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iPhone 4 users switching to Verizon not more than AT&T expected

0. phoneArena 03 Mar 2011, 09:28 posted on

With the iPhone 4 becoming available on Verizon's network some were predicting huge crowds of subscribers switching...

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posted on 06 Mar 2011, 13:53

39. XxVerbalxX (unregistered)

yeah cause its always a good idea to not focus on what you do wrong and correct it. just keep a smiling face and bask in past accomplishments.

"uh dude ur car has no engine"
"so? check out what a good job i did on the paint!"

posted on 05 Mar 2011, 05:09

28. attrox (unregistered)

I work for att and i sign over verizon customers every day. And with our new unlimited talk to any mobile carrier we have ur pricing pinned for now. As far as your comparison of our data your way off. I had verizon. Download speeds are terrible, thats why your 4g phones will use sim cards your network cant handle it. What now, i talk on the phone surf the web send a text all at the same time. No glitches. Ive never dropped a call and i dont live in new york. Verizon lies about their coverage area. Att is honest and informs their customers where they will recieve good bad or no service. I find it hard to believe you get perfect service over your entire network, very vague coverage map vzw. Now that apple doesnt have a choke hold on us anymore things are only gonna get better. Keep apple we dont need em.

posted on 05 Mar 2011, 08:47

29. my coverage is larger than you (unregistered)

What about "2G" or better known as edge? Unless Im in a city, all I get is Edge. Hell, its hard for me tobdo these speed tests on ATT because they are so damn slow outside of a metro area. I will say that the Atrix is a nice phone for you guys. Great accessory options.

posted on 05 Mar 2011, 11:58

31. attrox (unregistered)

Att doesnt lie about their coverage... all you have to do is look at the coverage viewer. If you dont get service its your own fault for not doing the research. If you think our dg data speeds are bad try verizon 3g about the same speed haha. And no one can say im lyin cause i been there.

posted on 05 Mar 2011, 22:38 1

32. my coverage is larger than you (unregistered)

@attrox: I'm not going to say that ATT lies about coverage because I'm sure they have plenty of lawyers in place to advise ATT how to word their advertisements. When in comes to coverage, I test Baltimore, DC, Philly, Northern VA, Richmond VA, and the Hampton Roads area. With ATT my dowloas speeds are solid as long as I'm inside of those cities. I still don't get these fantastic speeds that ATT claim. The highest download speed I ever recorded was in DC right at 2.3 mbps.

The point I am making is that once I leave the aforementioned cities, my ATT coverage goes almost non existent. Best case is 2G Edge. Traveling to and from cities is absolutely horrible for coverage much less data speeds.

VZW has 3G in its ENTIRE COVERAGE FOOTPRINT. Sure my data speds vary but its still 3G.

To address your "That's why VZW will need sim cards because our network canr handle it" just shows your lack of knowledge in this industry which doesn't suprise me if you are an ATT employee. All 4G LTE devices will use a sim card because they will be quadband capable and eventually all phones will migrate to GSM technology. These all require sim cards.

I also never claimed that VZW worked everywhere. If you do a search on 3G coverage we all know the result there. Lol. In regards to overall national coverage, we still maintain a slight larger area but it is more even.

You guys love to claim about surfing the web, along with talking and texting at the same time. While this is a nice feature, most people could care less. In a focus group of customers who had all varieties of service providers, 82% did not think the capability was a big difference maker, 15% said it was very important and 3% could've cared less.

And don't you have to be on ATT's 3G er ah 4G or whatever the hell you folks plan to call it in order to use the simantanious voice and data????
I can't speak about all of the U.S. but in the I-95 coridor from Hampton roads to Philly its almost impossible to take advantage of that so called feature that ATT claims is such an advantage over us. Its quite amusing.

Look son, its obvious you work with ATT and you are defending your company as you should. I respect that. Starting looking for jobs at VZW as soon as you can. ATT will take a big hit this year. No iPhone exclusive rights+lack of true 4G network=equals poor quarterly results which equals layoffs.......

posted on 05 Mar 2011, 23:56 1

33. mannyfs (Posts: 67; Member since: 11 Feb 2011)

i moved back to verizon a week after the iphone came out.. couldnt be happier =]
woooh hooo!!!!!

posted on 05 Mar 2011, 23:57

34. mannyfs (Posts: 67; Member since: 11 Feb 2011)

i love u verizon

and effffff- U att! u suck.

posted on 06 Mar 2011, 04:52

35. attrox (unregistered)

dear my coverage area is bigger or whatever,
my 4g speeds are solid. I can download apps in under 2 secs, so i know you commejts are slander. I might download apps on verizon in 30 if im lucky. We never claimed that you would get 3g or 4g outside of heavily crowded areas. And verizon's conglomeration has been put together twice as long as att's of course you are going to have a larger network. Sprint has been doing wireless longer than us and we are far better than them. So watch out we are ever growing.

And my point about the maps was att's complete visible honesty about coverage. It's very detailed--go look. your coverage map shows "solid 3g" on your entire netowrk. i have had customers who switched from us come back and say their verizon 3g is no better than our edge data.

why do u assume that i did not know that verizon was switching yo gsm. Iy is my job duty to know these thing. and u only proved my point that your current network cant handle it.

15 percent of how many of verizons hand picked consumer poll. And of course when the ability to use such a feature cant be utilized properly it not going to seem fancy. But a large percent of att consumers would say that it is a must have feature. Like multitasking isnt the reason for coverage and data solidity anyway, ha! Otherwise lets gi back to edge/gprs.

once again, while you driving from norfolk to philly (which is a long trip,) if you havent planned ahead for dead zone then youte missing out on the great coverage viewer tool att offers. I mean i cant tell where my signal will be weak on yous. Sorry to keep refering back to it but you keep creating the need. And the only advantage att has claimed over you is a fater 3g network. Please it would be slander for us to say we have larger coverage. Kinda like the i can hear you now slogan. Like 90 percent of americans dont live in metro areas, and We can make up for those disadvantages with the advantages of our home solutions.

Im not worried about my job. I love how you seem ti think everyone on att has an iphone, lime the loss of iphone exclusivity will destroy us. Alot of att customers i have spoken to have switched to android anyway. And as soon as wp7 becomes perfected it will put ios under for phones just like desktops. Every company will go through hard times, and if i get layed off ill work for and authorized dealer until my position reopens. Buy i am not worried att recently doubled its sales staff. Oh and if wimax can be 4g so can hspa+. Worry about your own job cause all of he disclosure you just let out about how verizon tests its effectiveness to att could probably get you fired.

posted on 06 Mar 2011, 11:57

36. my coverage is larger than you (unregistered)

@attrox: First actually AT&T is actually older than VZW. You guys were the number one back in 2000 and you folks haven't been there since (I'm guessing here so I'm 100%) VZW started in April 2000.

These focus groups I mention take an equal amount of customers from every provider along with age group and demographics. Numbers don't lie. Just li,e the ATT iPhone sales don't lie.

I'm speaking no information that could put my job at risk. I've been with this company long before it was VZW (19 years) Every wireless provider has test people and conduct focus groups. You are clueless if you think this doesn't happen. As a matter of fact ATT has over 500 lines with VZW and I'm sure VZW has service with ATT. How else do you think we test these products?

If you go back and look at my previous posts, ATT data speeds are slightly higher over VZW most metro areas. I don't deny that. I did say that VZW covers a much larger 3G area than ATT. Its not slander, its facts. Again, it doesn't mean we cover every single part of the U.S. We do cover 97% and all is 3G. We have a backhaul of our version of 2G known as 1X in cases where service is poor and someone can't pick up enough of a 3G signal. As with your Edge network, it doesn't affect calls but definitely data speeds.

As I said earlier, I respect your dedication to your company and supporing for who you work for. Having friendly banter on a silly phone blog site isn't going to prove anything although it is fun getting the perspective from an ATT employee standpoint. Based on what you've told me matches what I've found with my team secret shopping our competitors. So my job is done. :-)

As few side notes before I go.......Android and iOS will continue to dominate the wireless industry at least for the next 12-18 months. I know most companies will introduce Windows 7 phones (I am testing one now) but I don't see them to make a big splash. RIM is losing ground quickly although they will introduce several new products this year. The playbook is a nice tablet so far but doesn't compare to the XOOM nor the I pad. And finally, lets wait for those Q1 results in late April. :-)

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