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iOS 9 might be near-impossible to jailbreak

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iOS 9 might be near-impossible to jailbreak
Apple’s World Wide Developer Conference, WWDC, is next month, and since we expect it to remain the orchestrated and timely event that it is, we will most certainly see the introduction of the next generation of iOS, presumably to be called iOS 9.

For this new iteration of iOS, Apple is reportedly putting a much more comprehensive effort behind security for the mobile operating system (as well as for OS X).

Apple has never been a fan of the jailbreak community. Reports are surfacing that Cupertino is “particularly enthusiastic” with the progress it has made so far with a technology called Rootless. This feature is said to prevent any type of access to certain fail systems in an iPhone, iPad, or Mac (though on the Mac it can be disabled), even for administrators.

It has been vulnerabilities in iOS that have enabled the enthusiasts to exploit the platform and jailbreak their iPhones or iPads. Rootless apparently closes those doors completely.

You know how they say, “Never say never,” well we are not about to start saying impossible, but if these reports turn out to be true, it could mark the beginning of a tough road for jailbreakers. If Rootless is primed to make a debut at WWDC next month, it will be interesting to see how it is presented by Apple.

via: Redmond Pie

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posted on 23 May 2015, 03:58 13

1. sgodsell (Posts: 4312; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


If your into jailbreaks. Then there are much better alternatives to iOS to get your hack on. Not to mention jailbreaks are still very limited and have lots of restrictions still.

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:25

22. gaming64 (unregistered)


There are more restrictions and limitations on iOS 7 and above than iOS 6 and below, which is why it is hard to make a decent jailbreaking tool. The only decent one I use is Pangu.

posted on 23 May 2015, 07:58 2

63. neela_akaash (Posts: 1219; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


That's the only thing i like about iOS i.e. Zero tolerance on piracy and very good at security. But its sad to see that these security things are causing lots of limitiations in iOS. And these limitiations makes most of the people unhappy and dis-satisfaction just like me.

posted on 23 May 2015, 11:03

81. waddup121 (unregistered)


Well, Justin bieber's lyrics may be coming true.

posted on 23 May 2015, 17:20

91. techperson211 (Posts: 1280; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)


Near to impossible but still possible. We all know how it turns out to the so called secured touch id. They need to learned from BB in terms of security.

posted on 23 May 2015, 04:11 9

2. AlikMalix (Posts: 6948; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Every single iteration of iOS was "close the loop on jailbreak" "will be impossible" etc. It's the same as "this year iPhone will flop" "no way Apple can sell more than before" etc.

At least this year it's "might be" "near-impossible" sounds like "still can be" jailbroken.

But, I digress, is there any point to jailbreak iPhones? All the popular jailbreaks are included in iOS now - widgets, keyboards, tweaks, Control Center, etc...

I always wanted to try it, but only on my old iPhones. But when it come to get a new one, my old one was still worth too much not to sell..

posted on 23 May 2015, 04:59 7

14. xperian (Posts: 371; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


people jailbreak iphones for piracy

posted on 23 May 2015, 06:08 10

39. iOrwell (Posts: 3; Member since: 23 May 2015)


It's rather the reverse. Why should Apple artificially limit the consumers rights to acces their own devices.

Ask yourself what the point is to not have full root/admin access to a device you have payed lots of money for. I rather buy hardware that don't treat me as a child who needs supervision, guidance and control from the big brother Apple.

posted on 23 May 2015, 06:33 3

48. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3172; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


I do not know all the benefits of a jailbreak, but widgets on the homescreen is pretty cool. Also setting a different browser as default can be handy. But I'm sure there are tons of apps that are cool to have on a jailbroken iPhone. I am thinking of jailbreaking my business phone (which normally isn't allowed, but hey I'm the system admin anyway lol)

posted on 23 May 2015, 09:48 1

72. atlvideoguy (Posts: 66; Member since: 24 Feb 2012)


Not everyone jailbreaks for piracy. I jailbroke iPhones in the past to run intelliID which would tell you a name of whose calling you. Also used mywi when flying to share my purchased gogo internet with my laptop if I needed to view a document on my laptop. My3G allowed me to watch Amazon Instant Video over my cellular data, since there was a wifi requirement. all of the apps and services I paid for.

posted on 23 May 2015, 10:20 4

78. tedkord (Posts: 13040; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


That's not why they do it, though Apple would like everyone to believe that. They even tried to criminalize jailbreaking.

posted on 23 May 2015, 11:36 2

83. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)


I have to agree.

Apple is a rather incompetent company when it comes to doing anything hard and difficult like programming or engineering.

Didn't a former NSA employee mock Apple's crappy security recently?

posted on 23 May 2015, 15:19

88. rihel_95 (Posts: 301; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)


You can install any paid games without any money (piracy) after jailbreaking. For ex, Android allows sideloading of apps (directly installing an app using its apk) so u can virtually get any paid app for free. But in iOS, its not possible without jailbreaking.

posted on 23 May 2015, 19:24

93. Hitokage (Posts: 103; Member since: 01 Mar 2015)


Eh, half true @android. Non rooted Androids TYPICALLY can't bypass license checks (there's a way to do it on rooted ones though). I think iOS can install a few apps outside of the appstore without jailbreak, I can't confirm this due to not owning an iOS device though. I want to say one of my friends did it on his iPad for emulators, not sure if he's jailbroken though

posted on 23 May 2015, 04:13 25

3. Predator1701 (Posts: 109; Member since: 28 Oct 2014)


Why waste your time on ios, if you wan't more control go for android.

posted on 23 May 2015, 04:32 5

6. CAMBODIANPATRIOT (banned) (Posts: 226; Member since: 10 May 2015)


Sorry, I don't want bug, lag, malware and fragmentation from Android ;)

posted on 23 May 2015, 04:41 45

8. bendgate (unregistered)


Of course you do. Your brain has more bug, lag, malware and fragmentation than anything in the world. Why would you want more?

posted on 23 May 2015, 04:57 9

13. AlikMalix (Posts: 6948; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Control over what exactly? Fonts and icons...? If I had android on my phone, I'd desperately try to make it look as clean, as animated, as blurred, as sharp as iOS7/8.

First thing I'd do is get rid of bloatware --- oops cant do that.
So, first thing I'd do is modify all my apps permissions --- oops cant do that either.
So, first thing I'd do is set up my phone to suspend unused apps in background to make sure it doesnt die if I left it with 20% battery overnight --- oops Greenify is only for Rooted Android, cant do that.
Ok, ok, first thing I'd do is use my phone to track my kid, you know a parent thing to do... --- oops no Find My Friends alternative like iOS.
Ok, forget it at least my new Android phone has Lollipop 5.0, and those memory leaks gone as soon as I update to 5.1.1 --- oh wait...

Yeah, you got control... sure buddy...

I have control, I also have control over which apps (even native) appear on my daughters iPad, I control what she sees, and what she doesnt - from my phone. I control my house, my car, my business, my bank, and I have an assistant pre-installed to help me with everything on my phone...

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:11 16

16. Ordinary (Posts: 2415; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


You can get rid of bloatware by just disabling them
You dont need Greenify for that, there is a option in Developer settings (Dont keep activities and Background process limit so check that before saying something)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsp.android.friendlocator&hl=hr

Memory leaks are only on Nexus devices, others use different image format

Multi-user is available since 4.3 android

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:15 18

19. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1485; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


What a jail broken iPhone can be done with an unrooted Android phone and much more with rooted Android phone.
And you can make Android looks simple if you wanted. Android is the best of you want to customize your phone. Android is the windows PC in the mobile world. There is some features which iPhone has exclusively but Android has more in my opinion.
Android users want customization, awesome multitasking, an open ecosystem( in short a mini PC) etc etc
Apple users want a closed ecosystem with all Apple service united. A simpler consistent UI etc etc
Both has their own advantages and disadvantages.
But I agree to the original comment more freedom = Android because it is more open source then Apple's OS. Its a fact, open source give more freedom.

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:17 6

20. AlikMalix (Posts: 6948; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


... wait I'm not done!

I have control on what apps are allowed and not allowed to do on my phone, to my facebook account, to my cloud, to my photos (on device and PC)...

I have control over which servises I want to use: Google's or Apple's.

I have control over which language I want everything to be, including Siri, listening and reply, dictation, and reading...

I have control on every tracking capablity on my phone, wheather it's for notifications, location based reminders, location based apps, maps, location based photos/media. I have control over what Siri, keyboard, and maps should know, learn, and access within various stages of security.

I'm sure some of these things you may have control of too, but dont say iOS users have no control... I always say, some people buy devices based on what they put in it, some buy based on what they get out of it. I like iOS. I get it, Android has their own tricks... But just because most people use iOS for its simplicity - does not mean that there's nothing beyond it's surface - iOS goes deep, if you're into that sort of thing.

Recently I discovered that Siri has a dipository for information just like Cortana (and it was there all along). Adding custom fields under contacts, including your own allows Siri to know everything about you, where you go to shop, fun, etc., your business info, private info, you name it. Apple does not venture deep into every feature - to present iOS as a simple, friendly UI... and that's why all people buy it with confidence...

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:22

21. gaming64 (unregistered)


Because I prefer iOS? I don't have to worry about control anyway once I jailbreak my iPad. What's your problem?

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:29 12

23. vincelongman (Posts: 4832; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Bloatware
-iPhones have as much bloatware as Nexus devices
-Bloatware can be disabled (no root needed)
-Bloatware can be removed (root needed)
Apps permissions
-Download App Opps (needs root)
Background apps
-Just disable apps from running in background (no need root)
-Or use Battery Saver (no need root)
-Or just uninstall or disable them (no need root)
-Or use Greenify (no need root)
Find My Friends to stalk my son
-If I really wanted that I could use Android Device Manager for that
Lollipop's memory leaks
-Is basically already fixed in 5.1
-Probably completely fixed in 5.1.1, time will tell

No offence, but I'm extremely happy I'm not your son/daughter
You seem like a control freak, especially for stalking your son

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:29 4

24. zacsaturday (Posts: 221; Member since: 09 May 2014)


ohhh.. shots fired

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:32 9

26. Ordinary (Posts: 2415; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


I can say without making a long text Google Now is the king here just by using Google search engine and learns faster than any other voice-search engine since more people are using it.

Sure iOS can go deep in customization but Android is simply much better in that.

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:36 7

29. Ordinary (Posts: 2415; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/969/d9q75iv.gif

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:36 3

30. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1485; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


I'm sure By control he meant deep control on software. What you mentioned is basic control all most all OSs have. You cannot control permissions of each and every apps of your phone. Like denying access of an app to not read your contact etc. I know some of these controls/functions are irrelevant to you and that may be the reason you prefer iOS but still there are people who wants these kind of control.
IPhone have some control but Android has more. This is coming from a user of neither of these OSs but WP.

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:41 6

31. singhkaran9830 (unregistered)


Do you even know anything about an open source project!!
Sure changing icons and fonts would be a huge leap in mobile industry to an Apple user but in android there's much more to do.

"First thing I'd do is get rid of bloatware" Root your device and you can.
Even on iOS you need to jailbreak to remove bloatware like apple watch app etc.
OOPS! OOPS! OOPS! OOPS! OOPS! OOPS! .......

With android you can:
USE BLUETOOTH!want to take a pdf from a friend instantly?get it via BLUETOOTH!
Want to take movies and songs from another PC to yours?Copy in your Android device,paste it back in your PC.No need of iTunes and authorization of device via apple ID.
Transfer files between several computers,no authorization limit of max 5 PC.

After root you can:Change ROM,Custom Kernel,Modify System UI,Apply overlays,change boot animation,modify a stock app(decompile>edit>recompile)etc. etc. etc.

Atleast we don't have to deal with lag while typing,iOS 8's vulnerability which puts iDevices into reboot or black screen,FC of apps etc.iOS8 was even a bigger disaster in bugs in comparison to lollipop.

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:41

32. AlikMalix (Posts: 6948; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Last time I checked there's hell of a bloat on Samsung phone which is the closest to iOS options. I haven't seen one android phone get 5.1.1 and most don't have 5.1 that are on lollipop - but moats phones aren't even on kitkat, but jb (which is another Problem.

There's absolutely no bloat on iOS. But I can disable apps too the native ones with restrictions menu and accessibility menu. Background tasks - so on some androids you can disable that - with iOS there's plenty of background tasks all the time, but it's smart - it knows what to suspend and what to allow - and does not require constant intervention just to manage resources.

posted on 23 May 2015, 05:42 5

33. singhkaran9830 (unregistered)


App Opps doesn't requires root.

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