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iOS closing the gap with Android in the States says latest comScore report

0. phoneArena 02 Jun 2012, 01:42 posted on

Based on the latest data from comScore, iOS cut into Android's leading OS marketshare in the U.S. by those 13 and older using a smartphone; additionally, Samsung managed to hold on to it;s leading position as the top smartphone OEM in the States...

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posted on 04 Jun 2012, 16:52

105. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

calm down remix...nobody here reports you.. we always need an undercover troll

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 19:45

106. hepresearch (unregistered)

Holey... Moley... small world! I grew up going to the LDS church sitting on the hill above the Queensgate shopping center, on Hollywood Drive next door to the JCC. I go to the LDS church out in New Oxford now... the New Oxford Young Single-Adult (YSA) Branch. Out of curiosity, which store did your grandparents own down at the shopping center? I used to go to the theater there all the time, now its been remodeled, sold, and renamed the Frank Theaters. Been there only twice in the last three years. There is also an AT&T corporate store there now, been there just a couple of years now so far. Anyway, did you live near either Jefferson or Spring Grove?

+1 for sharing, by the way...

Sorry, it's just so rare to run into somebody on the internet, unknowingly or by accident, who happens to know about things out here in the middle of "nowheresville PA"...

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 21:35

107. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

really? i got reported again today for calling him a moron. its only ever whenever im directly talking to taco and reminding him that he is a very special little troll that I get a nasty gram in my mail. coincidence?

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 21:42 1

108. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

They owned White Jewlers. It was like the first store on the left as you went in. My uncle bought it from my grandfather and moved it down the street somewhere. Yea, tiny world dude. I used to go to the Bobs Big Boy right there all the time before it shut down. Hell I saw jurassic park for the first time in that theater. :)
I doubt you've been there (maybe passed through without realizing) but I lived in a tiny town called East Berlin out there between york and hanover (were 234 meets 194) for the bulk of my youth before moving to FL. I lived in both Jefferson (right at the circle) and Spring grove, as well as York New Salem.
Yea, I got a lot of family that still lives there, red lion, windam hills, philly, over by ski round top, and all round that area.

I can tell ya one thing, i miss the color changes in the fall. I took my wife up there for the first time a few years ago and she had never seen anything like it. Drove her through lancaster on the way to philly and she made me stop so she could take video because we happen to catch an actual barn raising and she found it fascinating. lol.

Im not familiar with the LDS church myself, but I think I know which building it is in my head. I used to get drug down to some big catholic church down down. Very pretty. Religion was never my thing though.

posted on 05 Jun 2012, 07:41

109. hepresearch (unregistered)

Awesome!!! I do remember passing the White Jewelers there, but that was some time ago. And the Bob's Big Boy has been turned into one of those big chain restaraunts, I forget which one. You know, I saw Jurassic Park in that theater, too... my parents took me and my brother to see it when I was in the 8th grade, and my mom has avoided all dinosaur-related action-movies ever since... mostly thanks to the portrayal of the velociraptors. I have been to East Berlin... my dad bought a used van up there last year, and I went on a couple dates, once upon a time, with a lady I know from church who lives up there with her parents. So, yeah, I do know about East Berlin... haha! My brother and his family live near Jefferson these days, just north of Chodorus Lake and the adjoining park area. My sister-in-law's grandmother still lives in Red Lion to this day. As for Spring Grove, well, the paper mill there still stinks to high heavens... whenever the wind blows just right, we catch a whiff of that all the way down in Shrewsbury!

I managed to live in CA for a couple years, in the bay area, and when I came back to PA I realized how much I missed the trees and the change in color of the autumn season, so I understand completely. I didn't miss the humidity, though. I also lived in Lancaster County for a little while... spent a year as the public library director in a little river town called Columbia... and had a great time there (when I was at work, and not stuck in the house with my angry angry now-ex-wife).

Yeah, not many people out east know too much about the church I go to. Out in Utah and Idaho it is like 40% of the population that shares my faith, but out here in PA we are like 1 in 1000. I was one of the only Mormon kids in my school growing up, and I got bullied and picked on for it, and for many other goofy things that kids back then considered "uncool". Oh well... but yeah, its the one at the top of the hill above the shopping center, next to the upper exit from the shopping center parking lot that winds up the hill. Most folks have seen it in passing at some point if they ever drive down Hollywood Drive regularly. I am not terribly familiar with any of the Catholic churches in the city, but the JCC and the synagogue are quite well known to me, as they sit just down the street from the LDS church there. Wow... small world indeed! Thanks so much for sharing! It is great to hear from someone who knows this place out here like I do.

posted on 05 Jun 2012, 08:09 1

110. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

ha.. thats hilarious. you stalking my life??? lolol. You ever make it over to Hanover? There was a skating rink in there that I spent a lot of my youth nights.

PA's humidity is nothing to FL's. I feel like i got a shower while I was walking the dog this morning. UGH.. and it wasnt even hot out yet. Before the hot afternoon rain its like breathing water.
Almost no one knows where EB is. I'm impressed. It used to be half the size it is now.. which is saying something. I laughed last time I drove through it, because where there used to be nothing but a big hill on the left as you go over the little bridge, is nothing but cookie cutter homes.. and they stick out so bad since the rest of the town is filled with civil war era houses.

just looked up the center on G-maps. Definitely remember that building.

posted on 05 Jun 2012, 12:34

111. hepresearch (unregistered)

Hahaha... almost seems that way! I always pass through Hanover on the way to New Oxford, so I go by there often, and have some friends there who I know from church. I don't remember ever going to a skating rink over there, but I do go to the Walk for Autism every year at the YMCA in North Hanover to volunteer time and donate money (when I have money). It is on the 16th of June this year, so I'll be there again, as usual.

If you are referring to that small metal bridge out on East Berlin Road... I have to say that every time I pass over that thing, I cringe because it is loud, rough, and rickety as all-get-out these days, no matter how slowly you try to go over the thing... I'm worried that it'll bust somebody's tires or mess up their suspension or alignment one of these days. PA roads have always been rather terrible and yet overly-numerous.

I went to FL once. I must have been there in the dry season, because on the way to Orlando from Cocoa Beach we passed an area where wildfires had jumped across the highway and burned the trees on both sides of the road. The place smelled of fire and smoke, and there was soot and ash falling from the air onto the road. It was in mid-May back in 2006, as I recall.

It really is so freaking funny that we both share memories of the York/Adams Counties region in common... if the commonalities ran any deeper, it would be just slightly creepy, too... hahaha!!!

posted on 05 Jun 2012, 15:32

112. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Where I moved after PA, was Melbourne, FL.. which is just like 20 mins south of cocoa. I spent a lot of time there chasing girls and roaming around Orlando before they started shutting the clubs down at 2am (used to be sunrise). so, you really are following me around.. lol. In 06 i was up here in Jax though, so your safe.. lol

With all the common areas It wouldnt even be surprising that we come across common friends/friends of friends.

I remember the fires your talking about. They burned for a good few days. That happens every once a while. During late fall - spring it almost never rains. It rains like clockwork all summer long. You can literally set a timer to it.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 02:19 9

2. dax0330 (Posts: 23; Member since: 01 Jun 2012)

poor 1%.. this will be gained back by android when more high end phones hit the market.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 07:44 1

23. tahnik (Posts: 189; Member since: 17 Jul 2011)

The problem is an iPhone is coming too...And we all know what happens when that happens....

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 09:27 1

30. tedkord (Posts: 13249; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Android still grows at 1.5-2 times the rate of iOS? Because that's what happened when both the 4 and 4s, Apples two biggest sellers, arrived.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 02:55 4

5. doubler86 (Posts: 320; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)

Yes and at the end of the next 3 months when the HTC One series and the Galaxy S III (the fastest selling electronic gadget of all time) you'll see how much a widening gap can get.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 10:10 1

34. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

Its all about cycles. Right now the cycle is lulling as power house smartphones for Android are still coming. Once they are out the numbers will definetely change. Further, when the new iPhone comes out, the same will occur. It will be like this for a very extended period of time.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 12:37

51. doubler86 (Posts: 320; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)

Actually that won't really happen with the new iPhone comes out, they will have a month of good traction and then Google will come out with 5 great Nexus phones. Google is making smarter business plans for this year than Apple.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 03:10 1

6. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 May 2012)

Great to see LG at 2nd place!

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 03:20 3

9. matrix_neo (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

Definitely HTC one series and Samsung galaxy s3 will really give a boost to the android market share. I'm still optimistic that android will still own a big slice of market share even if new windows phone 8 and new iphone not iphone 5, will be released. We still have back ups like the new google nexus and galaxy note. Closing the gap is inappropriate title but not surprise coz Allan wrote it, no more further comments.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 03:29 1

10. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

But...the final tally still had Android with a bigger point change than iOS. 2.2 to 1.9. Even after it went from 51% to 50%.

Does it even matter? lol.

Lets save these articles for when the iPhone 5 come out. And lets see how it is 6+ months later. Whats STILL wild is MS, WP7 still so low....after 1 and 1/2 years. Wont even count 2010.

That maybe the bigger story than Android vs. iOS.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 03:31

12. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

This is a non story to me. Couldnt edit in time....lol.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 03:29

11. gayasarafe (Posts: 25; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)

The reports would be more interesting after the release of Samsung Galaxy SIII

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 03:53 1

14. Dark4o90 (Posts: 205; Member since: 20 Feb 2011)

i think that 50.8% if very different from 31%, it's not even close, near twice the ipple share

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 04:35 4

15. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

A good news story for Apple. They keep gaining share since they've added carriers.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 05:24

17. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Ahh....forgot about that.

If there was an iPhone on Verizon in 2009, 2010...I might have had one.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 08:32 4

28. tedkord (Posts: 13249; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

If there were an iPhone on Verizon in 2007, I'd have had one. By 2009/2010, I'd have chosen an Android regardless of the iPhone availability. Not because of cost - I paid more for my Android phone than I would have the iPhone - but because it offered things I desired, which the iPhone did not (and still doesn't).

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 10:13 2

35. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

Agreed. I went from a blackberry storm 1 (no laughing) to a htc thunderbolt. LIke Android and its ability to let me change practically anything I want with it. Apple is too closed for me and I simply do not have an iTunes account at all.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 18:52

71. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

For me it was just a bad experience with Win Mo and the Omina 1. The screen on the iPhone had me sold. That and the Omnia 1 sucked so bad as a phone I almost went to AT&T thinking Verizon's service was getting bad. Turned out it was the phone....cuz I went to the Droid 1 next and it was like night n day...lol.

Capacitive screens.

IMO thats where MS went wrong, they waited too long to go to capacitive screens.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 10:26

36. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

But although there might be some wisdom to what your saying, I think you are missing a very large factor and that is the effect of Android. Marketshare aside, you are partly right that it is about profits and Apple right now makes a load of it on its products. However, a large chunk of that comes from the money and force behind their deals with carriers. But the recent and future trend is leading to an idea that carriers will no longer shoulder the burdens of Apple's high prices for their devices i.e. subsidies. Thus, the base cost for an Apple device will go up for consumers even if carriers want them badly. This is where Windows Phone and Android comes in as both are considerably cheaper to sell than the iPhone and use just as much data (which can mean even more money depending on the data plans chosen).

So its fairly clear that Apple will need to somehow address the cost of their devices going forward as it is not going to last with these carriers agreements. Furthermore, the force that Google itself is putting behind Android is something of note to as although your calculations accounted for profits and efforts by Apple, did not take into account efforts by Google. Google seems to have a hand in almost everything for strategic purposes that is almost all centered around their main cash cow of search. They are also moving into the direction that Microsoft is flirting with now of one OS to rule them all. If the growth in smartphones and tablets are to remain as steady as they have been, I think Google's residual efforts in these projects will leak into Android and put an already low barrier for entry of cost even lower. Profit wise Android will probably never make as much money for iOS as Apple but the affect of influence through marketshare and simple tech will gain them favor just as bundling Internet Explorer with Windows won Microsoft favor back at their start.

This is just a small bit of whats going on now and going forward but if you make an prediction it must take ALL factors into account.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 07:21 1

19. hepresearch (unregistered)

Last year I said we would see Apple begin to catch up to Android in growth again, and that in 18 months Apple would start to surpass the growth rate of Android devices. When you see the major market share holder slip slightly, and their next competitor rise to match their opponent's slip, this is what we call a 'hinge-point' in a differential linear system. No surprise here... in order to have Apple start to surpass Android growth by the end of 18 months from last September, the 'hinge-point' had to happen at 9 months, which is roughly right now. From now on, I suspect we will see a gradual decline in Android share, although bubbles of growth and anomalies are quite possible along the way, but the trend should still be there until Apple's device sales start to pass Android's sales about 9 months from now. After that, on to iOS dominance. By 2018, 3 out of every 4 US handsets will be an iPhone, and in other parts of the world I suspect that Android could remain the champion with a mild challenge from Windows Phone nipping at its heels.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 07:38 1

21. matrix_neo (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

From now on, I suspect we will see a gradual decline in Android share, although bubbles of growth and anomalies are quite possible along the way, but the trend should still be there until Apple's device sales start to pass Android's sales about 9 months from now.... Really??!! I think it will happen if apple release at least 2 new iphone this year but even if they release 2 phones, just an incremental upgrade. Screen size increased and higher ppi maybe the incremental upgrades. Let's see after 9 months but I doubt it will never happen, windows phone 8 will eat apple share, not android.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 07:48 1

25. hepresearch (unregistered)

I am fairly certain that Apple is at the top of this food-chain, not the other way around.

The money points to Apple, plain and simple... and while things like market share and sales figures are decent indicators of power in the marketplace, profit margin and cash-on-hand alone are louder than all of that other stuff combined.

A majority of comsumers do not care about better specs, or the poor Chinese laborers at FoxxConn throwing themselves out of windows because they are being treated like livestock... all they care about is getting a product that works smoothly and simply, does only what they need it to do and nothing more, that they can afford on whatever their budget is, and that isn't a cheap copy of something better. Where I live, the iPhone is the only phone that seems to fit the bill for people, as rediculous as this notion actually is. A lot of people are figuring out that PC's are very powerful, too powerful in fact, and that they do not need all the hassle of a PC when they can just get an iPhone. I do not agree with them, but hey, it's a free country! Well... for the moment...

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 08:55

29. roscuthiii (Posts: 2231; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)

hepreseach has a point... which is made stronger now that the iPhone is available on more carriers, even prepaid carriers.
Don't really care though as long as there's competition and viable alternatives. I'm more concerned about what benefits me, the consumer, which is all any consumer should be concerned about.

I just don't understand people living vicariously through a brand.

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