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iOS 6 “fragmentation” detailed: which device gets what

0. phoneArena 13 Jun 2012, 08:27 posted on

“Fragmentation” has been a word heavily loaded against Android and a term a bit too broad for our liking. It’s true that software updates on Android devices…

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posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:18 5

10. MEeee (Posts: 353; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Remixfa, if I can write and talk like you, I can climb to the top. I just love reading your comments. I still have Gingerbread on my Evo 3D and I don't really care about the ICS update. It's still way better than the boring iOS.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:19 2

11. iWallE (Posts: 48; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)


One of the best posts I've read recently! Very nicely said and very accurate.
To prove the point - just take a closer look at the Galaxy S II ICS update - it looks and feels almost the same and most people won't even notice some of the added functionality. Sony's promo pictures and videos show no difference in UI at all between the Gingerbread-running Xperia S and the ICS miro, tipo, etc. For most users the OS version doesn't really matter
The bigger thing about this news, I believe, is that Apple is no longer afraid to stray from its uber-streamlined ways in order to offer more functions and devices at different price points.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:45 1

21. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Remixfa i just read your post and it was pretty fair. I can agree with alot of what you said. +1 for u:)

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:17 2

49. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


this is the remix i know!!! very fair statement...

good post sir

+1

oh, and keep the funny jokes at Taco going... HAHAHA

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:27 2

55. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lol. thanks guys. :)

I told you before, I am generally pretty even handed except when dealing with trolls. In order to counter act them sometimes you have to pull hard in the other direction to try to get them to the middle. Sad fact of life.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:51 2

65. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


well honestly i didnt read it all . because he has said it before... I will say not his best work . but fair... nonetheless. sorry I dont do thumbs up.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:58

67. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


lol gallitoking I love your review on remixfa's post. It was very informative. I do thumbs up & I will give you one & remixfa's epic post one too. lol

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:10

72. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lol..
OK,
so.. what is my best work, gallito? :)

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:29 3

74. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


when you explain the exynos chip.. and how it worked.. me not knowing nothing about it. I understood most of it. so now I have an idea about it.. so yes that was to me the best.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:51 2

81. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


aww thanks :)

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 13:31 3

85. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Wait was that what I think it is?

Was that a...... moment you 2 had? Can an Android fan & an Apple fan both coexist?

Dude there are 3 pigs flying information outside of my building. lol

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 13:34 1

86. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


gallito is an OK guy outside of these boards. lol. We just like to mess with each other inside the boards. :)

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 14:04

88. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


I know, the regulars love to go at it. We are all guilty as charged. It's like the equivalent of pranking each other! lol

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 14:33 2

90. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


he still a troll.. nothing changes that

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 15:04

92. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


If we keep calling each other trolls eventually one of us will move to the nearest bridge & start making people answer riddles or just asking for plain old money to cross. Or we will start to eat them a'la zombies. lol

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 00:29

104. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


alright... for.. 20 bux..
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak...

har har ??? :)

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 16:25 1

96. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


and your still taco's chicken headed yes man.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:06 3

4. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


No really cares about fragmentation except fans clutching at straws to find something against android. In most cases fragmentation means a higher spec device will have slightly better features,its impossible to name an electrical product these days which doesn't have different level entry points and price ranges,for the most part this is actually of huge benefit for people to find something within their budget range.

Ios always had a level of fragmentation despite ridiculous claims its hasn't and its the general effort of apple trying not to push the boat with upgrades to prevent fragmentation has meant the los platform has progressed incrementally since day one

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:11 3

7. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


it has always been fragmented. its just a double standard. iOS6 isnt the first iOS to not give full features to older sets. They all did that. You dont see Siri on an i4 or 3gs. They give a bug fix with a few extra features to the older sets and call it the new "iOS", when in reality its a fragmented version. Before they installed OTA updatating, everyone was on different sub versions of different OS's because most people were not regularly plugging into itunes to check for the newest update.

The only issue it ever caused was a bit of app compatibility. iOS is no different than Android when it comes to a spectrum of OS versions being used. The only difference is that its fanbase obeys its glorious leader when he says " android is fragmented, not us". Really if it wasnt for the half truths from Apple and fanboy mudsliging, the issue of "fragmentation", would have never gotten 1/3rd of its publicity. It never did before and its always been there.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:10

6. iWallE (Posts: 48; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)


So, we're getting closer to direct competition between iOS and Android (meaning their offerings are growing more alike) - Android gets prettier and more streamlined, while iOS grows additional functionality. Apple offers maps, while Google broadens its content store. Everyone borrows from the success of the other.
The big question is whether iOS will attract more users or lose some of its fanbase as Apple sacrifices some of its no-compromise approach in exchange for broadening its lineup of products and services. The process has already started - offering two iPad and three iPhone models simultaneously, differrentiating features between devices, releasing beta products... Expansion beyond a certain point requires compromise with quality (as demonstrated by Toyota in the recent years). It will be intersting to see where Apple draws the line. If they erode their premium halo, they have no chance to compete with companies like Samsung and even the deeply shaken Sony, which produce most of their gadgets in-house and offer a wide range of peripheral products and accessories.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:17

9. theoak (Posts: 324; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


I was hoping for turn by turn on my iPhone 4. Mind you, my new iPad will get that and Siri.

I was also hoping for FaceTime over cellular. Again, I get that with my new iPad.

Worse case scenario, I get the TomTom app for my i4, with lane assist, and the other goodies. It will still be cheaper than upgrading to a 4S or the new iPhone this fall.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:35

17. xtian1103 (Posts: 363; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)


google should sue apple. ios rips off android's patented fragmentation!

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:40

18. miguel6632 (Posts: 21; Member since: 25 May 2012)


facetime over 3g =fail looks choppy and lags way too much. the thing about apple every update they release for the older models slow the phones up way too much people always complain about that and its true ive witnessed it myself. they break your device so u have to get a new one lol

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:53

25. hltechie (unregistered)


Dang it... no Siri for the iPad 2 :(

Oh well...

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 10:33

36. Watchmanz (Posts: 12; Member since: 01 May 2012)


All operating systems are fragmented to a degree. Look at all the different versions of Windows or iOS. Fragmentation is a common way of introducing new features for newer devices, and eradicating old features that didn't work well. The only difference is that most people accept fragmentation as a normal part of operating system development. It's only the iPhone fanboys that use it as an accusation against Android. Now we see their operating system is just as fragmented, so their argument becomes futile.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:33

57. ibap (Posts: 765; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)


I am not a huge Apple fan, but I own an original iPad (bought used) which is now abandoned by Apple -

Gee, is it surprising the iPads don't have the features particularly devised for phones? This table labels those the same way as other features, which is not a fair way to tag them.

Also, the table seems to ignore the first iPhones. How convenient.

Could it be that the extent of evolutionary improvement for Android has been greater than for the iOS sphere?

When your mode of transport is a bicycle, and you upgrade to a car, is it an issue that the bike doesn't go as fast?

The real issue is all the Apple fans who are trying to think of a way of defending their OS of choice from the comments they've made against Android. Who cares? Backward compatibility is nice, until it limits your forward movement.

As for delayed Android updates - this is a carrier issue, for the most part. Probably a good argument for the equivalent of unlocked phones, but our major carriers are not going to let that revenue stream go.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:36

60. johnbftl (Posts: 281; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)


I love how itards biggest gripe with Android is always fragmentation. Fragmentation only occurs because of carriers. Google supplies the source code for all versions of Android on its website. Here's the G1 running ICS:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4A82ft5pw&feature=youtube_gdata_player This OS was built to do whatever the hell you want with it. You want an OS version your carrier hasn't updated you to? Root your phone and install it. Oh and guess what? You don't have to go to court to earn the right to root or "jailbreak" it without voiding the warranty. Don't worry, Google won't try sue you for doing it. This is a stupid argument that has no base and I'm tired of hearing about it. Apple customers just want everything given to them without having to think or do any work rather than actually learning how your phone works.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:46 3

63. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I'm going to go on record an explain to the android hater camp.

This is not fragmentation when it comes to features the older devices can't handle. Apple still supports those devices. I mean the 3GS is a full 3 years old and still getting updates and new features. Of course it can't handle some due to hardware (no front camera for FaceTime is one example)

Now there are a couple features that it appears shouldn't be held back. iPad 2 can handle Siri and FaceTime over 3G, but looks like isn't getting either. That I don't like.

Android phones don't get long term support. Sometimes they don't get ANY sw updates. There's phones that Re perfectly capable of handling all of ICS and don't have it at all. Also Google doesn't do updates for older devices that have hardware limitations.

As much as you guys want to bash Apple and praise android you have to admit this is an advantage for Apple.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:58 3

66. johnbftl (Posts: 281; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)


Again, Google doesn't push the updates, the carriers do. Google supplies the source code for all OS versions. If you want it, download it and install it to ANY Android phone.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:12 3

73. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


do you know which handsets are ICS capable and never going to get it? why there is a cut off on some and not others? Handsets dont get the android upgrade unless they can get 100% of the update.. not 75% or 50% like apple does with the older models.

Its not as cut and dry in the android world as it is in the apple world. You take the good with the bad. choice leads to more options. Not all options are always forward compatible.

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