you do. Pretend it doesn't exist if you want, I don't care, but it's there. I am looking at it right now.
60. pkiran1996 (Posts: 166; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
The only time I have witnessed lag is during the installation / uninstallation of an app, and upon booting. Both of which happen on every other Android device I own (Nexus 7, Galaxy Nexus). There is obviously lag in certain situtations, but situational lag and persistent lag are very different things, with the former being easily twisted into the latter, which is unacceptable. It's the perfect opportunity.
63. iushnt (Posts: 1317; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
Does lagging when scrolling super fast matter? This phone can perform any task easily.. It does much more than iPhone 5.. I won't scroll home screens so fast just for the purpose of finding and excuse not to buy this phone.. Only haters do it so that they can troll
64. jellmoo (Posts: 1233; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
It is so tiresome to see words like "hater" and "troll" tossed around when people disagree with your opinion. Not only is it insulting, but it's the poorest form of an argument that exists.
Simply put: I can sit here with a One or a Nexus 4 and play around with them and not see the lag/stutter I do with the S4. If you're okay with, cool! Enjoy! More power to you. For me though, we're talking an absolute top of the line brand spanking new device. I should not be seeing this lag.
49. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 959; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
I'm guessing they used the S600 based GS4? Because that GeekBench score is very low, just ran GeekBench on GS4 Octa and got 3613.
70. ran183 (Posts: 1; Member since: 25 Jun 2013)
If I'm not mistaken, the US version of the Galaxy S4 has an LTE radio, which means it has a less power hungry processor. I wonder how the US version of the Galaxy S4 will do in this comparison, especially against the HTC One.
75. Eonnaydra (Posts: 217; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
Here,we know that the benchmarks are useless because the real-life experience is what matter,but for the normal consumers who don't anything about tech,the android OEMs will throw these figures to them as a big advantage against the iPhone and of course will say that their phones are faster.Here appears manipulation.
In fact, the iPhone 5 crushes the competition when it comes to gaming/browsing experience(pinch to zoom in/out,scroll)/smoothness of the UI/opening and loading apps.
I'm just waiting to see the A7 which will be a beast.
99. kusalanupama (Posts: 9; Member since: 15 Dec 2012)
yes i agree :) i had no lags or slowness in my iPhone 5.
80. Sniggly (Posts: 7301; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I'm pretty sure I'm the ranking veteran of Phonearena here. Since I am, it's my duty to point out that whenever Phonearena posted articles regarding benchmarks between IOS and Android devices, the IOS devices usually won hands down. Naturally, PhoneArena never called the results of those tests into question.
However, the first time someone runs a benchmark on both and the iPhone gets its butt whipped, PhoneArena has to cry about how the results are probably skewed.
I haven't said anything about authorial bias in a long time here, but I'm totally calling it on this article.
96. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4250; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Agreed. When the iPhone 5 beat the GS3 and Nexus 7 in Geekbench last year, Alan F. stated it as indisputable truth, but at least recognized that after the 4.1 update the GS3 it outscored the iPhone 5. But when the GS4 beats the iPhone 5, suddenly the exact same cross platform benchmark isn't that reliable, according to Victor H.
86. kopkiwi (Posts: 43; Member since: 31 May 2013)
I hate the iphone 5 and it's boring UI (ios7 included) but this is pointless. iPhone doesn't get laid down with the same processes that android phones do.
95. shamashu9 (Posts: 142; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
They didn't even include windows phone 8. Ah may its is not a smartphone as the title of the test implies. Windows Phone 8 is beyond a smartphone that is why it is not even included on the test. It so fast that the even the benchmark cannot mark it on the bench.
104. Trex95 (Posts: 852; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)
Might be the slowest in Geekbench. But in real life it's the fastest and more smoother than all Android flagship including S4, the only Android phone equal to IPhone Nexus but still has a bit of lag in games.
105. Sniggly (Posts: 7301; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Your post smacks of education and experience.