Windows Phone will get a proper file manager
0. phoneArena 02 May 2014, 20:03 posted on
Joe Belfiore, Microsoft’s VP of Windows and User Experience held his “Ask Me Anything” on Reddit today...
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1. Lauticol (Posts: 195; Member since: 25 Jun 2011)
Wow, if WP keeps growing I'll consider it as the OS for my future phone
51. joey_sfb (Posts: 2921; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I already using Android and iOS, not investing on a third mobile OS.
Still this is good news for the competition.
56. Finalflash (Posts: 1760; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
It isn't good news for competition because all it says is that we learn 3 years after the competition does. If they released WP with all of this it would have been good for competition. Now it is just playing catch up by going slower than the competition....which is tragically not going to work.
69. haseebzahid (Posts: 1827; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
then u guess u dont even know a bit about MS at all. theoratically there stretegy must be first get a hold on nokia devices division. who knows all these features were ready back in 2011 just waited out nokia to give in then release all the good stuff.
2. magnanimus (Posts: 291; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
Windows Phone never had a file manager? I almost got one goddamit. Get it together Microsoft
3. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3059; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Windows Phone is all about what is good for Microsoft, not the user. The only reason they are adding a file manager is the sh!t storm of complaints they've gotten about the lack of one.
5. papss (unregistered)
Yeah that's way different than any other big mfg.. take your goggles off so you can see straight
8. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3059; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
It is not too difficult to understand that WP is a closed source, closed system OS, designed for the benefit of one company, Microsoft.
Android is an open source, open system OS that benefits a diverse ecosystem of companies. And Android has had a file manager for a long long time.
9. papss (unregistered)
Again... Are you saying that all mfg don't try to benefit themselves first? Lol please tell me more story's you believe are true.
12. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3059; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
The distribution of benefits through different mobile ecosystems is not the same. This is a very basic concept.
In Microsoft's WP ecosystem, almost all the benefits go to Microsoft. Why do you think no one wants to build phones for WP? Or why Microsoft had to pay Nokia $1B/yr to make Windows phones?
15. 12Danny123 (Posts: 86; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)
Actually 15 OEMs are building WPs including Sony. So your claim about OEMs not wanting to build for WP is pure bull
16. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
But still no one will be buying WP, cause WP is a closed restricted platform which public does not like
Even if every oems build one, it still won't sell, cause it has no major apps and games
21. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 938; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Yes, nobody wants closed. Meanwhile, in the real worl, Windows (Closed) is curb stomping everyone in the desktop/laptop arena except for Apple, whose OSX and Mac business (Closed) takes a hefty chunk of the profit out of the market.
In the mobile game, Apple's iOS (Closed) take's the lion's share of the profit, while Microsoft and Samsung take the rest.
So, to summarize, "Closed" dominates the tech world, while "Open" begs for a seat at the table. Of course nobody wants "Closed," judging by that summary.
23. express77 (unregistered)
But the closed desktop windows lets you do anything without stupid restrictions and you don't even have to root/windowbreak. But WP is also removing their restrictions. Will get one when all those restrictions are over.
22. bigdawg23 (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 May 2011)
IOS is closed so why do iPhones sell? There's no file manager on iOS. I went back to Android to have the ability to send documents in a replied email and also send over multiple doc files on a email.
31. Sauce (unregistered)
I have a File Manager on my iPhone 5s. It runs faster, smoother, and better than the File Manager on my Note.
67. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3249; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
o.O comparing Note 2 to iphone 5s
25. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1143; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
explain iOS closed restricted platform.
48. papss (unregistered)
Wait a minute... Did that keep you from buying your WP device or were you lying?
I still laugh at fandroids comments about games on a touch device lol..
42. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Sony has said that they will only build a WP if there is enough demand for it. They currently believe there is not enough market demand for one, and will thus stick with their "Android Only" strategy for the time being. They are even selling their loss-making pc platform, which only makes Windows pc's / laptops.
26. Gawain (Posts: 358; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)
You need to see a doctor about your myopic condition. Google has Android filled to the gills with data gathering algorithms. How do you think the company makes billions off of selling ads, while giving away use of Gmail, YouTube, Maps, Android Open Source Project? You think Android is this wonderful utopia? Larry Page has some beachfront property in Nebraska to sell you.
32. bon24x7 (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
Android is open..yet you need "Google" to release the new version of the OS for others OEMs to use em. "Microsoft" does the same thing too..Android offers customization, what else is open for the OEMs to change? AOSP is open..not the evil twin named Android from Google..!!! WP might be closed when it comes to customization, other than that its as open as Google's Android..What's locked is what needs to be locked and normal users needn't access for the proper functioning of the OS. If you're really geek enough, you can access anything on WP as well.
74. jroc74 (Posts: 4763; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
"Android is open..yet you need "Google" to release the new version of the OS for others OEMs to use em."
While that may be true....you as a consumer are free to compile your own version of Android for your own personal use...or as a fork if you want to get in the phone, tablet business.
Try that with WP and see what happens....
Btw...you do know what the A in AOSP stand for...right?
38. xoxoGeorges (Posts: 201; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
"Android is an open source, open system OS that benefits a diverse ecosystem of companies"
This is NOT Google's Android. You are talking about AOSP, which is short for Android Open Source Project.
Also, I don't get why end users care that much about Android being "open", they aren't going to develop for it or really benefit from the developer properties of Open Source. And you know, if companies as big as Apple and Windows are doing closed source software, it happens to be quite good.
44. Liveitup (Posts: 1232; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Windows Phone 8 has had file manager apps for as long as I have used it. It won't let you get into private parts with OS and other apps data, which after Androids "shady apps can do whatever they want with your device" I consider a good thing. Anything you would need to access, like documents / video / music is there along with OneDrive and lan shares.
Even before Belfiore announcement great third party file browsers like Aerize Explorer or FileEx etc was on WP.
You gotta lol at the Android fanboys who talk about WP when they haven't used it or they would know this.
75. jroc74 (Posts: 4763; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
For the record....you cant get into the private parts on Android either....unless you are rooted....
47. Liveitup (Posts: 1232; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
WP has many File managers the difference is that this one is native to WP whereas on Android you still have to download a 3rd party solution.
If im wrong about Android feel free to correct me no one is perfect, I've used many Android devices in the past but never saw a native File manager like what WP is bringing to the OS.
49. adwienc (Posts: 134; Member since: 26 Mar 2014)
Actually Samsung and LG phones have native file manager from very long
53. Awalker (Posts: 318; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
I think HTC has one too but they're all kind of crappy compared to the file managers in the play store.
59. Liveitup (Posts: 1232; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Yeah but like i said Android itself does not have a native File manager, just some different OEM's do.
68. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3249; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
all Samsung phones have built in and functional File manager. wake up.
76. jroc74 (Posts: 4763; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
On this I will agree with you.
Stock Android doesnt have a file manager.
4. papss (unregistered)
I tipped this one!! Excellent! Not that I care but this should shut up many I've seen criticizing wp for this very reason
6. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3059; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
The sad thing about Microsoft's file manager is the vast waste of screen real estate. Files/directories that might have fit on N screen pages with a more compact UI now fit on 3N to 4N pages instead. This results in additional cognitive load on the user who has to remember more because it is out of sight.
Of course, this sort of thing is generally true of WP. The UI might be easily visible, but there is of course a price to be paid.
7. papss (unregistered)
Wow they have to remember more because it's out of sight? Lay off the marijuana so you have a better memory.. way to reach.. if that's all you got I believe M$ will do just fine.
11. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3059; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
There are basic elements of UI design that you should consider learning about. One of them is cognitive load. Generally speaking, it is not a good thing to make the user switch screens many times or have to remember things that could have been easily shown on the screen.
Just like computers, human brains have a limited amount of processing power (as further discussed in our course on The Human Mind and Usability). When the amount of information coming in exceeds our ability to handle it, our performance suffers. We may take longer to understand information, miss important details, or even get overwhelmed and abandon the task.
In the field of user experience, we use the following definition: the cognitive load imposed by a user interface is the amount of mental resources that is required to operate the system. Informally, you can think of mental resources as "brain power" — more formally, we're talking about slots in working memory.
14. papss (unregistered)
Again lay off the marijuana dude.. if it's to much for YOU to remember or it puts strain on your brain I feel sorry for you and I surely hope you are not using an android based drvice.
17. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3059; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Lol. Someone has marijuana on their brain, but it's not me :)
18. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Don't waste your time arguing with these WP fanboys.
If they want to waste their times scrolling when they can have all the information needed efficiently displayed in one place, let them scroll, dude. It's their choice.
19. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
There so jelly of Android, cause they wished they had all the features of Android!
Even having a file manager won't help WP regain 10% share, let alone having no apps and games
The ugly bathroom tiles are hideous, confusing weired messy and all over the place
Drop down notification is the best
20. AJagtiani (Posts: 463; Member since: 24 Apr 2014)
Jelly of Android? Haha you're high right?
10. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Man, hitting full speed and 8.1 isn't even officially out yet. So to keep count, they've improved multitasking to be fully functional, improved IE, added cortana, improved social extensibility for the long haul, improved customization, and will have a file manager by months end. The future holds interactive live tiles, live tiles that can transfer info from windows to windows phone, and integration with RT.
27. csoulr666 (Posts: 89; Member since: 04 Nov 2013)
What people don't realize is that this is a step forward in the right direction. WP8 is about an year old......
Android at this stage wasn't refined to the extent WP8 is now. You keep such high expectations for anything not Android/iOS that you don't want to see the bigger picture.
Yes, WP8 is closed source and so is Windows Xp/7/8,but you don't complain about that do you?
55. Awalker (Posts: 318; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Huh? Windows has been on the consumer phone market for almost four years now.
78. Xen0F0rm (Posts: 7; Member since: 05 Feb 2014)
Windows Phone 8 has been out for four years now? News to me. Or maybe you should learn to read the OP.
28. AJagtiani (Posts: 463; Member since: 24 Apr 2014)
More reasons for me to ditch my S4 & switch to WP8.1. :)
64. wilsong17 (Posts: 908; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)
Nobody is missing u dumbas you buy we you like
30. pureviewuser (Posts: 141; Member since: 11 Nov 2012)
Well done ms now your are going on the right direction.
33. sip1995 (Posts: 819; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
I don't really need this but I'm okay with this.
35. Sriniva1995 (Posts: 33; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)
Hey apple dies the same bull s**t, "closed platform" yet they are a hit only due to their app store featuring a million apps....... hmm think about it.
36. sip1995 (Posts: 819; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
Enough with the closed platform thing, normal people 1) don't really know what "closed platform" means and 2) they don't care if their phone have closed platform.
65. elitewolverine (Posts: 1594; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Not really closed platform, when you can dev unlock your phone for free and then develop and install any app you want...
77. jroc74 (Posts: 4763; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Since its not as easy to side load apps on WP.....by definition it is a closed platform in comparison to Android.
37. xoxoGeorges (Posts: 201; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
People will always find ways to complain.