0. phoneArena 19 Sep 2012, 09:49 posted on
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3. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)
what result's are in browsermark?
21. some1 (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
i think sunspider is single-threaded so it won't benefit from more cores.
2. VJo003 (Posts: 357; Member since: 11 Mar 2012)
Always encourage new benchmarks !!
4. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
An Apple device that shines in CPU benchmarks...!
10. WakaFlakaD (Posts: 481; Member since: 30 Apr 2011)
I think people would be more curious to what the hack is the Lava device came from lol
29. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
First Intel Medfield Android phone. I believe it's only available in India.
34. WakaFlakaD (Posts: 481; Member since: 30 Apr 2011)
Porkguy...I wonder if you are Cantonese lol
7. xoutrageousx (Posts: 70; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
Impressive....here goes to Android fans to plead their case of their current phone that is faster....GO!
12. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Agreed, I'm officially impressed!
13. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Its likely because the A6 uses true A15 cores instead of the rip-off that Krait uses.
27. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
You're actually wrong. The A6 doesn't even use an ARM reference core design, it's a custom Apple design that runs on a modified ARM v7 architecture to support a few custom instructions.
Krait is like Cortex A15 but the pipeline isn't as deep because Qualcomm wanted to keep power consumption down. Krait v3 should give more performance though.
30. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
There is no true A15 out as of right now.
Hell A6 isn't even like A15 chipsets.
33. levvy (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)
A6 is not Cortex-A15. Phonearena confirmed earlier post
11. bbonline (Posts: 38; Member since: 24 Feb 2011)
If you notice, every phone that beat the iPhone 4S in this benchmark test, came out AFTER the 4S was released, except for the Galaxy S II. So, it seems like once Apple releases a phone, it surely comes out near the top. It's their once a year release schedule that hurts them. If they were to make an iPhone every 6 months, they wouldn't have to be playing catch up. Wait and see how within the next year we'll see an army of new phones beating the iPhone 5 in this test. Happens every year.
36. Paradox (Posts: 124; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
If you notice, the iphone came out AFTER all those phones listed in the benchmark. If the S3 was to be released now, it would probably be running a quadcore exynos 5.
14. Nookie4u (Posts: 133; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)
Well, if you don't mind me saying so: apple hit the spot again!
17. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
thats a darn nice score.
What I find more interesting isnt that. Look down at the "Tmobile SGS3, SGS2, and ATT SGS3"
The SGS2 mentioned uses the crappy old S3 crapdragon chip. And it outperforms the Crap Krait chip in the US SGS3 ATT and keep up with the Tmobile SGS3 which uses the same Krait chip. Wow.. all that "A15 equivilant" BS advertising and it cant even get past its old S3 chip which was the worst A9 dual core chip of the last generation. No thanks.
19. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Sorry, I thought it was the US sgs2 mentioned, its not, so its safe to say thats the international SGS2 which is Exynos 3 series based.
It still proves the same point though. All that fluster and hub-ub from Qualcomm about how the Krait is "A15 Equivalent" (never believe a salesman) and it cant even get a real edge on a 45nm dual core chip from the previous generation.
Yea.. no thanks.
25. sadaivadai (Posts: 156; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Yeah the same crap krait chip is present in the HTC one S which is just below the score of the "international" Galaxy SIII ... Oh did we mention that it is a crap chip ???
its a pretty good one ..
28. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
If you can't tell, you're being downvoted because the SGS2 mentioned is the international version with Exynos 4 dual and you're picking the wires for the worst possible score that Krait can get, because the Evo LTE is obviously 200 ms faster than the Exynos 4 dual in Sunspider.
18. jinx20001 (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
yeh but as impressive as this figure is it dont tell the whole story, and that story is that overall the iphone 5 scored lower than the galaxy s3 which we all know was released months ago, its still impressive on apples behalf considering the clock speeds blah blah blah but its still not the full story sorry to say.
31. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
yup the GSIII was released sooo long ago, its unfair. Weren't companies comparing their devices to the 4S all the way up until the iPhone 5 was released. When the Galaxy S4 is released, its going to still be compared to the iPhone 5.
39. jinx20001 (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
yes companies were comparing their phone to the 4s ofcourse they were but do you think that was because the 4s was still performing alongside the top models or because everyone had one? hmmm lets think about it now because it has been considered by many to be underpowered for some time now im sure most would agree with me.
thats not to say im saying it was no good because what it did it did very well, still does not mean it wasnt lagging behind tech wise. so saying that the galaxy s4 will be compared to the iphone 5 is well no s**t sherlock because they want to win customers from apple, even tho we all know the galaxy s4 SHOULD blow the iphone 5 away. but then saying that, thats kind of what we expected the 5 to do to the s3 and well it hasnt really has it.
20. some1 (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
i think sunspider is single-threaded so it won't benefit from more cores.
22. jinx20001 (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
much more revealing is this,http://browser.primatelabs.com
it shows that the overall score of the iphone 5 is 1601 but it is bettered by the galaxy s3 overall, when you dig deeper the iphone 5 excels more in the memory speed department which is good for the iphone but still does not quite put it in line with the galaxy s3 when overall performance is considered. now dont get me wrong obviously the processor apple has used is brilliant considering how well it has done, the problem is the galaxy s3 is still faster overall and gives a better score. the problem for apple is simple, if android continues to become more efficient which they are obviously working on,( jellybean being a good start has proven to give an even better benchmark result.) then people will take more notice of how much faster android devices actually are. for example i think if the galaxy s3 was running ios6 next to the iphone 5 it would walk all over it, the operating system is the performer on apples side not the tech.
32. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
looks like you still don't have the full story. The iPhone 4S scored over 500 below some of the devices shown on the chart, yet it was just as fast if not faster than many Android devices. The iPhone 5 scored only 200 from the SGIII....
Stop jumping around and making excuses.
37. jinx20001 (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
whos jumping around?, this discussion is about benchmark scores and how well the iphone 5 has done but its misleading because people think because of this the iphone 5's benchmark is higher than the galaxy s3 when overall it isnt, what you state is correct about the 4s being faster than alot of android devices and thats a reason why benchmarks are not real world performance but ya'll cant have it both ways and jump up and down when it scores high and then say in the real world it dont matter when its not the winner you see what im saying, gosh :)
38. jinx20001 (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
sorry to harp on but re'read what you write before posting because you just said it yourself about the scores on this chart and how the 4s scored well below others and performs better, wasnt that exactly what i said in my first sentence? this chart means zippo when in the real world. and besides that for those that take the charts as a real idea how the phone performs this is the wrong chart to look at and on the chart that matters the iphone 5 does not come out on top, thats all i was trying to get at.
23. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Every year tops benchmarks for some months...still people surprised? It's the only field where they put some effort. Anyway, useless with 2007 UI and internet sites in mobile mode with no flash and pictures in low res - was already overkill with the 4S.
It's like having a Ferrari on a road with 50 mph limit.
24. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
The only people who would notice the difference maybe are techies. The casual user will probably not realize the difference.
26. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)