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With no last second agreement likely, Apple v. Samsung winner will be up to the 9 person jury

0. phoneArena 18 Aug 2012, 23:55 posted on

On Saturday, both Apple and Samsung got together to try to narrow the number of claims each side was pressing against the other but no agreement was made; this means that the chances are increasing that it will be the 9 members of the jury who will decide which side wins the case...

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posted on 19 Aug 2012, 00:13 11

1. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


"Samsung is a major supplier to Apple."

hahah see thats where samsung has the upper hand because if apple wins this case with the dirty schemes they have be using, Samsung can easily "cut" the string after that contract is over and find someone else to work with....As im sure there are PLENTY other companies that would like to work with sammy........ HTC, SONY. MOTO MAYBE?

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 01:38 11

9. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


why would samsung get rid of a part of their business because its pride has been hurt?

what would that say of samsung as a good business partner? pride over profit?

I mean that is pretty much like me as a storeowner denying business to democrats because I am a republican… (just an example)

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 02:38 2

11. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Honestly...Samsung should still deal with Apple. They give Apple money if they lose...and get some of it back by supplying parts to them.

Its almost a no lose situation for Samsung....lol.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 07:11 3

28. joey_sfb (Posts: 6010; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Samsung has the capacity to manufacture into phones and tablets all the parts that was sold to Apple.

It might come to a point where they decide to choke apple just like the way apple punch them in the eyes.

Apple CEO vs Samsung CEO. They are human after all.

These episodes only show apple partners that they better be on their guard apple will knock your teeth regardless of how important your role may be to their profit margin.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 03:44 2

17. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


Dude would you still wanna do business after someone has been calling you a lier, a copier, and other stuff like that? I dont think so........And I can tell you are an apple lover right off the back because saying samsungs "pride" has been hurt is totally......ummm i dont know the word, but Ill just say WRONG! Samsungs "pride" has not been in this case the entire time...It is APPLES pride that has drug samsung to court in the first place....So im not about to get in a huge discussion over this but just know that if this case goes down the way apple wants it too, then samsung better have the guts to do what is necessary, that is IF they cannot find a common ground and continue in their partner ship......and like I said If this case continues the way apple wants it to be (which is being solely led by the very essence of pride) then Samsung most definitely does not need to work with that kind of influence period...

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 06:38 2

22. Bozzor (Posts: 182; Member since: 02 May 2012)


Samsung's components division maintains very good relations with Apple, and at the end of the day, Apple needs Samsung's scale and quality.

And Samsung needs Apples cash.

At present, China and the US snipe at each other and vie for power influence and control...yet they support each other economically like few other nations on earth. Why? Because they badly need each other. They may not really like it, but that's the way things are.

Same here.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 06:56 5

23. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Who cares if he's an apple lover? Look at all the Samsung/Android lovers who flood PA with negative/anti apple comments all day all articles.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 09:08 10

32. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you guys are all crazy

if samsung loses, samsung will still be the supplier

they have CONTRACTS. NEITHER side can back out of without paying what would more than likely be a kings ransom.

Also, Apple has no choice. Theyve been looking for alternate suppliers and no one else has the capacity free to make iphones at apple's pace. Samsung could just increase exynos supplies and sell them out (once they fix integrated LTE) and make up much if not all of the business they lose from Apple. Ending the venture would hurt them both, but it would hurt apple more... at least on the short term. A constant shortage of iphones would have a huge effect on them.

But again, business is not personal. Would you pay.. probably hundreds of millions to billions.. to get out of a MULTI BILLION dollar contract simply because your annoyed with the guy your making things for? If you were Apple would you ditch samsung to "punish" them even though it hurts you much more? You want to cut your nose of to spite your face?

Think rationally.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 09:14 3

36. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


+1 Remixfa, you have a point! But then knowing only
Samsung can supply Apple's demand, no other than them, it would be a nice to see the fruit drop before maturity.....?

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 14:02

46. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Very good post man. I wish more apple/android users had ur understanding.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 14:37 1

48. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


if I was in a contract and I was making money absolutely! would you not take a billion dollars from TIm cook because you dont like him? really??

and i am not saying samsungs pride has already been hurt… it WOULD be hurt if they lost to apple..

Samsung is not a stupid company obviously… they would not sacrifice a working relationship over pride

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 14:53

50. lyndon420 (Posts: 4559; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


You can only get away with biting the hand that feeds you for so long before the hand up and slaps you in the head. Sammy should honor any existing contracts with apple and then cut all ties with them. I think Sammy can make enough money from the sales of its own products without helping the competition...especially when the competition keeps dragging you into court over bs.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 15:16 1

52. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


apple will go and find other component companies… they are not completely reliant on samsung…

yes, apple would rather keep their relation going that switching just as samsung would enjoy keeping the revenue stream… it makes no sense for samsung and apple to cease their working relationship-- and anyways they are both fighting each other.. its not all apple attacking samsung

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 16:19

54. lyndon420 (Posts: 4559; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


How many different OEM's has apple worked with? And out of those, how many have been dragged into court by apple?

Google works with many OEM's as well, and how many of them have been dragged to court by Google.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 16:54 1

57. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


none of the suing matters though..

this is an unrelated part of business that would be stupid for either company to sever

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 02:41 4

13. tegradragon (Posts: 68; Member since: 23 May 2012)


And no one would like to work with Apple?

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 07:00 3

24. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Whoever said that is plain wrong. This is the business world, not the consumer world. Samsung, apple r both smart enough to know they badly need each other... The courtroom battle won't interfere with that in the least bit. These companies r huge for a reason. Smarts!!!

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 14:55 1

51. lyndon420 (Posts: 4559; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


I'm pretty sure apple needs Sammy more than Sammy needing apple.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 20:57 2

59. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


You're pretty sure or u don't know for sure.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 04:36 6

19. MeoCao (unregistered)


There should be no compromise, Android must keep on attacking until Apple comes to senses.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 07:01 5

25. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Dude please hush

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 09:08 1

33. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Well said! When will that fruit mature?

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 09:44 5

38. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you cant go to senses you never had. :)

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 10:22 1

41. MeoCao (unregistered)


Haha, you can learn some after being beaten badly.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 08:09 2

29. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


did you know that apple is samsung's biggest client? Their deals in the business is not affected even who wins or loses. Apple will continue to buy components/parts from samsung and samsung will continue to sell them those components. Business is business. If samsung loses this war, then that's their fate, and they should not sacrifice bigger loss by giving up apple.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 09:06

31. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Somethings not right, 9 jurys, I wonder why? Few less!

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 09:09 1

34. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


there were 10, one got removed early on.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 09:26

37. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


I thought there were meant to be 12?

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 14:04 1

47. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


In a civil trial there's usually 9

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 00:15 6

2. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1325; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


This isn't the end of it. I honestly believe this trial is really just a practice run for Apple to see if it could go after it's real game: Google.

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