Windows Phone Tango might intro a new chassis, phones with the Apollo update to appear in Q4
He mentions that phones with Apollo are not likely to come before Q4 of this year, with current expectations for it to be ready mid-June. That could be too late, considering that Apollo is said to introduce multicore chipsets and HD screens support - things that come standard now in all high-end Androids.
As for the Tango update, which will allow Windows Phone to be run on lower screen resolutions and sub-1GHz processors, he thinks it will be meant for a separate breed of WP handsets with different chassis. This might introduce fragmentation in the so far coherent world of Windows Phone, but not if such handsets are almost exclusively geared towards emerging markets.
Another interesting part is the confirmation that the Nokia Lumia 900 and the HTC Titan 2 were outed with LTE connectivity and the HTC handset with whopping 16MP camera because support for those features has been lying dormant in the current Mango version, while it was previously thought that these will be introduced at CES with the Tango update.
1. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5540; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
well OEMs should probably be working on powerful WP handsets now so i'm sure they'll hit the rumor mill in the next couple of months. looking forward to it. my Droid 4/Razr goal might be the last Android phones i think about getting...sort of. i'll still be a fan of Android if i do go WP7 but then again i might be so blown away by ICS that i change my mind, we'll see.
2. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
hm i really hope micrsoft doesnt fragment the os.. thats one of the main selling points over android (speedy updates and such)
4. snowgator (Posts: 3188; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I don't want any changes at the cost of updates and security. That is for sure, Lucas.
3. snowgator (Posts: 3188; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Everything I have heard about Tango is that it is geared to the emerging markets that Nokia wants to own. There are a couple of posters on here that think it is a waste of time to be putting a specific OS iteration just for low end phones, but it was part of the deal to get Nokia on the WP bandwagon exclusively.
Fragmentation is going to happen to some degree in WP, it is unavoidable if you want to compete with Android. OEMs have to have a way to put their fingerprints on WP to really call those devices their own and appeal to buyers. Without that, it is just a matter of the same OS and the hardware you like. That will limit the pool of those that might want it, assuring a third place in sales will be the best WP can do. I love WP, so I am fine with it. But someone like Christian Qwerty who posts here a lot and whom I respect just got a little bored with it and moved on. Microsoft has to let these OEMs some creative room. These guys from Samsung, HTC, LG and emerging handset makers like ZTE and Fujitsu can really add flare to WP if MS lets them, and that will help with sales and improvements. I do not want WP to become as fragmented, I want Microsoft to be overall in control of the hardware requirements. So maybe Android will always be ahead in tech advancements, pushing the limits of mobile while WP moves a little slower. But WP will always be greatly supported and a smooth experience. It is that fine line WP is trying to find: supported and secure like iOS while allowing some of the advantages of open source. Will be really fun to see what WP brings with Apollo and how the Tango gamble pays off.
By the way, Q4 doesn't sound right for WP8's release. Maybe June is a little early, but I am betting on a August launch, with updates taking a little longer to get to present devices than Mango did.
Dang I can ramble. Sorry gang.....
5. Penny (Posts: 1100; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
It would be great if WP7 allowed for OEMs to customize the software on their product without affecting the underlying OS. The goal is to have a variety of options in the market for each type of user, but at the same time allow for Microsoft to push universal updates and features.
That would be the ideal balance in my mind, but it is obviously easier said than done. I don't think this will be possible with WP7, but who knows, it may become possible with Apollo. I'm hoping that if Apollo is indeed based on the same kernel as Windows 8, then OEMs and software developers could have the type of free reign to create powerful software that they currently do in the PC space.
6. ReturningToNokia (Posts: 130; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
It's Paul Thurrott - You know, where you automatically know to take a grain of salt with the things he reports on. He also said Mango wouldn't hit until late 2011 early 2012.
7. Penny (Posts: 1100; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
It is difficult for me to speculate on the potential for fragmentation with Windows Phone mostly because I don't know exactly what space Tango is meant for. At this point, it could be the same Windows Phone 7 with a lower resolution and lower specs, or it could be a simplified version of WP7 with lower resolution and lower specs, or it could even be a significantly different product that is meant for feature-phones, a possibility given Nokia's presence in the global feature-phone market.
8. flopjoke (Posts: 42; Member since: 05 Jan 2012)
Sounds like Nokrosoft is going in full steam. But will "Tango" still be Windows Phone 7.xx? It seems so.
I can't wait for Windows Phone 8. When they finally bring colorful live tiles. Oh well, at least that's the idea you get from Windows 8.
9. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1044; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
Sub-1GHz processors? Windows Phone or not, it's 2012 and anything under 1GHz shouldn't be in a smartphone anymore. Heck, I mean by Q3 dual-core androids will probably look dated!