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Would you still love the Nexus 4 if you have to pay almost twice as much for it?

0. phoneArena 23 Nov 2012, 09:17 posted on

Nexus 4 - a brilliant, yet so controversial handset. It made great headlines when it got announced, mostly due to its never-before-seen off-contract price of $299...

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posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:20 10

1. redmd (Posts: 1336; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

yes still. but at that price you would now start to think of other offerings.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:52 3

9. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)

Give me a thumbs up if you are The 111th voter and I should get none cuz I'M the 111th this voter here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 10:16 7

13. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)

as good as the nexus 4 is its not gonna be worth twice the price!
and this is one of the main reasons LG isnt doing so good....instead of focussing on capturing the market with the help of Google they just become greedy and start charging premium!
LG could really learn a thing or two from Asus who benefittd greatly by following Google's lead

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 11:38 2

25. MeoCao (unregistered)

I disagree, of course $300 is great price but only Google can afford b-c they don't need the profit, don't need to pay for ads and they don't provide technical support. LG certainly can't do the same.

This is very different from N7 case: then Google needed a breakthrough in tablet market, and Asus did not sell small tablets before N7 so N7 did not affect Asus business.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 10:38 2

15. aaronkatrini (Posts: 242; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)

Yeah, like for the international version of Htc DNA, or maybe some other handset with S4-quad-core and adreno 320..

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:22

2. Juan_Gomez (Posts: 11; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)

How is this on a news website?

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 10:08 16

11. VJo003 (Posts: 360; Member since: 11 Mar 2012)

Whats wrong with conducting a poll?

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:28 9

3. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

You mean do I like the Optimus G?

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:30 7

4. pankajgupta (Posts: 59; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)

Better buy Non-LG quad core phone at that double price.
How about HTC Droid DNA or Sony Odin (Yuga) in near future :)

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:31 11

5. lee480 (Posts: 197; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)

Rather save up for Sony Yuga or Odin :P

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:32 2

6. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 382; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)

People like the Nexus for its stock OS and openness not because it's the fastest or something.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 11:07

19. nicholassss (Posts: 368; Member since: 10 May 2012)

Iove it for its stockness and openness, but at that price I'd rather put the time in to getting a higher end phone to stock, you know?

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 11:14 5

20. remixfa (Posts: 14600; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Can I ask you what a higher end phone is, exactly?

industry leading quad core Krait pro? check
2 gig of ram which is the industry max? check
best display of any phone save the new DNA's 1080p that just launched? check.

so.. umm... show me a phone that's worth another 200+ at full retail, because that's what the discussion is about.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 11:22

22. nicholassss (Posts: 368; Member since: 10 May 2012)

Maybe at the moment but anyone who follows any sort of tech knows it won't last long.

I'm not saying its not a killer phone I'm just saying if I'm paying 600 bucks for a new phone I don't know if is be at the top of my list.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 16:03 1

30. remixfa (Posts: 14600; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

but its not 600 at the high point, its 500. other superphones in this category are 600-800. so even at "full price", its still cheaper.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 11:29 1

23. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)

The Nexus 4 does have the latest hardware and software at an inexpensive proposition. But the software isn't optimized. The benchmarks clearly show that.

IMHO I also feel that the Nexus phones were never developed with a consumer oriented approach. Hence the niggles which OEMs have to fix.

On a personal note, the Nexus 4 is planned to sell for Rs. 30,000 (~600$) in my country and it's not gonna be here until January next year. I am really really fed up. Google didn't even release the G Nexus in my country.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 16:06 3

31. remixfa (Posts: 14600; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

If the hardware isnt optimized on the Gnex, then its not optimized on ANY Qualcomm Krait based 4.2 phone.

It is the "standard". That is the point of the nexus.

4.2 has some bugs. the only one that bugs me is the december issue and the drop in battery life. The performance is relative and pointless at this point. I have yet to find an app or game that makes the phone drop FPS for.. ANYTHING.

Hell, I underclock it from 1500mhz to 960mhz and I get no drop in regular performance.. just better battery. Any top end device has more power than you will need period... for years.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 19:25

41. MeoCao (unregistered)

Agreed, I think most ppl are talking about problems of JB 4.2, but that's mostly about Chrome and you can always choose another default browser on Android.

posted on 25 Nov 2012, 08:51

51. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)

"If the hardware isnt optimized on the Gnex, then its not optimized on ANY Qualcomm Krait based 4.2 phone. "

1. G Nexus doesn't have S4. But that is OK because i know you meant nexus 4. :)
2. Droid Razr vs. G Nexus benchmarks(because they have same SoC i.e Dual 1.2 Ghz a9 + 300 mhz sgx 540).

G Nexus: 2032
Droid Razr: 2798

G Nexus: 69.37
Droid Razr: 95.66
See the difference? Gnexus has newer software, yet it's slower. The software isn't optimized.

3. The rest were my personal opinions. And i duly respect your opinions. To each his own. :)

posted on 25 Nov 2012, 08:58

52. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


Quadrant v2:-
Optimus G: 7627
Nexus 4: 4902

Padfone 2: 15489
Nexus 4: 10122

Vellamo 2 HTML5:
Padfone 2: 2018
Nexus 4: 1236

See the lack of optimization?

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:43 1

7. itiswhatitis (Posts: 423; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)

Its' sitll worth it but i wont be able to pay for it that's the difference

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:47 1

8. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)

I will buy phone with unlocked bootloader, easy to root and easy to unroot. So i still can return it for warranty.
And that type of phpne have a lot of custom rom.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 09:59 4

10. doejon (Posts: 404; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)

better buy samsung/htc/nokia/sony..

lg is just mehhhh... good but others are way better

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 10:10 2

12. imkyle (Posts: 1079; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)

Stock Android is worth every penny.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 10:23

14. kanagadeepan (Posts: 971; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)

You mean Nexus4 at around 600+$??? Many people will buy for sure. This has happened with GalaxyNexus. GalaxyNexus was first sold at 300$ with 2 year contract on Verizon. Only recently Google reduced GNexus price to 349$ (just before Nexus7 launch, not sure)

BUT, if Nexus4 is selling for 299$ in one country and 649$ in other country without playStore means, HIGHER PRICE ONE WILL NEVER SELL WELL, because once people knew that this can be bought for half the price, they will never go for higher priced one even if its worth the double price.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 10:55

16. ddxmms1 (Posts: 13; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

that is a good question !

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 10:59 1

17. kushki (Posts: 49; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

I would rather buy Lumia 920

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 11:04 2

18. remixfa (Posts: 14600; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

for all the people commenting? do you have the set? I do.

I would still have bought it at $500, because its still 100-200+ cheaper than ANY other phone in its class non-contract.

The phone is solidly built, packed with features, runs flawlessly and keeps signal like a dream. I was picking up home router wifi signal at well over 100 yards out yesterday. I didnt even think that was possible. If anyone saw my G+ HDR fire photos yesterday, they were sent while being on that home router connection.. from the middle of a field. (btw, HDR fire effects r puurdy)

The only other phones that are in the same performance category are the Note2 and the new DNA. They offer pretty much the exact same specs set up. Go find them non-contract and tell me the pricing. Because that's what we are talking about here.. non contract pricing. Then you get to realize that for the extra few hundred bux you get a slightly better camera and the headache of putting up with manufacturer and especially VZW update delays.

If they were all the same price, Id lean international unlocked Note2 over the Nexus4 (massive battery & Exynos Quad > S4 pro quad, slightly nicer camera, healthy mod community to make up for slow updates). But seeing how that will NEVER be the case, its really hard to recommend spending $200-400 more for the Note2 off contract than the Nexus4. Its the best deal at $350 and $500... because its THE ONLY superphone at both price levels.

posted on 23 Nov 2012, 17:43

34. redmd (Posts: 1336; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

massive battery & Exynos quad is a match in heaven. N4 is the game changer because of it's price and specs.

posted on 24 Nov 2012, 10:40

44. remixfa (Posts: 14600; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

they are both beasts. if you were an extreme user, id say the extra cost of the note2 might be justified for its massive stock battery (cant wait to see how long an "extended battery" lasts). Other than that its really hard to justify any other phone than the N4 because of its power to price ratio.

If I could change one thing about the nexus it would be to bump the battery up to at least 2500mah.

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