Would you mind if Android flagships were thicker, but housed larger camera sensors?
0. phoneArena 13 Mar 2014, 07:54 posted on
Nokia's Lumia 1020 might be thicker than any Android flagship, but it sports one big advantage, and it's the big camera sensor. We don't mean big as in large resolution, though it certainly has that, too, but literally larger in physical dimensions. Theoretically, all other things being equal, a larger sensor can soak in more light, and produce better images...
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1. Johnnokia (Posts: 1074; Member since: 27 May 2012)
In other word, would you mind if Nokia produces high end Android PureView phone ?
A HUGE YES !
Hundred of millions would buy Nokia PureView runs Android.
No one would care about thickness if Nokia is the phone.
WE TRUST & ADORE NOKIA!
5. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
We buy Nokia.
Nokia, only name is enough.
7. Johnnokia (Posts: 1074; Member since: 27 May 2012)
Yesterday I was in At&t store, and I found two guys arguing about buying Galaxy S4 or LG G2. one of them said to his friend. I wish Nokia had an Android phone like the Lumia, so I wont be worry and confuse anymore. Its design and camera and build quality are amazing. But unfortunately, it runs WP.
Damn Stephen Flop and microBitch
23. Antonyjoseph (Posts: 217; Member since: 06 Apr 2013)
Samsung should give a huge bonus to Elop, If Nokia had gone android, Samsung would've been like HTC or Sony. Given the same OS and apps, who in their right mind would perfer Samsung harware over Nokia's?
51. jael206 (Posts: 145; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
As long as it's Android man, I don't mind having a bulky 41mp camera.. As long as it's Android!
68. Finalflash (Posts: 2795; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
It matters a bit, they better make it ergonomically viable if it is fat. Better feel good in the hands because the problem with thin phones is that they feel terrible in hand. But a thicker phone (like the Moto X) can have that ergonomics factor, so thickness when added properly would be just fine.
88. Dastrix (unregistered)
Very well said! LOL hahaha microBitch, nice one!
27. vandroid (Posts: 328; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
Nokia makes some ugly phones the only good looking model they have is the icon if Nokia didn't have those camera exclusivities I'm pretty sure Sammy or Apple would have them beat already
36. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
Their phones are still more elegant than lots of phones we see out there.
49. yann (Posts: 183; Member since: 15 Jul 2010)
Check your temperature dude... Are you sick???
In the years when Nokia made smart phones with camera, Apple didn't made the first iCrap and Samsung made cheap TV's.
Yes, their pride was too much and that's why they are suffering now.
But still, call quality, build quality, camera...all this is best made by Nokia.
84. vandroid (Posts: 328; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
Another fan boy I see, "in the years" we aren't in those years anymore now are we? Camera I'll hand it to Nokia the best at the moment. Build quality I would give it to Apple and HTC over Nokia any day. Call quality is best on ANY phone with a good Mic. Theyre suffering now because they still have too much pride.
78. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Oh I got you,
For him beautiful is ugly.
Check you eyes balls. Nokia make ugly phones? Dude check your ugly mind, and you think sammy and apple would have them beat already if they don't have camera exclusivity, Oh please it's not about exclusivity ugly mind, it's about hard work of Nokia(Nokia engineers ).
83. vandroid (Posts: 328; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
*cough cough* fan boy, it's a combination of both do you think Nokia wouldve been able to make these sensors without the exclusive technologies? No they wouldn't have
45. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2075; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
And how would you know if Nokia would sell more with Android? HTC and Moto were one of the first to make an Android phone, but look what's happened to them. Android isn't always the answer.
66. lyndon420 (Posts: 3991; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Paying attention to people's comments ever since the Open Handset Alliance was being formed would give you a pretty good idea as to just how many people have been wanting Nokia to make an Android... before ms started calling the shots that is.
72. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2075; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
But it wouldn't be certain that Nokia would sell much more with Android.
70. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
Htc and samsung
were first in windows phone. But look whats happened to them. Your argument is now invalid.
71. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2075; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
And what do you think was the "argument"? I did not initiate any argument here.
47. slyhounddog (Posts: 20; Member since: 28 Jun 2013)
In fact, take the s4 for example. Add an extra 1 1/2 mm to allow for a 20 mp Camera with ois and then fill in the extra space on the bottom with a 3300 MAH battery so theres no bump, and an awesome phone!
63. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)
A HUGE YES INDEED!
I'm stuck with Nokia 808 (which I love BTW), because once I got used to having great camera with full power xenon flash, I don't want to change it, no matter, how good apps could get...
73. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
That is such typical thing to say. Seriously fanboys are not the majority of consumers, Nokia would have died earlier had they gone with Android, Samsung was never going to be displaced simply because they would have destroyed Nokia with marketing, look at HTC one can argue that they make better smartphones than Samsung as a matter of fact love it or hate it one would argue that HTC one was generally seen as the best Android device of the last year yet they slipped 36.5 % over that time period. Nokia was hurting financially they were not in a position to displace Samsung, not everything is what it appears, WP saved Nokia with a combination of quality software and differentiation (different platform). Unless HTC makes a device that heals the sick or do something miraculous its not going to displace Samsung.
Google and Samsung just recently became closer via patent agreements.
Couple that with the fact Samsung dominates Android Global marketshare with over 63%, HTC is at 5% after all this time its quite ignorant to think that Nokia could just come in and dominate.
90. ImQ009 (Posts: 41; Member since: 02 Dec 2012)
"[..] would you mind if [..]"
I don't think you know what "mind" means :P
2. datphoneguy (Posts: 154; Member since: 15 Sep 2013)
I would rather phones be thicker so they could house a larger BATTERY
28. JunitoNH (Posts: 1666; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
+1 listen you want a better camera, buy a "camera". Don't care about water and dust proof, not a child. Give me a smartphone with great voice quality, and a battery that last at least three days.
46. boblight (Posts: 84; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
Totally agree with you. I don't care so much for whatever processor/how much ram/how many PPI is my screen stuff. I just care that my phone has a battery that lasts me for 2-3 days. And the extra weight does makes a phone feel more solid in my hands.
50. yann (Posts: 183; Member since: 15 Jul 2010)
Then buy Nokia with flashlight...101 or something like it.
89. mixedfish (Posts: 1154; Member since: 17 Nov 2013)
"Give me a smartphone with great voice quality, and a battery that last at least three days."
If you want to make calls on a battery that last long, why not just get a 'dumb' phone?
People buy Smartphones for their utility. Seems like you're one of those people who just carry a smartphone for the sake of carrying one because everyone else is using one.
3. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
I rather buying a DSLR and a slim beautiful android phone.
32. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
As the name indicates, smartphones are not made for taking pictures. In the case I wanted to take a picture, I would take my DSLR to take great pictures.
62. Sauce (unregistered)
Exactly dude. People, I mean fanboys on this website, claim that their silly phones are better than DSLRs.
I let out a bursting LOL every time I read nonsense like that hahaha.
4. apple4never (Posts: 1064; Member since: 08 May 2013)
i wouldnt mind if they were thicker with bigger batteries, nuff said
6. JetskiMark (Posts: 7; Member since: 03 Feb 2014)
My wallet is considerably thicker than any phone, yet it fits comfortably in my pocket. I would gladly carry a thick phone if that meant a larger battery and camera sensor. Optical zoom would be really appreciated too.
8. mobi_user (Posts: 150; Member since: 18 Jun 2013)
this is the best survey yet. Andriods OEMs stop going for slim trim. Stop using gimmick words for carmera.
For carmera, it is bigger the better.
17. Jason2k13 (Posts: 1177; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
this poll is only for geeks and tech nerds, the majority of average users already find cell phone cameras good, and would prefer thinner phones.
10. Federated (Posts: 261; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
I prefer large camera sensor and large battery. 1/1.2" sensor size and 3500 MAH battery in an Android flagship please. I don't mind the thickness and bulkiness.
11. Rongocook (Posts: 76; Member since: 20 Sep 2013)
A 9mm phone with bigger battery along a pureview would be perfect.
12. JerryTime (Posts: 468; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)
Thinner is definitely better. And you don't have to to sacrifice the slim design of the phone for a great battery on Android devices. Look at the DROID MAXX, the Note 3, and the LG G2, they're all relatively thin, and their battery life is very impressive.
That being said, the Cameras on the Androids are already fantastic. The pictures from the new LG models, Samsung Models, and newer Sony models are FANTASTIC. What more could you want?
Even Motorola has stepped their game up with Moto X and the new DROID lineup
13. anis.malla (Posts: 3; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)
slim and elegant are not synonymous...
Lumia 920 and icon are every bit of elegant as iphone or z1 or one or every android smartphone out there!!
14. Calm_down_mon (Posts: 43; Member since: 12 Dec 2013)
Actually the cameras right now are pretty good , I kinda want more durable phones.
15. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I would rather some current Android flagships running WP!... WP8.1 was developed so that it can run on most newer Android devices as well.. We already have enough phones with great cameras. I want to see more OEM's making WP device!
18. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
STUPID ELOP. getting scared "we cant win back people when we go android world"
he never asked the people what they wanted, only board member meetings.
he disregarded the nokia slogan
22. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
True.....he is stupid.....never try to know what people wanted.
25. Johnnokia (Posts: 1074; Member since: 27 May 2012)
He knows very well that people love Nokia Android, and he only wanted to destroy Nokia to sell it to Microsoft.
37. Deaconclgi (Posts: 405; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
I am glad to have Nokia Windows phones. I have been a Symbian user since 2007, buying Nokia flagships, an iOS user and an Android user. Windows Phone is refreshingly different and I am glad Nokia decided to go the Windows Phone route.
If I want an Android phone, I will buy one and have, my latest Android phones are the Nexus 5 and LG G2. I also have the iPhone 5S 64GB, iPad 4.
Windows Phone is great to those that like Windows Phone and for people to only want Nokia to make Android phones is rather selfish and to call Elop stupid is rude.
48. boblight (Posts: 84; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
+ 1 with you bro. I have grown tired of seeing constantly bash Nokia just because they didn't go Android. I mean, what's the problem with some diversity ? Some may like their Nexus or Galaxys more, or some may like their Lumias, but this is totally up to them ! Not everything has to follow a certain way just because someone says so !
55. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
but why not just go android at first?,
then they have option for WP as second.
yes they are improving with WP- but can skyrocket at the top with android if ever. they can easily differentiate their android devices. they have the camera and the quality and the patents and the head start techs.
(head start tech- latest is lumia 1520 assertive display, four microphone directional stereo recording)
61. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
These fools act like their aren't plenty of great Android phones to choose from... They're selfishness, and ungratefulness, won't go "unrewarded"...
Mark my word.. All of these Android fans who keep wrongfully hating on WP will get what's coming to them in due time... Karma is relentless, and nobody is exempt from what's coming to them...
69. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)
Let me tell You why people call Elop stupid.
When he started as CEO, Nokia was in decline, but was still the largest smartphone manufacturer in the world. Then he decided, to go with undeveloped WP7. When You go with new feature lacking system, You should start with low end, but no. He decided to scrap everything, and go straght to flagship zone. That way he left largest smarphone company without fully capable flagship for two years.
The company shrunk. WP8 was better, but didn't win the crowd. It just got tiny part of past Nokia fans. That's obvious, when You look at stats. WP8 was growing only because Symbian was dropping. At end of 2013 there is no more symbian shares to drop, and what happens? In the most profitable quarter Q4 Windows phone sells drops. Why, because there are no more people, who after owning Symbian device, say: "It's Nokia, I trust it must be good." There are only people who after owning WP7 device say: "Never again".
Nokia used to be world leader in mobile technology for years, and there are a lot of people truly attached to the brand. When they see that, their favorite brand practically vanished, they wonder why, and they see, how stupid decisions, put Nokia on its knees. That's why they are angry at Elop.
Why do they complain about Nokia not going android way, instead of simply switching to another brand? There are things at which Nokia has always been, and still is the best. Nokia has tens of years of experience in manufacturing phones, and phone related things are still the best at Nokia. They know how to place antenna, so that reception is great. They know how to place modules, so that Bluetooth doesn't get in the way with WIFI, nor with GPS, nor with GSM. They know how to place them, so that the phone can survive multiple drops, and still work great. They know that small bezel means, easy screen break, so they don't follow the mob yealling: "We want gigantic screens and small bezels" (no offence PA). Because, they want to create reliable handset.
That is why, there are tons of people wishing Nokia had gone Android, and being convinced, that if they would, MS would know be considering buying Samsung instead of Nokia.
I hope some anti-whatever people will read it, because I feel, there is a major lack of understanding each other, on this site.
19. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 1157; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)
For me, I don't mind thicker flagships but I don't need larger camera sensors
20. Lt.Green (Posts: 397; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Nah, the G Pro 2 at 8.3mm is proof enough that you don't need a bulky phone to have a good camera.
39. Deaconclgi (Posts: 405; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
The question isn't about having a good camera. Whether a camera is good to someone is an opinion. Whether a camera has a larger sensor or not is a fact.
So many people are totally missing the point with their comments. My iPhone 5s takes good pictures but they cannot compare to the quality and abilities afforded by the vastly larger sensor and superior optics of my Nokia 808 PureView, Lumia 1020 and even my 2010 Nokia N8, with its large 1/1.8 sensor.
The quality of an image is more than how it looks. Getting a good picture from a small sensor is not the same as getting a good picture from a large sensor, optics and advanced OIS.
Things are only good to us until we have had better, then what was good just isn't good enough.
So back to the question....I would like a camera hump on an Android phone so that superior optics and a large sensor size can be housed.
21. papss (unregistered)
I'd rather them slim down the sloppy code in the OS and make the phone bigger with a better sensor
30. tokuzumi (Posts: 946; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
Thin phones don't really offer any advantage. The thinner the phone, the easier it is to drop, since there isn't as much to hold on to. I'd much rather have a narrower phone, that is thicker. It feels much better in the hand than phones like the Note, S3, DNA, etc. I was holding the Nexus S yesterday, and it is amazing the difference in thickness compared to a Nexus 5. But it feels amazing in the hand, because of the extra thickness. Plus, with larger physical sensors, this will only mean better pictures for cell phones. I don't care if a phone has a 16MP sensor. It isn't nearly as good as a dedicated point and shoot with the same MP count.
Thin phones are solely a marketing bullet point. They do not benefit the customer.