iOS 7 now running on 74% of North American Apple devices
14. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
As in not being able to revert to IOS 6...?
36. taikucing (unregistered)
No other choice. My brother's iphone 4 is installed with ios7. I notice a lag when scrolling.
6. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
But what percentage has all the features? NOT anywhere near 74%... iOS7 on 74% means less when siri doesn't work on anything older than 4S. This is a bs stat to try and claim superiority over fragmentation and android. iPhone 4 which was the newest model up until late 2011 can't do siri, so iOS7 on 74% means diddly
8. Ninetysix (Posts: 2340; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Let me ask you this. Do you want to get an update with missing features because of hardware limitations or you don't want to get an update at all? There are a lot of capable Android devices that should be able to run 4.1+. Did their manufacturer give them an update?
9. Sauce (unregistered)
Boom goes the dynamite. Waiting for appledoesnt's reply. There's nothing on TV so, make this worth following guys!
11. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Let me ask you a question, when someone buys a phone, do they buy it because of what it currently can do? Or do they buy it for that they think the phone might get with an update? I bet all those owners with lower android versions are still enjoying their experience regardless. As a matter of fact many android phones with older versions have features the current android version does not posses, can I say the same thing about apples offering? The answer is No, only nerds and ifans brag about updates because updates is barely one of the little things they can brag about
16. Ninetysix (Posts: 2340; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Good for them for not wanting new features, bug fixes, security patches.
37. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
what new features of ios8 you like the most? oh yeah non because there are none so far and the bug fixes are so good the older models performance becomes worse than the previous version, worse case scenario your phone gets rendered useless with an update made to improve the experience.
12. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
Well, in the case of the 4 and 4s, I'd rather not have the IOS 7 update. I don't want an update that makes my phone lag when opening the mail app.
19. bucky (Posts: 2473; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
My wife's 4s is pretty much lag free. The only thingy I see missing out of the features is airdrop which I have yet to use on my 5s or my air.
30. darkkjedii (Posts: 20111; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
He should go to bed, with his thumb in his mouth after you schooled him yo.
34. vincelongman (Posts: 4164; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
What hardware limitations?
Google Now works quite well on my iPod Touch 4, so Siri should work fine on the iPhone 4.
The iPhone 4 & 4S have wi-fi, but can't use AirDrop.
Are you saying the iPhone 4's & 4S's cameras or CPUs are inadequate to handle Camera filters.
And is the iPhone 4's camera to poor for taking Panoramas.
40. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
I have no issues with iOS7 on 74%, cool, neato. I do however have issues when this is somehow compared as some major boon against Android fragmentation. IOS is fragmented too. This is proof. As late 2011 device doesn't do a software feature named Siri, umm, kinda their biggest innovation right? Well that little app was free on iPhone 4 until apple bought the company that made it, pulled the free app, waited almost a year and a half before launching half baked new siri and then, the kicker? You can't use it on iPone 4, just the newer, shinier, incremental upgrade that was the iPone 4S. Apple chose to fragment to sell more phones, go Apple!!!
49. sum182 (Posts: 229; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
If it were really "hardware limitations" then yes. But sadly no, apples picks and chooses. There was no reason the 4 shouldn't have gotten siri, hackers proved it could run it fine. And there was no reason for not all of them to get turn by turn gps....If anything, it should tell you something about their poor hardware.
41. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
How are the official version updates going on the Nexus S?
The iPhone 4 came out 6 months before the Nexus S. Anyone with an iPhone 4 should be thankful they are getting any official updates at all.
There's a single core 800Mhz processor in there. And its made from 4 year old SoC architecture. Stop whining.
42. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
dont care, nobody really does except iClones claiming superiority with no fragmentation (look ma 74% have brand new iOS7!!! andoroid is the suxors!!!) all the while their 2 year old iPone4 can't do the only major innovation apple has created since iP1, siri, which someone else made in the first place FOR THE IpHONE4 which now it doesn't work for lol and pathetic!
43. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
What nobody cares about is a poorly constructed response like you just delivered.
45. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
listen toaster, don't get your panties in a bunch, my points are valid even if iFollowers don't get it
46. suneeboy (Posts: 201; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)
@appledoesnt what are you talking about? Who is boasting about fragmentation? You are the only one I see on this thread spewing nonsense. The article is just stating a fact. It has nothing to do with Android or any other OS at all.
2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
The iOS6 holdouts could be waiting for a stable release of iOS7 - maybe when it gets to v. 7.1.4. I personally know 3 of the holdouts, and that is why they have deferred upgrading.
4. GeekMovement (Posts: 2155; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
That's nice, but would have been nicer if iOS7 was more stable.
10. Sauce (unregistered)
"More stable" lol.
Let me tell you this. Out of all the weeks owning an iPhone 5s since launch, it has only restarted on me once or twice.
Not let me ask you this. Are you releasing ignorance out of your mouth because that's what everyone else says? Or because you honestly feel it is not stable enough?
Don't be a shyeep.
13. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
I think he means stable as in fewer PNG glitches, overlapping dialers and BSODs.
15. GeekMovement (Posts: 2155; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
I'm sure you've seen that there has been numerous articles on the issues and bugs with iOS7. Knowing Apple, that's pretty disappointing and just seems like a let down compared to previous updates as they were known for the solid fluid "just works" operating system.
Plus your new iPhone 5S already started restarting on its own? That's even more shocking to me. My Note 2 hasn't restarted on me after owning it for months.
Yes, I'm being honest and my comments are always honest. I think the iPhone is a very acceptable model and Apple creates brilliant products, but iOS7 (aside from some aesthetically pleasing updates such as the transparency/blur feature) has been quite a disappointment. I have big expectations from Apple next year when they release their next iPhone and next iOS(8?) update.
17. Ninetysix (Posts: 2340; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Even Kitkat 4.4 had a lot of bugs. You just don't hear about them since Apple is a better topic :)
23. GeekMovement (Posts: 2155; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
It's not that surprising that android would have bugs after all many people already believe that Android is a buggy operating system though in my experience it has been pretty smooth. I haven't used 4.4 Kitkat yet (I use iOS7 on my iPad4), but as far as I know Android has been constantly becoming more stable little by little and optimized for many variety of handsets coming from different manufacturers. Apple needs to just focus on their own iPhones and iPads, but to see it with this many bugs and issues compared to their previous builds is sad.
After all, I'm not comparing which OS is more buggy, I'm just hoping that Android, iOS, and any other OS like WP is improving from their last build and is becoming more stable after each update, but iOS7 has been having so many problems that Apple needed to release multiple more updates to fix whatever issues it had. I hope you understand what I'm trying to explain, it's not an android vs iOS thing.
26. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Looks like an exchange bug and some weird non existant problem of FPS in video playback.
Android police found some areas that needed polish.
No major messed up wallpapers here, move along.
18. Sauce (unregistered)
Well said. I have been defeated.
22. stealthd (unregistered)
As someone actually using iOS 7, I wouldn't characterize it as buggy or a disappointment. Your opinion is based entirely on second hand experiences, you have no idea how many people those bugs actually affect. If you're basing your entire opinion on how many phonearena articles there are you should remember that Apple articles make phonearena more money than anything else. Remember when there was all that hullabaloo about a lockscreen bug on iOS that gave people limited access to the phone without needing the PIN/password? The articles on that got so many clicks and comments saying how insecure an iPhone was. Then it was found the GS3 and Note 2 had a similar bug, except worse because the lockscreen would be completely disabled leaving the whole phone wide open, and no one cared. Apparently bugs are only a big deal when it happens on iOS.
24. GeekMovement (Posts: 2155; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
My opinion on iOS7 is based on my own experience (yes, I use iOS7 too, surprise!) along with the many articles online to further my opinion. You almost make it sound like I'm trying to purposely bash on iOS because I prefer android, but I can tell you that's not the case.
"Apparently bugs are only a big deal when it happens on iOS."
And it's called to the front page of many tech sites, do you know why? iOS is widely not known for bugs and with each iOS update, it should be delivering a more stable and a more fluid experience for its users. iOS7 was bug filled compared to its previous update in my experience and according to many articles to confirm it. As for the bottom half of your post, I'll repeat myself and say again that this is not an iOS vs android which OS has more bugs argument. Android jellybean (current build I use) has been a huge improvement in terms of fluid user experience over gingerbread and ice cream sandwich. The important part is not which OS is better, but are the operating systems from apple and google getting better with each update.
44. stealthd (unregistered)
Funny how you didn't mention having any experience with iOS 7 until it was called into question, seems like that would have been relevant earlier.
Also funny how you say it's not a "which OS has more bugs argument" after you bring up how your Note 2 doesn't restart.
Sounds like you can't keep your story straight.
47. GeekMovement (Posts: 2155; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
I admit that I brought the Note 2 into my explanation which would make it a comparison to the iPhone that restarted on that user. Let me ask you this, if I were to take back the sentence about the Note 2, would that have changed the comment that iOS7 isn't as stable as previous iOS versions? I hope you understand the point of what I was trying to explain since the first post.
Sounds like you have no more to say about the iOS7 software itself so trying to find errors in my comments would be all that you have left to do. Good job, you succeeded, here's a cookie.
Also I apologize for confusing you, I will make it clear to everyone on PA that I own an iPad4 running on iOS7 next time I make an opinion about it.
25. av911 (Posts: 190; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
"Out of all the weeks owning an iPhone 5s since launch, it has only restarted on me once or twice. "
You're content with an OS that actually restarts on you? Typical.
The ONLY time my Android devices restart is because it has a custom rom.
27. Sauce (unregistered)
First world problems. Spoiled brat.
38. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
I just performed a hard reset on my wife's iPhone 5 because her phone starting turning off by itself. It only started once we updated her to iOS 7. Just look at the thread below. I'm hoping that the reset took care of the problem or it might be a bad battery in a 14 month old phone. Something is not right with both pictures.
5. spectrums (Posts: 127; Member since: 14 Nov 2013)
But, Android Keep Dominate Mobile Os.
Android Still Kill Ios :)
20. bucky (Posts: 2473; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
Obviously, it's put on anything with a screen, whether it can run properly or not.
48. casualavi (Posts: 48; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)
And after that, Apple copies the same "anything" on it's newer OS versions..
7. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
So when will a survey ask how many people want to go back to io6 but can't because apple won't let them?
21. bucky (Posts: 2473; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
Do you feel the same way about those android updates completely messing up android phones? No, you will take it and still think the crashes, reboots, incompatibility with apps and crappy battery life is acceptable because it's android.
I honestly do like android but the tables have turned in regards to who are the real sheep.
28. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
"Do you feel the same way about those android updates completely messing up android phones?"
When did that happen?
"No, you will take it and still think the crashes, reboots, incompatibility with apps and crappy battery life is acceptable because it's android."
Don't have any of those issues either. Meanwhile, if I don't like what I have, Google will allow me to change it back on my Nexus devices. Apple will never.
Maybe you should try thinking of new sterotypical things to complain about? Oh I know, I'll try to be stupid and say ios6 maps still sucks.
29. dspkblympkbl (Posts: 51; Member since: 23 May 2013)
Apple's success with their phones and OS is undeniable. So that's that. Articles like these I don't trust too much though because, as I've said before, they started to shutdown ios 6 like a month before 7 was released.
35. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
And yet Obama can't use iPhone. What a pity ...