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With the same battery, HTC One (M8) for Windows listed to have nearly double the battery life of the One (M8) for Android

0. phoneArena 20 Aug 2014, 02:42 posted on

The HTC One (M8) for Windows might feature an uncanny resemblance to the Android-based One (M8), down to the looks, camera and battery size, but interestingly, despite its equally sized, 2600mAh battery…

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posted on 20 Aug 2014, 02:47 19

1. techperson211 (Posts: 598; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)


Good job for MS. Still android is a lot more functional and reliable as of these time.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:38 15

11. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 325; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


Functional? As in more versatile, yes. As in everyday usability, no.

Reliable? Not a chance, which is natural, considering the open vs. closed system conditions. You pay for the openness, and stability is the first sacrifice you make...

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:43 7

17. dimas (Posts: 40; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)


Agreed. Being an open source system means more room for flaws. Most android users criticize iPhone and WP for being strict with their system but the benefits out weight the option of being customizable.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 07:05 3

49. sgodsell (Posts: 1209; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


First of all Windows Phone is NOT as good as Android for multitasking. WP has limits on how many task can run and how they can run. Android does not have such limits.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 14:15

64. Dastrix (Posts: 587; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


Dude, you're late to the party. Windows Phone 8.1 is as good as Android for multi-tasking, if not better.

"Android does not have such limits."
Nothing is limitless.

posted on 21 Aug 2014, 02:25

68. Fellwalker (Posts: 37; Member since: 04 Apr 2014)


My nexus 5 is a hybrid multitasking. For many apps it does not so much multi task as allow several apps open at the same time. The one in the background pauses until I go back to it.
Downloading and installing continue, as do music, bbc radio player, runkeeper, but others just stop when the. Are not the focus.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:47 2

18. sks1969 (Posts: 84; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)


The issue is not open source vs closed source. It is about implementation.
The stability in windows phone is simply because lot of time and effort has gone into windows phone, derived from the windows NT kernel. Google is not too worried about Android, they followed the quick and dirty way to get something out, it is not their bread and butter. They make more money in the services they offer.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:07 3

25. sks1969 (Posts: 84; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)


To continue the issue of open source vs closed source, have you ever used Meego/Maemo the OS that runs on the Nokia N9. That is a true open source operating system. It can walk over any of the mobile operating systems ever. The device had a 1 ghz processor and 1 GB of RAM it is extremely power efficient.
With Google you are made to believe that Android it is open source but it in reality it is not a true open source platform, there are many parts for which Google does not publish source. On the N9 the non opensource components are involving only the mobile radio, camera and some user space programs that are Nokia propreitary.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:04 3

34. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 768; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Functionality? Yes absolutely yes. And in everyday usability YESSS it does everything it says.
Reliable? Absolutely reliable what's makes you think these much (nearly 75% i think) people rely on android? And you say it is completely not reliable? And open and closed systems has its own pros and cons. But android is not fully open source OS.
i own a WP devices and i loves it and I'm sticking to it because It fullfills my needs. And i used many devices including android and iPhones and all these platforms are fast and efficient and highly reliable. I don't understand many people here in PhoneArena they simply misdirecting other with their comments. I think as for android hate i think these guys never used android since 2.3 gingerbreed.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:41

43. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 768; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Also we can't trust these test now we need some reliable test from reliable source. Besides source for this article says WmPowerUser so there is chance for this test being biased (can't say for sure).

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 11:51

59. parthoman (Posts: 80; Member since: 18 Aug 2014)


"you loves it "

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:05 1

35. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 768; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Functionality? Yes absolutely yes android is kinda windows pc of mobile world. And in everyday usability YESSS it does everything it says.
Reliable? Absolutely reliable what's makes you think these much (nearly 75% i think) people rely on android? And you say it is completely not reliable? And open and closed systems has its own pros and cons. But android is not fully open source OS.
i own a WP devices and i loves it and I'm sticking to it because It fullfills my needs. And i used many devices including android and iPhones and all these platforms are fast and efficient and highly reliable. I don't understand many people here in PhoneArena they simply misdirecting other with their comments. I think as for android hate i think these guys never used android since 2.3 gingerbreed.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:22 2

42. madphone (Posts: 2; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


Come on, always reading the same things from very biased fanboys. I'm using both systems, latest android and latest windows phone, both phones with excactly the same SoC and RAM. I really like WP 8.1 for it's homescreen concept, but to say it's more reliable, stable... is crap. you may have owned a crappy gingerbread or ics phone, but with android 4.4.4 there is no way windows phone can be as reliable, stable and fast as android. even windows phones battery live is nowhere near when you are a power user like i am. Maybe the battery live was better on wp 8.0(cause of the lack of features), but nowadays there is no huge difference.
When it comes to comfort windows phone is still years behind android. for example opening links. except of store links they are always opened with the browser, android lets you choose from all apps able to open it (youtube app for youtube videos, tapatalk for forum links...). This is just an example, theer are many similar points.
Android Notification system is also much more reliable and functional: most times (not always) windows phones action centre resumes the app at the last point instead of linking directly to the right chat (whatsapp...)
there are many points where android is much more comfortable and reliable than windows phones, simply telling it isn't because it wasn't in the past is way to simple. Don't get me wrong, i like both systems very much, but windwos phone still has it's quirks, and needs alot of work.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:44 2

44. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 768; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


U sir, just pointed out some great valid points. +1 to you.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 07:34 2

51. JunitoNH (Posts: 881; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


Don't forget, android also needs x amount of Ram and twenty cores to avoid lag and stutter.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 10:54

57. Enddo (Posts: 9; Member since: 26 May 2014)


Don't forget that Android has a near unlimited amount of customizability because of how powerful it is(and how powerful the hardware needs to be)

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 21:22

66. chebner (Posts: 139; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Android isn't reliable? Really? What Android phones have you owned?

What an ignorant comment. I haven't had reliability issues since my Evo 4g was upgraded to Gingerbread. And I wouldn't really have called Froyo unreliable.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:39 4

13. dimas (Posts: 40; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)


How can you tell? I own a WP phone and it's reliable and much more stable than an android phone. Maybe their app ecosystem is small but nobody install hundred of apps in their phone unless they don't have social lives.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:18 2

39. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 768; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


I also own WP and used android. And both fast and reliable equally. The Moto g i used runs 4.4 kit kat and absolutely fast . Has 50 apps installed. Also had hands on with a moto E. and considering these are low-end devices they are highly reliable.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 10:55

58. Enddo (Posts: 9; Member since: 26 May 2014)


such an ignorant and offensive statement. . .

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:51 2

19. sks1969 (Posts: 84; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)


Define functional and reliable?
What is the point of having the fastest hardware and a high res display and a million apps (most of it is worthless) and all the features when you don't have enough juice to last through the day.
It is still a phone and we use for voice calls most of the time, no point with a dead battery in the middle of the day.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 11:58

62. tenho1982 (Posts: 58; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)


No wonder why my friend was on Skype on WP but I had no way to contact him until he unlocks his device. When he switched to Android a month ago problem was solved.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 02:48 1

2. ikenvape (Posts: 65; Member since: 28 May 2014)


I can believe it. I'm still using a Lumia 928 model until I make up my mind and the battery has been getting me through the day and only a current Andy flagship can do that.
Ps there is a typo 'double the difference '

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 02:48 4

3. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2599; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


Nice optimization of OS.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 02:49 3

4. wilsong17 (Posts: 873; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)


One multi task more stuff in the background eating more battery hopefully android L will improve that

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:12 1

9. Finalflash (Posts: 1700; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Whao there people, calm down and wait for independent testing. Technically the iPhone lasts all day according to the website but we all know how true that is.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 02:59

5. LikeMyself (Posts: 267; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)


This is obvious! WP doesn't have widgets, homescreens, and more! WP is in fact stripped lacking too many functions and therefore light! Why do you think a Mercedes uses more fuel than a Toyota( a Camry for ex.) while still being as durable!? Hope HTC becomes successful on both platforms unlike Nokia which is short minded and depends on a single OS and got bankrupt and became MS! Even Sammy uses many OSes to cover all markets which was supposedly what Nokia is; cover everything! Nokia, so arrogant and deserve their fate!

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:41 2

14. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 325; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


Windows uses live tiles.

Nokia don't produce phones anymore.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 06:42 1

46. elitewolverine (Posts: 1538; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Also widgets shouldnt take that much battery, i mean its displaying info not eating a child here. Live tiles, flip, grab info, and display info, pictures etc. The only thing they dont do is interactive.

Mercedes is not the high point of 'reliable'http://corp.carmd.com/2013-manufacturer-vehicle-ranking.htm?subId=232

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 07:03

48. LikeMyself (Posts: 267; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)


Mercedes's chassis and engines are the best! For my comparison with Toyota, Audi then! Your link is not a good comparison for reliability! It relies on repair/servicing frequency and costs which is unreliable! Chrysler and Nissan Altima gave me a clue of the unreliability of the statistics, but Hyundai confirmed it since most people owning one use it for 2-4 years, then throw it in dumpyard! That's why the low repair costs and frequency are so low since there's no point in servicing a Hyundai!

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 02:59 1

6. BattleBrat (Posts: 1069; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


I've gotten 6 days before with my M8, windows phone could get TWICE that?!?

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:11

8. Shatter (Posts: 2019; Member since: 29 May 2013)


If you look at it once a day and make 1 phone call per day.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:56

22. sks1969 (Posts: 84; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)


Even if you look at it once a day and make a 1 phone call per day, it is very difficult to get it to last 6 days.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:08

7. livyatan (Posts: 691; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)


This is curious.
While WP is arguably easier on the battery, the Lumia 930 has the shortest battery life out of any flagship.
Also, the Samsung Ativ S doesn't quite best the Galaxy S counterparts by much.

And ascent Mate 2 easily beats even the big WP champion, Lumia 1520.

Again, WP may be more efficient, but the difference isn't that big. And when Android L comes, it will turn Android into a very efficient OS (giving an incredible 35% longer endurance to Nexus 5 even in preview stage)

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:17 3

10. tech2 (Posts: 2028; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


That's what is wondering me too. How is this possible as the entire OS is controlled by MS. I think we'll have to wait for the battery tests from reliable sources such as gsmarena before rushing to judgement here.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:09

36. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 768; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Exactly I've been wondering the same thing too. And gsmarena battery test is great.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:18 1

40. hemedans (Posts: 147; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)


its not just great, its traditional benchmark, they play video, make calls and browse web compare to phonearena who just run script

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:41 4

15. Daboss (Posts: 42; Member since: 27 Sep 2013)


Keep dreaming dude!
Android can never be as power efficient as Windows phone or ios.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:51 1

20. JakeLee (Posts: 997; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


Binder, Surfaceflinger, Zygote, Skia.....
Just to name a few of the power drainders on Android.

They are ridiculously inefficient.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:58

23. sks1969 (Posts: 84; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)


They are not running similar hardware my friend.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:16 1

38. hemedans (Posts: 147; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)


which test did ascend mate beat lumia 1520? dont point wrong facts.

-lumia 1520 has 3400mah
-ascend mate 2 has 4000mah

but in gsmarena test lumia 1520 is still king with 107h compare with 106h of ascend mate 2. i agree its close result but if you take fact that lumia 1520 has smaller battery then you will know wp is efficient in battery life.

lumia 930 its single case and it can be nokia fault, but what about other wp phones? lumia 720, lumia 625 (world record for longest call ), lumia 1320 and 925 they got great battery life.

problem with android is that user cant limit background task, even app like camera 360 which you dont use frequently stay open in background for 24 hours what do you expect in battery life?

even wp have shortcomings, all wp are not good in browsing, their score fell short compare to android competititor but overall? wp has more battery endurance compare to android

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 06:09

45. livyatan (Posts: 691; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)


Ascend mate 2 trumps the 1520 in every test except for the standby times which are significantly longer on the Lumia.

But I agree that when we take into account the capacity difference and the more frugal chip in the Ascend Mate, WP seems like the lighter OS (not surprising at all)

Again, I'm not denying that WP is easier on the battery, but the difference isn't nearly as big as this title suggests, and it will probably be gone with the release of Android L.
There are many mid range Android phones with great batt endurance rivaling the WP ccompetition already, most notably the recent Sony Xperias.

Oh and you can easily limit the background processes on Android to as little as a single task. Settings -> general -> developer options -> limit background processes

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 08:34

53. hemedans (Posts: 147; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)


i agree with you about sony midranger they suprise even me, especially t3 and t2 ultra, but its sony only what about samsung, or lg or other android oem?

"Settings -> general -> developer options -> limit background processes," i use this setting in my gs3 but its not enough because if i want to limit only 10 application not to run background and allow 3 application to run in background i cant by use that setting.

in wp (which people said its feature phone os) you can decide which app can run in background and which to limit its process hence it save battery and give you total control of your smartphone.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:39

12. naittosan (Posts: 192; Member since: 28 Jun 2014)


Because Windows don't have any apps, ask me I know.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:05 2

24. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1997; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


Tell me about the info you have sir.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:13 4

37. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 768; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


http://www.phonearena.com/news/Microsoft-Windows-Phone-Store-hosts-more-than-300000-apps_id59112

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:43 1

16. Taters (Posts: 2877; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Too bad Windows phone sucks.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 03:56 3

21. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


LOL, all these comments only defending their Android products. Now that's funny.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:08 2

26. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1997; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


All of these brainless fandroids hiding the faults of their precious OS and trying to troll WP is so damn funny! In any case, HTC have hit the sweet spot with this handset. Please release it internationally HTC!

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:31

27. vuyonc (Posts: 220; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


Then what happened to the 930/Icon? They both flopped on PA and GSMA!

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:34

28. janno (Posts: 34; Member since: 19 Aug 2014)


Most likely a mistake - they rotated the 1 and 2 numbers. But of course PhoneArena would be the first with BS rumors out.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:37

29. hameed1989 (Posts: 40; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)


This was expected. Android is not the best operating system when it comes to batteries. A dual core iPhone with under 2000 mAh. Battery was competing with power mongering devices running Android. Every OS has its virtues and vices...Its upto you what you choose!

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:38

30. refillable (Posts: 630; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)


Nearly double the battery and nearly half the functionality. Logic!

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:41 2

31. mike2959 (Posts: 225; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)


Android truly is a hot mess. All kinds of crap running in the background, but it's supposed to!? The processing power it takes for a Android phone just to run smooth is a enough to operate a jet fighter! Every time a new release rolls out, it's built on top of the previous hot mess.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:55 2

32. Daboss (Posts: 42; Member since: 27 Sep 2013)


Exactly my point. We have been waiting for the smooth and power efficient Android since gingerbread.
Kitkat is supposed to be the efficient version but it's a mess on almost all non Google products. (ask sony)

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 07:37

52. elitewolverine (Posts: 1538; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


HTC one had many issues, s4 did as well. Doesnt mean there is not good ones out there or all is bad, but i see way more defects than i should. Mainly due with poorly written apps going from 4.3 to 4.4. Not to mention that camera loop bug that needed to be fixed that killed the battery too.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 04:56 3

33. Venkatramanan (Posts: 42; Member since: 15 Aug 2014)


I have used WP and Android Devices. From my experience I like closed Platforms rather than Open OS. I agree that WP is missing some important features like USB OTG and MHL. But the Apps and Games part i did not miss anything in WP ( At least for Myself). It is good to know that Battery life in WP is greater than the Same in Android. But i am waiting for the battery test results. Expecting One MAX in WP

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 05:21

41. hemedans (Posts: 147; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)


same here i dont miss any game from android only thing i miss is gameguardian.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 06:44 1

47. SIGPRO (Posts: 440; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


People who are bashing WP dont know anything! Ok the Apps are not near ios and Android but still they are growing, like when ios and android started they had million apps on the first day......NO! It has to grow and i see WP growing and growing it is going to be a big OS mark my words.

posted on 20 Aug 2014, 09:12 1

55. Taters (Posts: 2877; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


It's not about the apps. It's just ugly and too simple.

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