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iOS 6 “fragmentation” detailed: which device gets what

0. phoneArena 13 Jun 2012, 08:27 posted on

“Fragmentation” has been a word heavily loaded against Android and a term a bit too broad for our liking. It’s true that software updates on Android devices…

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posted on 13 Jun 2012, 08:30 13

1. wendygarett (unregistered)


Wow thanks Victor... You and Michael understand our feelings as an ios user... :)

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 15:29 3

94. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14193; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Actually most iDevices get two updates. Timely updates. Android, you get nothing but a phone full of bugs after six months to a year.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 08:49 22

2. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Interesting what now Apple fans will say about 'fragmentation' ?

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:23 4

13. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


If this is considered fragmentation then that is a good thing for ios and here is why. Since apple can hold back on features on there os that older devices can't handle that means they can push updates to their older devices whereas in android you would get a laggy update or none if that happens. You tell me what you rather have. So android isn't fragmented (and fragmentation is good) its differentiated to a high degree causing problems for devices not on the base verision of the os supported by google. Sure apple abused this as an iphone 4 can handle facetime over 3g but there trying to push new devices and make money also. There a company afterall.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:28 28

14. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Apple fans attitude:

Android 'fragmentation' = Bad

iOS 'fragmentation' = Good

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:44 8

20. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Here is Apple's take on this:
"Do as I say, but don't do as I do".

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:49 1

23. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


PFirst of all I am no where close to an apple fan I have owned more android devices then ios ones. I love android and ios but i love different things about them. However this board is slanted android so i may come off as a "apple fan" but i am anything but. My friends all think i am a android fan as they are apple slanted.
Second of all I don't get how that cliche applies as apple does push updates.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 10:13 5

29. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I don't say that you are Apple fan. :)

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:05 1

46. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Well post 14 appeared that way lmao

posted on 14 Jun 2012, 12:26 1

105. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I just say what will say Apple fans, but I didn't said that you are an Apple fan. ;)

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 13:38 2

87. HTCFreak (Posts: 156; Member since: 17 Jul 2010)


No, only taco's attitude :p

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:31 17

15. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I see we're now iRationalizing fragmentation. One day, if iPhones suddenly stop working en masse, you'll see people on forums stating how wonderful it is that Apple cares enough about its customers to want them to get off the phone and get out and exercise.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:41 2

19. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


You see i make a serious point and you come back at me with rubish. Considering ios is updating devices for 4 whole years and android if your lucky you get 2 and wait 8 months for that update this is an area ios is clearly superior. I don't claim ios is a superior os but updates have been fantastic. Its one reason ios users are so satisfied.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 10:30 2

34. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I apologize if I came across nasty, I mistook you for another Taco or Gallito.

That said, I disagree. Fragmentation is fragmentation. It's either good or bad, depending on your point if view. It has the same effects regardless if platform - minor app issues. It can't be a bad thing on one platform, and good on another.

If Apple is leaving out features in some devices, apps which use those features won't work. That is the same fragmentation as Android.

The four year thing also isn't true. The iPhone 4 didn't get Siri 18 months after it was released. The original iPad isn't 4 years old, and its getting a castrated version of iOS6. If things are left out, its not the same OS.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 10:48 1

40. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Ok well first of all this post is much better and no I am not taco/gallito.

-The four year thing is kinda a up to four years of support considering the 3gs will have 4 years of support.
-I would say fragmentation the way apple does it has some good aspects at the very least since it allows older devices to get updates by withholding features. It sucks not to have said features but if that the price you have to pay for updates then count me in.
-Android fragmentation if you will doesn't have the issue of with holding a feature or two but has the much more serious problem of not updating devices at all.

Maybe some feel they would rather have the whole thing or nothing at all but I feel the compromise apple has set forth is better. Feel free to disagree but thats my take on the matter.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:02

43. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)


The original iPad is out of this up date it is gone the way of the OG iPhone

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:03 1

44. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Yes rip to the ipad we loved thee :(

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:31 2

56. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


thats a poor excuse to sday you confuse him with me or taco.. different avatar and name.. just own up that you are a dumb@ss and dont make excuses

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:36

61. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Lol uhhh oo galitoking is in the house lol

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:59

83. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 222; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)


agreed. apple gives the illusion of a uniformed ecosystem by giving older devices the same iOS version number but that has never meant they include all the new features. Apple though I will say leaves more features out than necessary to make sure their customers feel the need to upgrade sooner. Android I feel tries to update all the features the phone can physically support. And even if the Manufacture does drop update support, which lets face it happens to every device at some point, theres a strong developer community that is producing updates for the phone if you root.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 17:16 1

97. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


Not sure why they thumbed you down. You speak the truth. I love Android, but in the past, manufacturers have been slow to update, and most manufacturers have not fixed this yet. Although we cant blame them entirely, sometimes carriers are to blame as well, they dont want to push out updates for phones that are End of Life or nearing it.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 20:36

100. Ivan6479 (Posts: 250; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Well "tedkord" is right indeed about Apple leaving some of the customers out to dry, so to speak and as for Android devices getting maybe 2 updates within an 8 month time frame, that is pretty good seeing how most people upgrade their devices about every 2 years or so. Lets face it though even with iOS6, Apple is still struggling to catch up to all of the features which are implemented into Android. Android had all of these features well over 2 years ago. So if your content with paying top dollar for a device, which looks cool, but offers you options which are outdated, then that's your prerogative and your just supporting a company that's frankly taking advantage of their customers. I guess their clever marketing techniques full all ages. LOL

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:05

70. SleepingOz (unregistered)


BUAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH, you killed me!

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 09:52 8

24. medicci37 (Posts: 1287; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


I knew ifans wouldn't let actual facts get in their way. Whenever Apple does the same thing that they have b*tched about Android doing. Ifans tell themselves, that Apple must have a good reason for doing it. & thats the end of their critical reasoning.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 10:02 2

27. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


First of all i'm not an ifan see above.

- second of all your making statements without backing anything up with fact. Your arguments are based on nothing but ifans are trying to rastionalize something where i give a valid reason why updates are the way they are on ios.

-lastly you just an android fan trying to rastionalize the faults in the android ecosystem by saying look everyone else is just as bad. But in reality apple is supporting the iphone 3gs for four years made possible by fragmentation. This is clearly a weakness of android an Achilies heal if you will. Something as an android user you should be pissed off about and say look how long apple supports their devices why aren't mine supported that long. You should be trying to encourage google to take the reins from the carriers to be able to do so. But no instead you make it a fanboy fight. In the end its your loss.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 10:13

28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


True!

+1 for you. :)

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 10:28 1

33. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


How in the hell is that true. I never said apple must have a good reason for witholding features i gave the reason apple is doing what they are doing.
How biased are you. Do you want to actually talk about why apple doesn't have a good reason for this? No. You want to have a fanboy fight instead? Please lets have an intelligent discusion instead of what the peanut gallery is doing.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:35 1

59. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


biophone. now you see why I behave like I do.. they never want to listen to other arguments.. always saying the way I say things.. but you have been polite and they have been nothing but rude.. anyways is always nice to read you.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 11:38 1

62. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Galo just because someone was rude to you doesn't mean you should be rude back.
But remixfa and superandroidevo haven't been at all so there is that.

posted on 13 Jun 2012, 12:03 4

68. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


hey SAE is a very civil guy ..sober..lol.. and remix.. I do respect him but love fighting with him..

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