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Woz on Apple's patent war with Samsung: “I don’t think the decision of California will hold. And I don’t agree with it.”

0. phoneArena 13 Sep 2012, 04:41 posted on

Steve Wozniak is not only the co-founder of Apple and one of the most important people sculpting the computer as it is today, he is an avid user of all new technologies…

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posted on 13 Sep 2012, 04:47 8

1. rallyguy (Posts: 620; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)

I like his take on things. Although I don't agree with just everyone exchanging patents.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 05:31 15

15. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

the only (former) person from Apple who has any brain and is not rotten:

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 13:51 7

49. Stuntman (Posts: 836; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)

Correction. The only (former) person from Apple who has any heart.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 07:50 8

31. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)

I have to disagree with you there. The key word he used was "exchange", not giving them away for nothing.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 07:57 5

34. dragonscourgex (Posts: 307; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

I think I'm starting to like this dude. He seem's legit. Fair and open minded. Can he replace Tim Cook please? I might actually buy my wife the new iPhone if he would be in charge and stopped all this patent bull.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 16:19 1

53. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1175; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

Actually, if patents didn't exist then there would probably be more innovation and more products offered at prices consumers can afford. Companies would make products that either improve on a design or add something to it. They would also be able to afford to offer said products at cheaper prices because they wouldn't have to pay millions of dollars in patent licenses. It can be compared to generic vs brand name drug prescriptions. They both offer the same active ingredients, but the one is obviously cheaper because they came up with a process that makes it cheaper to produce and they don't pay millions of dollars in marketing. So, again, I think that a world built around open patents means that you have the freedom to take a product and make it better in almost everyway. It would create more competition because each company would try to out do the other. Right now, we have stifled competition because one company holds a patent and can set any price on it for the other ones to use, which in turn means more expensive products.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 21:00 1

58. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)

The reason that generic drugs cost less because they copied the brand name drugs exactly. The companies did not have to spend time and millions of dollars to create, test, and distribute the drug. The patents on drugs last for a number of years, so the big companies can make a profit, then the generics get to steal the thunder.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 17:43 1

55. jroc74 (Posts: 6006; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

I agree with Woz about exchanging patents.

It happens alot in Android land. No lawsuits have come from it....and no body argues about copy cats. Resizable widgets started on Motorola phones in Android land. Notification toggles started with Samsung I think. Them and HTC do it good, I dont think Moto has done it yet.

You dont see any in-fighting in Android land.....that shows it can happen and ppl can co exists.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 04:49 4

2. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

As I said long before, Wozniak is a puppet of Apple to smoothen the rage, his role is to make impression that even the most influential people in Apple are reasonable.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 04:56 22

8. MeoCao (unregistered)

I disagree, I think Woz is sincere.

And I don't think what Woz said is in Apple's interests.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 05:12 9

12. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

I think you watch too much conspiracy movies. Snap out of it man, that's not good.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 06:19

23. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

It's not conspiracy, it's the media dynamics. No one at Apple, not even Wozniak himself knows about it. It's just the role projected on him.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 08:06 3

35. Aeires (unregistered)

While a lot of your views are interesting and thought provoking because they are on the fringe, I think you've officially lost it with this overly psychiatrist approach to dissecting literally everything that has to do with Apple. Some things you can take for face value because there's nothing sinister going on. Not everything needs to be made into a 100 layer theory, some things really are simple and transparent in reality.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 08:28

40. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 637; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

I don't believe in that :-)

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 09:27

44. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)

I do trust Wozniack but I think AppleConspiracy has a point.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 04:50 4

3. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

i think after apple gets whats coming to them then the patent wars should end!

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 04:52 6

4. MeoCao (unregistered)

Strangely I love a certain Apple guy.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 04:52 11

5. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)

perfect example of a tech enthusiast. open minded and non biased.
i'll say it again, i like him.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 04:53 5

6. tiara6918 (Posts: 2036; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)

I like how he makes an unbiased opinion and truthfully says what he has on his mind but with all those statements he made all in all, does apple get mad at him?(for not being a 100% loyal with apple since he also likes other gadgets from other manufacturers)

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 04:55 6

7. chocolatebear76 (Posts: 122; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)

The world need people like him to make a better earth

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 09:50 3

45. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

yes, some balance, yin-yang.. If jobs is the black, Woz is the white..
If Jobs wanted thermonuclear, Woz says afternoon tea together..

Two CEOs that have to be replaced: Stephen Elop and Tim Cook, and I wish Woz can replace Cook..

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 05:04 2

9. SGSatlantis (Posts: 226; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)

Haha Woz, if you showed your friends pictures on the phones themself, of corse they will pick the S3. I mean the 3.5 is only good as a range finder and the new 16:9 will use the same 3.5 area to display proper 4:3 pictures or whatever the native res of the sensor is.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 05:05 8

10. Peter27 (Posts: 233; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

100 thumbs up for Wozniak.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 05:08 10

11. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

Wozniak is the man! Apple could've been better if he was the new CEO to replace the late Jobs.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 06:05 5

18. tedkord (Posts: 11706; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Apple would have been more respectable, but not as successful. Woz isn't cutthroat enough, or greedy enough to lead a company to the kind of success Apple has had. Ironically, their products would probably have been more powerful, and less expensive, too.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 06:10 4

20. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

i dont think that would be true. Woz is cut from the same fabric as Sergie and the guys from Google. Can you imagine our tech world if Apple and google GOT ALONG instead of in a constant battle till the death because of SJ and Cook?? Maybe some advancements wouldnt have happened to avoid patents, but so much more probably would have.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 06:46 2

24. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

You took the words right out of my mouth. And Woz, as mentioned, is a big fan of innovation, and not with some marketing BS to deceive people about real innovation.

Imagine Woz as the CEO of Apple, he'll definitely push the limits of innovation instead of inciting "thermo-gay-nuclear war" against other OS platform. Yes, Apple wouldn't be as successful as it is now, (as quoted from tedkord) but it wil make lot of consumers happier and satisfied.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 08:20 1

36. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

i still dont see why they wouldnt be as successful. they might, they might not. It depends on how you define success. Google's open policies are smashing the crap out of iOS with Android sales, yet Apple is making more bank than everyone. Maybe they wouldnt make 60% profit margins per device, and maybe we also wouldnt have monthly slave labor reports of deaths, suicides, and abuse.
Id call that more successful, not less. Success you can look yourself in the mirror and feel good about yourself with.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 18:24

56. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)

But Apple is smashing the crap because they own the whole process, Google offers a free OS license and only makes money off ads and the play store and I am not sure how much they make off the store. Yet, even with that I don't see new Android phones costing a whole lot less than iPhones. If Google got a piece of that pie, it would be insane.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 18:47 1

57. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

actually, they offer the OS for free, but if you want google apps and the market, you have to pay a licence for that. They make money off of just about every android sold. They just dont make the 60% that Apple makes per device. Then again.. no one does.

If they can turn Moto around that might change, but that's still a while away.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 05:29 2

14. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

Damage Control?

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 05:38 2

16. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

Apple just can't seem to stop copying apple can they?
They did it with the OG iPhone and the LG Prada, they copied the Prada's design with the 4, and they're doing it again with the LG Chocolate.
So, apple is a lying hypocrite, what's new?

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 06:00 3

17. koolkat-uk (Posts: 10; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

he's the one guy from apple i actually have respect for. He's a bit like us avid fans of technology.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 06:11 6

21. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

woz, the ultimate fanboy..

of tech.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 07:12

25. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)

Woz does not like the iPhone 5 either. Better pictures? That's sums it up yesterday for him. For me it was disappointment; again.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 07:13

26. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

Maybe the iPhone's screen isn't impressive enough size-wise or have enouggh of the color pop that AMOLED has, but he is really mistaken if he thinks the Motorola Razr has a good camera. It has the weakest camera of last generation, super muddy and drab colors.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 07:41 2

29. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

I have both phones in my household, and the RAZR camera does just fine, if you know what you are doing.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 07:32 1

27. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

he has always been the only GOOD thing about apple

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 07:36 2

28. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

Further proof that APPLE has lost its way...

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 07:45 2

30. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)

If Steve Jobs was the mouth of Apple, Woz was its brain, engine, and heart. I have mad respect for Woz, and I can see why he left Apple so early.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 07:54 4

33. frydaexiii (Posts: 1444; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

I wish this Steve was CEO of Apple...I would love Apple if he was...

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 09:08 3

41. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

I really wish Tim Cook paid more attention to Wozniak. He could learn a few things.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 09:23 1

43. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

Apple went downhill after Woz left. He's definitely one of my favorite tech geeks because he doesn't do it for the money, he does it for his love of tech.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 10:04 1

46. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)

Imagine all the cool stuff we could be playing with now if Woz was in charge of Apple. No patent wars, better cooperation across the board to bring devices that truly are innovative and awesome. There would still be some fanboys sure, but for the most part, people would be able to enjoy the technology without having issues with the behavior of companies as it pertains to patent litigation.

That would give us tech fans a nice quiet corner of the world that would righteously kick a$$!

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 10:06

47. rickywinataa (Posts: 262; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)

i think woz is actually someone who can gives non-biased opinion. he said that he likes his iPhones, but he still acknowledge that siri has become worse since apple bought it. he even has 2 Gnexus.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 10:38 1

48. JunitoNH (Posts: 1801; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)

If you take this guy heart out, you will see he's an Android.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 14:51

50. i3izkit311 (Posts: 29; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

I also usually agree with him - but there is no way that the pictures look better on the Razr than on the iPhone - the iPhone pictures are amazing... its one of the only reasons I'd ditch my maxx for the iphone 5.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 15:32 1

52. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)

WOZ.....a relic of the Apple that used to be......

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 17:41 1

54. _PHug_ (Posts: 444; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)

Gotta love this guy

posted on 17 Sep 2012, 06:06

59. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)

i really like this guy!! so unbiased! i hope he could have himself an 808 PureView or a lumia 920!!

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