Would you still love the Nexus 4 if you have to pay almost twice as much for it?
0. phoneArena 23 Nov 2012, 09:17 posted on
Nexus 4 - a brilliant, yet so controversial handset. It made great headlines when it got announced, mostly due to its never-before-seen off-contract price of $299...
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1. redmd (Posts: 865; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
yes still. but at that price you would now start to think of other offerings.
9. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
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13. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1064; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
as good as the nexus 4 is its not gonna be worth twice the price!
and this is one of the main reasons LG isnt doing so good....instead of focussing on capturing the market with the help of Google they just become greedy and start charging premium!
LG could really learn a thing or two from Asus who benefittd greatly by following Google's lead
25. MeoCao (unregistered)
I disagree, of course $300 is great price but only Google can afford b-c they don't need the profit, don't need to pay for ads and they don't provide technical support. LG certainly can't do the same.
This is very different from N7 case: then Google needed a breakthrough in tablet market, and Asus did not sell small tablets before N7 so N7 did not affect Asus business.
15. aaronkatrini (Posts: 237; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)
Yeah, like for the international version of Htc DNA, or maybe some other handset with S4-quad-core and adreno 320..
4. pankajgupta (Posts: 59; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
Better buy Non-LG quad core phone at that double price.
How about HTC Droid DNA or Sony Odin (Yuga) in near future :)
6. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 357; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
People like the Nexus for its stock OS and openness not because it's the fastest or something.
19. nicholassss (Posts: 348; Member since: 10 May 2012)
Iove it for its stockness and openness, but at that price I'd rather put the time in to getting a higher end phone to stock, you know?
20. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Can I ask you what a higher end phone is, exactly?
industry leading quad core Krait pro? check
2 gig of ram which is the industry max? check
best display of any phone save the new DNA's 1080p that just launched? check.
so.. umm... show me a phone that's worth another 200+ at full retail, because that's what the discussion is about.
22. nicholassss (Posts: 348; Member since: 10 May 2012)
Maybe at the moment but anyone who follows any sort of tech knows it won't last long.
I'm not saying its not a killer phone I'm just saying if I'm paying 600 bucks for a new phone I don't know if is be at the top of my list.
30. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
but its not 600 at the high point, its 500. other superphones in this category are 600-800. so even at "full price", its still cheaper.
23. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
The Nexus 4 does have the latest hardware and software at an inexpensive proposition. But the software isn't optimized. The benchmarks clearly show that.
IMHO I also feel that the Nexus phones were never developed with a consumer oriented approach. Hence the niggles which OEMs have to fix.
On a personal note, the Nexus 4 is planned to sell for Rs. 30,000 (~600$) in my country and it's not gonna be here until January next year. I am really really fed up. Google didn't even release the G Nexus in my country.
31. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
If the hardware isnt optimized on the Gnex, then its not optimized on ANY Qualcomm Krait based 4.2 phone.
It is the "standard". That is the point of the nexus.
4.2 has some bugs. the only one that bugs me is the december issue and the drop in battery life. The performance is relative and pointless at this point. I have yet to find an app or game that makes the phone drop FPS for.. ANYTHING.
Hell, I underclock it from 1500mhz to 960mhz and I get no drop in regular performance.. just better battery. Any top end device has more power than you will need period... for years.
41. MeoCao (unregistered)
Agreed, I think most ppl are talking about problems of JB 4.2, but that's mostly about Chrome and you can always choose another default browser on Android.
51. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
"If the hardware isnt optimized on the Gnex, then its not optimized on ANY Qualcomm Krait based 4.2 phone. "
1. G Nexus doesn't have S4. But that is OK because i know you meant nexus 4. :)
2. Droid Razr vs. G Nexus benchmarks(because they have same SoC i.e Dual 1.2 Ghz a9 + 300 mhz sgx 540).
G Nexus: 2032
Droid Razr: 2798
G Nexus: 69.37
Droid Razr: 95.66
See the difference? Gnexus has newer software, yet it's slower. The software isn't optimized.
3. The rest were my personal opinions. And i duly respect your opinions. To each his own. :)
52. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Optimus G: 7627
Nexus 4: 4902
Padfone 2: 15489
Nexus 4: 10122
Vellamo 2 HTML5:
Padfone 2: 2018
Nexus 4: 1236
See the lack of optimization?
7. itiswhatitis (Posts: 421; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
Its' sitll worth it but i wont be able to pay for it that's the difference
8. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)
I will buy phone with unlocked bootloader, easy to root and easy to unroot. So i still can return it for warranty.
And that type of phpne have a lot of custom rom.
10. doejon (Posts: 321; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
better buy samsung/htc/nokia/sony..
lg is just mehhhh... good but others are way better
14. kanagadeepan (Posts: 638; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
You mean Nexus4 at around 600+$??? Many people will buy for sure. This has happened with GalaxyNexus. GalaxyNexus was first sold at 300$ with 2 year contract on Verizon. Only recently Google reduced GNexus price to 349$ (just before Nexus7 launch, not sure)
BUT, if Nexus4 is selling for 299$ in one country and 649$ in other country without playStore means, HIGHER PRICE ONE WILL NEVER SELL WELL, because once people knew that this can be bought for half the price, they will never go for higher priced one even if its worth the double price.
18. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
for all the people commenting? do you have the set? I do.
I would still have bought it at $500, because its still 100-200+ cheaper than ANY other phone in its class non-contract.
The phone is solidly built, packed with features, runs flawlessly and keeps signal like a dream. I was picking up home router wifi signal at well over 100 yards out yesterday. I didnt even think that was possible. If anyone saw my G+ HDR fire photos yesterday, they were sent while being on that home router connection.. from the middle of a field. (btw, HDR fire effects r puurdy)
The only other phones that are in the same performance category are the Note2 and the new DNA. They offer pretty much the exact same specs set up. Go find them non-contract and tell me the pricing. Because that's what we are talking about here.. non contract pricing. Then you get to realize that for the extra few hundred bux you get a slightly better camera and the headache of putting up with manufacturer and especially VZW update delays.
If they were all the same price, Id lean international unlocked Note2 over the Nexus4 (massive battery & Exynos Quad > S4 pro quad, slightly nicer camera, healthy mod community to make up for slow updates). But seeing how that will NEVER be the case, its really hard to recommend spending $200-400 more for the Note2 off contract than the Nexus4. Its the best deal at $350 and $500... because its THE ONLY superphone at both price levels.
34. redmd (Posts: 865; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
massive battery & Exynos quad is a match in heaven. N4 is the game changer because of it's price and specs.
44. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
they are both beasts. if you were an extreme user, id say the extra cost of the note2 might be justified for its massive stock battery (cant wait to see how long an "extended battery" lasts). Other than that its really hard to justify any other phone than the N4 because of its power to price ratio.
If I could change one thing about the nexus it would be to bump the battery up to at least 2500mah.
36. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
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40. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3935; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Is the signal strength really that good? Is it like the best you've ever seen or just above average? Either case, it seems really phenomenal. Signal strength is the most important thing to me, seeing as though my GS2 drops signal all the time just by placing it in my pocket. I've been holding off on buying the Nexus 4 until some signal strength reports came in (and because the damn thing gets sold out 20 minutes after more stock comes through), and if your statement is true then I think I'll be getting it as soon as possible.
The only other issue I've heard about is that 4.2 isn't optimized fully, and has a few bugs, is it that bad? Or is it just a slight inconvenience? Need to know if I should wait until a 4.2.1 comes out.
45. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
That was just on WiFi. Its call signal strength is pretty darn strong as well. It still loses a bit.. but not much.. if you grip it too hard on the lower 3rd of the unit, but that's pretty normal.
54. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3935; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Alright, so signal is good, but what about the overall performance of 4.2? Should I wait for an update to release that gives more optimization to it, or is it fine the way it is? Take into account, I'm coming from a rooted T-Mobile GS2 running CM10; how will performance be compared to it?
49. yajia1 (Posts: 107; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
Nexus 4 costs $530 in the grey market in my country.
Note 2 costs $580 on the other hand.
Just the 3,100mAh battery and SD card slot alone, Note2 is the better deal. Best deal anyone could get actually this time of the year.
The only important feature of the Nexus 4 is it's price:specs ratio. If LG takes away that, it's more or less just another option between high-end phones.
24. xperiaboy (Posts: 10; Member since: 08 Nov 2012)
yes i still love the phone but i would buy s3 or motorola droid maxx hd for that price point :)
26. Kaze105 (Posts: 21; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
I may as well get a GS3 or even a Note 2 at 600. GS3 goes for around 400 new on ebay, while the note 2 is a little more expensive, but still the best phone out there.
27. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
For 2 X NEXUS 4+100 you can get NOTE II. So why go for NEXUS 4 at twice the price?
32. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Note2 costs 700, the nexus4 costs 500 through Tmobile. That's 200. For that price you could literally get 2 N4's or an N4 and an N10.
28. fnakhi (Posts: 7; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
I am pretty confused now. Since I am from Pakistan and this phone is now being offered here at the same price as Galaxy S3. Which phone do you think would be better. S3 or G4?
37. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
If you dont need the microsd card . Nexus 4 is gonna be a better choice .
Faster , better software update support , higher resolution screen , more ram , better design
29. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)
who is gonna pay 600$ for a phone that not resist a single drop?
sorry android guys but I prefer the l920 for that price
33. rickywinataa (Posts: 262; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
i see a lot of "no" but i guess because americans and europeans usually buy their phone with contract and their phones prices become much cheaper. however if we compare fully unlocked phone, nexus 4 is still worth the money. galaxy s3 and iPhone unlocked are around $700
35. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)
500-600 price with no LTE is what makes this phone unattractive for VRZ, ATT that are in a 4gLTE area.. simple as that... we all knew the Nexus 4 was spec and price combination,. Without one or them is a normal phone.
38. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
Some people love LTE , some dont .
LTE is very nice to have , but not a must have
39. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)
just like specs is not something that makes a great phone..
42. robocopvn (Posts: 175; Member since: 10 Mar 2010)
Nexus4 8gb : 9,000,000VND ~ 450USD
Nexus4 16gb : 10,000,000VND ~ 500USD
And I'm still saving my money for it :D, the only thing I'm considering now is 16gb enough ?
50. yajia1 (Posts: 107; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
Just save a little more and you can buy yourself a Note2.
43. zhypher_23 (Posts: 195; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
If there was a micro sd card slot, then yes too bad, there's no choice like that...
47. Thephonegeek (Posts: 118; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)
Hell no. What got everyone excited is the price tag of this device, not android 4.2. It costs almost same as Optimus G and Droid DNA WITH ONE OF THE buggiest android version and not so good of everything. Google should've gone with Asus or Sammy this time.
48. Thephonegeek (Posts: 118; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)
And Google being apple is getting me mad. What's with an MMC card slot? It doesn't need plenty of efforts to put one. If there was one I would've bought the 8GB one. It costs 400USD in my country where the 16GB one costs almost 500USD. And we all know 8GB is never enough for a phone with a HD+ SCREEN. I hope Google play gets back their stock filled by Christmas.
53. pliskin1 (Posts: 59; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
Didn't like it to begin with...I hate phones with big screens.