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Windows Phone picks up market share in Q3 while iOS and Android are flat

0. phoneArena 05 Nov 2013, 19:06 posted on

According to research firm Canalys, Windows Phone picked up some market share in the third quarter while iOS and Android remained flat; shipments of Windows Phone flavored handsets rose a stunning 185% to 9.2 million units globally in the third quarter. That allowed Microsoft's mobile OS to own 4% of the global smartphone market for the three months through September...

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posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:08 3

1. 1113douglas (Posts: 193; Member since: 04 Jul 2013)

android now has 80% market share and increasing. Wow.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:21 14

2. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

I wouldn't say increasing if it remained the same.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:33 6

4. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)

Because of Nokia.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:37 2

5. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Android's market share is 80% and rising because of... Nokia? Are you drunk?

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 20:21 11

12. Gaurav008 (Posts: 328; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

*The Android marketshare has remained flat because of Nokia.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 20:59 1

17. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

You need to learn how to read. I was simply restating what he said, in case it wasn't obvious.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:30 6

23. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


I'm saying to this article.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 22:44 2

30. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)


WP8 to be promoted, needs great hardware. Only Nokia camera wouldn't help much.(besides it's not very visible in the real life, that it's better than other brands. It's more like a myth)
Nokia pushed away from WP8 all the other OEM , because of the marriage with MS. No competition there.
So Nokia must make first, a high-end device with SD support, swappable battery, thin bezels, light, high specs, good battery. PERIOD.
Trying to be Apple , but not having zombies like Apple, will kill Nokia(like HTC is dead). And even MS can't help it.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:30 1

37. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

No. No. No..

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 20:16 5

11. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

If the average consumer only knew all of their options.. That's why I always say that Microkia does a horrible job marketing.. If people knew what WP had to offer then Android wouldn't have made it to 80% market share..

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 12:13 1

40. jroc74 (Posts: 6004; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

I think we underestimate the average consumer.

Look how Android grew....despite the iPhone phenomenon. WP phones are on display just like every other phone in carriers, in Walmart, ect.

I know its shocking for some ppl to understandl, but some ppl just like Android that much. And dont really care for WP or any mobile device from Microsoft.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 20:41 3

15. londoner (Posts: 34; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)

Android is became to be borig

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 22:03 5

28. sckortyman (Posts: 23; Member since: 19 Sep 2013)

really? more boring than windows phone? If android ever becomes boring you can do so many things to change it. Good luck customizing your bland windows phone.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 01:34 2

33. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)

I'd sooner have security versus customization. Chances are that your personal data is being bled all over the net, via Android ;o)

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:31 6

3. crazymonkey05 (Posts: 178; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)

I thought windows phone was going to be a flop but Microsoft has proved me wrong. I personally don't like windows phone but I guess the population does and that's good for Microsoft :)

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:39 5

6. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

4% in two years isn't something I would write home about.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:49 5

9. Finalflash (Posts: 3084; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

Well they were a little late to the party, so on an uphill climb I guess it's worth something. Problem is that they are mainly making this off the low end devices and that market is way too frugal to yield any positive results money wise. Since market share really doesn't help MS and they are trying to go the Apple route and make money on hardware, they really need to step up their high end game somehow.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 20:26 7

13. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

Considering the position MS has to play in the market they are doing good.. Microkia isn't playing the same game, in the same market that Android was when it was new, and Microkia definitely isn't playing the same game as Apple did.. That's why I always say that it's dumb for iDroid fans to compare, and judge WP as far a market share.. WP deserves respect in its own right, and it is very good, and had seriously way more to offer than 90% of people who have smartphones will ever use.. So, its not a matter of apps, or features, and that's a old misconception now with WP8... It's all about marketing, awareness, and popularity at this point.. If MS can increase those three things, and keep hammering out terrific Lumia devices, they could reach double digit market share way before the conservative 2017 date.. At this rate, if WP market share begins to raise, and compound on itself, I don't see it couldn't be at over 10% by the end of 2015.. But marketing, and awareness are critical❗

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:02 3

19. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Apps is pretty much the reason why people don't use WP8. Apps found on iOS or Android are nowhere to be found on the Windows Store.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:22 4

21. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

They are the reason a small amount of people don't use WP.. You're to stuck in a phone enthusiasts, tech site reading, US centric, Android world way of thinking.. I'm talking about the reality of the situation, and 8 out of 10 adults don't bother with a fraction of the apps that you do.. Adults make up the vast majority of smartphone sales, and middle, older, and elder age adults vastly out number young adults, and teenagers.. Wake up..

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:27 3

22. Finalflash (Posts: 3084; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

Respectfully, I don't think apps are the issue, most people only use a handful of apps and those are mostly available on WP. The issue here is that MS has no strategy or inspiration beyond money. They want to make money like Apple does but by not offering anything amazing or new. Android at least offers the alternative of customization and several device manufacturers while Apple provides a single device with solid reliability and familiarity. MS is trying to copy Apple's hardware strategy with a bit of Google's software versatility. But no one wants a half ass copy of both, people want a viable and exciting alternative. What does WP offer that the other two platforms don't? Why should I (or anyone) switch over when WP does what either Apple or Android do only half as well? It is a lack of imagination and inspiration that is killing MS. They aren't inventing things, just trying to budge into someone else's brain child and inspiration.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:38 5

25. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

Yeah, that holds no water... Nokia Lumia devices are some of the most innovative devices around.. Those are WP devices❕

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 23:24 2

31. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2183; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)

The biggest problem for WP is that the best-selling WP handset is the Lumia 520, which is an almost zero profit device that only shows off one feature: Cheap. People who use that phone aren't buying into the ecosystem or filling the coffers in any way. Microkia needs a flagship hit, and soon.

I, and others like me, are the customers they need, not the $99 crowd. I buy multiple phones a year and buy apps and content. Until they start grabbing those customers, this growth is a Pyrrhic victory.

I would like to try again (920 was my last), but I'm not interested in a 6" device with the latest specs (1520) or paying full price for a phone that won't get LTE on my network (929). Their roll outs need lots of work.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 01:45 1

34. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)

You are incorrect about the 520 not mattering for victory in the smartphone race: cutting out the lower legs of android is half the battle, and serves to halt the appeal and mass distribution of such devices, as lower end WP devices are clearly superior in terms of their effective performance.

The high end Nokia WP flagships are starting to show up, and the Lumia 1520 can easily go toe to toe with the Note 3, and the L929 against the S4, and even the soon to be released S5. Microsoft has been given a huge boost by Nokia's ability to design quality hardware, and now the rest of the game will mostly be about marketing, and OS updates.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:46

38. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

I agree with you halfway.. A hit high end device in the US could be very good for the platform, but MS is focusing on new smartphone adopters, and a lot of those are in emerging markets.. MS focus isn't on getting people to switch, from iDroid as much as they are looking for first time users in emerging markets like India, south America, and Africa.. What you Android fans don't understand is that at this stage MS isn't concerned with profit, rather MS. Because MS spells popularity, and popularity is what will cause mature markets to adopt WP in higher rates.. So, in essence MS is trying to become popular in key markets with the expectation that that worldwide popularity will finally catch on in the US, and China, where people generally are more $heep like.. And, we've seen this before,, the US is always slow to catch on to what's going on around the world... This is the best plan for Microkia going forward because the US, and China, markets are just to saturated with iDroid devices right now.. But, recent numbers have showed that iDroid may be peaking, and that leaves room for something interesting, and new.. Its almost guaranteed at this point that if someone doesn't choose a iDroid device then its going to be a WP devices,, so here we are...

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:41 9

7. darkkjedii (Posts: 21200; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Nokia's making a major comeback. This cannot be denied.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:47 5

8. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

I wouldn't say major, but slowly merging back to the market. The 520 is the little engine that could.

Side note: Haven't seen you around these past few days. What's up man?

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 19:50

10. Finalflash (Posts: 3084; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

Oh he has been here...

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 20:33 2

14. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

I wouldn't say amazing, but I definitely wouldn't say they are slowly merging back into the market.. After all the we are talking about the World market here, and not just the US.. Have you seen the progress that WP is making in various markets around the world. WP Has surpassed iOS in some markets.. No, I take that back. They are doing an amazing job.. You need to stop looking at everything in such a US centric way, and stop being so critical, and negative, about WP.. I can see where you are trying to be civil, but you need to open your eyes a little further.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:06 3

20. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Who said I was looking at things from a centric way? What's Nokia's world market share? WP8? Oh and please spare me the "stop being so critical, and negative," bs. You're trying way too hard to support something that isn't that successful. Face it, WP8 is growing a hell lot slower than people thought it would.

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:34 4

24. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

You are looking at it from a Us centric way.. You're not acknowledge the fact that its doing well in other parts of the world. And, yes its taken some time for it to start doing well, but nobody on here is arguing, or even brought that up but you.. That's the past, and this article is talking about what's happening now.. So, yes I'm sticking up for what WP is doing now, and I'm obviously not naive in doing so because every week we see multiple articles about WP making progress.. But, there's always some hater like you that's on every WP article being negative, and bringing up irrelevant things just because you feel threatened buy WP actually becoming successful.. Go back and look at every one of your comments about WP and tell me if you have a unnecessarily negative outlook about it. Then go look at the last 5 Android articles and tell me if you find even ONE WP fan being negative like you.. Why would a WP fan even put forth the effort that you do? The answer is in what you're intentions are,, and that's just to be a petty, negative, scared, immature, hater.. Sorry, if I'm out of line, or rude, but you Android fans are just plain childish, and annoying.. Don't argue with me,, do something worthwhile and redeem yourself..

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 12:55 1

41. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Alright, here we go.

4% world market share isn't something to get excited about. Great that they're above Apple in some countries. Problem is, globally, they're not. Have you read the article about Android being the fastest growing product in history? No? Well here you go. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-is-the-fastest-growing-product-in-tech-history_id49089

Android had to play against iOS, BBM, and Symbian in late 2008/early 2009. Guess where it's at now? 81% market share. 81 percent. Can you stop being a blind hater and accept the fact that WP, even after two years, is not successful as everyone thought it would be?

Instead of being so damn angry and mad with global market share, how about educating yourself with facts and learning more about technology. When you do, then you can reply to me and start a conversation. If you're just going to reply to me and try to "bash" me, I'll let you on a little secret: don't start an debate with me because I guarantee you I'll win.

My work here is done, well for now.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 17:05

45. Dastrix (unregistered)

Needless to say it, but I'm going to say it again. iOS' worldwide market share of 14% is dangerously close to WP's 4%. Lumia sales have skyrocketed, are are already up 200%. Analysts predict an even higher upward trend for 2014. That certainly translates to WP gaining market share at the expense of iOS. Android aside, 4% IS substantial when talking about iOS. It's just the beginning, and yet, results are already showing an irrevocable upward trend for WP leading into Q1 2014, while iOS stays practically stagnant (comparatively speaking).

P.S. Oh so you wanted facts? Well, buddy, here's facts for you. You seem confident of yourself. Yet, it saddens me that YOU are the uneducated one, and playing it on the defensive at that, without even considering the fact that being irrelevant and quite frankly, a total retard, since you're simply too caught up in the fact that any arguments against your ideals hinders your rationale and thought-process, is hilarious. So you hoped to 'win' that debate you failed to start in the first place with that? Think again, retard. You're probably feeling nervous at the moment, but we've had a good time laughing at your failures at life. Thank you. Round of applause for the most idiotic comment. Almost brings a tear to my eye. Do come back for more humiliation.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 01:50 2

35. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)

WP8 is growing slower than people thought it would? Far as I know, it's on track to have about 20 percent by 2016. You are mistaken if you think there will be linear growth patterns: once it reaches critical mass, there will be a strong upsurge in the number of WP devices entering the market. The fact is that Android has basically reached it's peak, and is unlikely to continue upward market share growth. That also means it might be time to start taking profits from selling your GOOG shares ;o)

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 20:42 1

16. londoner (Posts: 34; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)

Android is became to be boring...

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:00 3

18. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Then don't use Android?

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:42 2

26. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

But, you comment as though you have to use WP.. You don't like WP❔ You judge a platform by how well it sales❔.. Then stick with Android.. Android sucks, so why would a WP fan care to comment on every Android article like you do WP articles❔ Just to be a hater..

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 22:13 1

29. cc3493 (Posts: 158; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

unrelated: why do you always have squares in your comments?

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 01:51 1

36. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)

PapaSmurf is one of Sammy's paid minions, whilst TROLL is busy taking holidays ;o)

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:51 1

39. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

I can see that being possible..

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 12:58

43. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

If Samsung were paying me, trust me buddy, I wouldn't even bother to talk good about Apple, Sony, Asus, LG, etc.

Just another hater to add to my list. Congrats pal.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 12:57 1

42. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)

I honestly think you're plain stupid.

"Android is became to be boring..."

If something has become boring to use, then don't use it. Period. There's other options available, to knock yourself out.

There, do you understand my original comment now, or do you want me to further explain it for you?

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 21:43

27. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)

What's your point here❔

posted on 05 Nov 2013, 23:42 1

32. shreyas.s666 (Posts: 80; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)

your comments are too boring

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 13:28

44. Zimakool (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)

0mg! Just buy the phone that fits your needs, everyone isn't going to agree on everything , thank goodness we have the option to choose, I personally can't stand windows I hate it, always have & always will. I hate the new window 8 I won't even use my laptop because of it. I like the idea of the phone but like I said I've never liked windows. Good luck to micro soft they deserve their time in the spotlight to. after all there's room for all the systems

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