Windows Phone passes BlackBerry in latest comScore report
0. phoneArena 07 Mar 2014, 11:46 posted on
The latest comScore report shows that Windows Phone has surpassed BlackBerry in U.S. smartphone market share. For the three months ended in January, Windows Phone averaged a 3.2% slice of the pie. While that was flat from the 3.2% that Microsoft's mobile OS scored on average for the three months ended in October, BlackBerry's share tumbled .5 percentage points during the same time period to 3.1%...
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1. Johnnokia (Posts: 476; Member since: 27 May 2012)
I though that happened since 9 months.
Perhaps that was the selling market share
4. Johnnokia (Posts: 476; Member since: 27 May 2012)
Yes. I think so. However, it is really a tough path ahead for BlackBerry
7. akki20892 (Posts: 3296; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
They are missing apps that's a only thing they having a problem with sales.
Except porting android apps. Because it's a different story, not a blackberry store apps.
13. axllebeer (Posts: 265; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)
What? It's like, everywhere lol.
Did I miss something?
5. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2415; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
I so hope BlackBerry can recover... I still think I like their OS the most. If BB 10's design and functions could be somehow be combined with Android customization and apps, it would be the perfect OS for me!
15. Finalflash (Posts: 1540; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Services as mentioned, as well as different design to interface. Maybe a customized keyboard and unique hardware design. There really isn't much else they can do even with their own proprietary OS. With their own OS they literally release a slightly different experience with a lot less maturity in apps.
9. Deaconclgi (Posts: 220; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Woo Hoo!!!! Symbian is holding strong!!! Goooooo Nokia 808 PureView!!
10. akki20892 (Posts: 3296; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
That's what symbian do. Never let self die. Still 0.2% it's surprising.
11. axllebeer (Posts: 265; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)
Well BlackBerry lost to Apple so really Windows Phone didn't go anywhere. Loosing to Apple or Android is just a given these day. The mighty top 2 gobble a few more points.
This is no real victory for Windows Phone, they remained stagnant. I suppose it's a minor victory that they didn't also loose some to Apple or Android.
14. elitewolverine (Posts: 1299; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
I could talk more about the math but in the end, the percentage stayed the same but they gained users.
25. Glim12808 (Posts: 393; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
You're actually spot on. You did not only look at the figures but you also gave them the correct interpretation.
29. clodderes (Posts: 27; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)
well... even the mighty android lose to apple. so in this sense. wp is doing good
16. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 690; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)
Windows Phone doing alright... The Windows Phone user experience is only going to get better and better, however it IS NOT for everyone. It is stupid to hear people say one OS is better than the other. It is all about preference.
The people that have the technological know how and the confidence to break from the pack and try something new will likely be rewarded in trying a new OS. It is, for me, the most organized and efficient phone (for both personal and professional use.)
18. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Not a WP fan, but I can agree with this.
For me, the biggest turn offs are the Live Tiles, no extra home screens, the minimalistic look of the UI. MS seems to really like the vertical scroll. Even with Win Mo...I really didnt like it back then. A grid just seems more efficient to me....fit more on screen vs a vertical scrolling list.
I was about to post if Android just disappeared overnight....WP would be my next phone. Maybe BB. I tried the iPhone...just didnt work out. WP and Android seems to use actual common sense in the Settings.
But now...thinking about the Live Tiles and the app drawer....the iPhone might feel better to me. Now I dont know what I would do...lol.
23. AfterShock (Posts: 2530; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
I was in agreement with you, right up to the iPhone part.
We have been this patient with wm ahem wp.
A year from now as many have said over the last three,
but I believe to hold water now, will make a big difference.
GUI still makes me shudder.
26. Glim12808 (Posts: 393; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
The start screen in WP stretches down limitless so it doesn't need extra home screens. The effort in scrolling to get to the next home screen is not much different from scrolling to get to the next set of tiles. Also, with re-sizable tiles, you can fit in as many, if not more, tiles as Android and iOS. With an added tile across in WP8.1, this will get even better. In short, I don't agree with what you said. I've extensively used both Android and WP and a little iOS (no BB experience whatsoever) so I know where I'm speaking from.
17. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
So is this finally the beginning of WP's rise?
I think BB is done. I think another thing ppl overlook is before the iPhone, Android launched the smartphone market was split a lil more evenly. 3rd place had some one in the teens and 4th had someone almost in the teens. I think 1-2 was in the 30's and 20's.
I dont remember a time when 1-2 dominated so big for so long
Even with the growth of the overall market....its still amazing 1-2 are so far out in front.
21. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
WinPhone remained stagnant. Don't see where you are getting growth from. And BlackBerry will be ok.. John Chen is having the company make a lot of good moves. Worse case senario for BlackBerry is that if they don't come back up in the consumer market, they will make it in the prosumer market and withdraw from the consumer market.
22. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I meant growth of the overall smartphone market. Meaning there are more smartphone users now than say 5 or 8 years ago.
My first sentence....was meant to be a dig at those saying WP is on the rise for the past 2 years.... :-)
24. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Ah...ok. Thank you for the clarification. :)
27. Glim12808 (Posts: 393; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
You, @thealphageek1 and @jroc74, are both forgetting that over-all user base of smartphones actually increased so it means that WP really gained more users compared to the previous quarter as tracked by comScore.
To put it clearly, if you extract the 3.2% from the previous quarter and then do the same and extract 3.2% from the present quarter with the bigger user base, lo and behold, you'll discover that WP has grown.
Now do the same thing with BB's 3.6% in comScore's previous quarter and the 3.1% in their present quarter, Lo and behold, you'll discover they not only did NOT retain their user base but actually lost plenty of them.
30. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Yes, but now Windows actually isn't growing anymore. The latest stats show that Windows largest manufacturer, Nokia, actually sold less than the previous quarter. I think that unless WinPhone OEM's come out with some amazing hardware, they will no longer grow. The software is coming along nicely, though. WinPhone 8.1 looks very promising. Wouldn't it be great if WinPhone received features on par with WinPro?
35. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I agree....I even mentioned the overall base when I said there are more smartphone users now vs years ago.
Its growing....but the growth is still small IMO.
Compare it to Android and the iPhone. Think about where the iPhone and Android were at in 2010....in comparison.....its almost no competition vs those 2.
19. apiskula (Posts: 565; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
Is anyone really surprised? Blackberry is dead!
20. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
There you go trolling again. Wishful thinking if you think BlackBerry is done.
28. Glim12808 (Posts: 393; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Yes, I agree with you @thealphageek1 that BB is not dead but that doesn't change the fact that at this point it is still dying fast. I am a WP fan but that doesn't mean I want BB to die. It is for this reason I defended Microsoft allowing BB to make an app for OneDrive in the BB store in all the WP forums because Microsoft received a lot of flak for allowing it.
31. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
I agree that BlackBerry is having troubles in the consumer market. But when it comes to the enterprise / prosumer market, they are alive and doing better. BlackBerry is actually focusing on the prosumer market more than the consumer market at this point, as that is where there bread and butter is. Worse case scenario, they withdraw from the consumer market entirely and just remain in the prosumer market. They can still survive and be a very healthy company there. Most people miss the point that there is more than just the consumer market where you can have a thriving business. FYI: I am huge BlackBerry fan, and I am also a WinPhone fan. My go-to devices are the BlackBerry Z10 and the Nokia Lumia 925. My tablets are the Dell Venue 8 Pro and the Amazon Kindle Fire HDX.
33. pureviewuser (Posts: 122; Member since: 11 Nov 2012)
Nokia and ms do something extra special we're miles behind oh we'll done apple and samsung .we need take a page out of their book