Windows Phone GDR3 to bring 5-, 6-inch devices later this year, Windows Phone Blue will introduce notification center in 2014
0. phoneArena 12 Jul 2013, 07:04 posted on
Windows Phone 8 was a huge update over the initial WP7 bringing support for key features like multi-core processors and microSD cards…
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1. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
now hopefully other oem jump into WP as WP RISES
THE RETURN OF KING NOKIA
6. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)
Go wp! Go wp!
Let beats IOS and Android!
36. Wiki_jaan (Posts: 704; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)
lol........................ but love to have nokia L1020
7. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
I hope no "King" rises. Competition is always a good thing, having a monopoly is horrible. Just see Verizon/AT&T who have a duopoly on the wireless industry in America. Horrible customer service, each raising prices has they wish and not having to compete seriously with each other because the other also raises there prices when the other does.
Or Samsung who pretty much has a Monopoly on the Android market. They haven't released anything inventive in a while.
10. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
completely agree.but as elop said NOKIA wants to stop sammy apple duopoly
16. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
True, a Duopoly between Samsung and Apple sucks, I just hope we don't get another Duopoly/Monopoly after getting rid of the former. :/
49. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Apple's breaking its own duopoly portion by itself
13. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I'd be thrilled with a 50% Android, 25% WP, 25% iPhone market. Anything is better than the current (or at least until Nokia went WP) duopoly.
18. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
Lol, so there's no BlackBerry OS in your perfect world? :P
I'd like to see it become a 4 way tie between the OS's.
21. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Nope, sorry. BlackBerry is bankrupt in my perfect world. They pissed away 2 years in the delay between BB7 and BB10. Maybe I'll let Firefox have 10%. ;)
33. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I'm only looking a year or two down the road. Ubuntu will have a tough uphill climb, even with wide support.
35. threed61 (Posts: 192; Member since: 27 May 2011)
Ubuntus mission of using only free and open source will cut it off from most major apps. And most of their knock offs aren't very good. Ubuntu touch is lovely, as is Sailfish, but if lack of apps as hurt WP, what will it do to them.
50. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I'd like to see 44% each Android and WP, 10% blackberry or Sailfish, and 2% ios
57. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Now that's dreaming. No way is Blackberry going to beat iOS.
43. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1031; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
I like what Windows phone is doing, but my issues with the OS is its "Youth", screen size, and internal specs. Im a big guy with big hands so I cant have a small phone to use on a regular basis. Offering better internal specs like a quad-core processor, SD card capability, and at least 2GB RAM AND its screen size is 4.9in or larger for some of their models would make me think twice about staying with android.
I have a Windows 7 laptop at home so it would be hard to use a phone that'll integrate within each other just as easy as google does. i think that the OS looks better than Android and Apple and to have updates in real time is a cool feature
51. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
With the Lumia 1020 having 2GB of RAM and large-screens and quad cored being confirmed, it looks like your next smartphone might be Windows Phone. Embrace the #Switch
58. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1031; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
I'll have to see it in person to consider making the switch
4. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
due to windows age. It´s still a young system but with every update they add more and more. I don´t understand this hated toward microsoft. Is it due to their infamous history related to pc market?
Android didn´t look too well at this stage of its existence. Ics was the first really good version of google´s system.
After donut, froyo, gingerbread and other minor updates.
The direction wp is heading is different from android´s. It was meant to be as simple and effective/flukd as it could get. Now, it´s time to polish it and add some customization.
9. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
coz they are aware that WP has potential to be no.1 OS.
they dont want their android to be overtaken.
full offence this time for WP haters
17. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
"I don´t understand this hated toward microsoft. Is it due to their infamous history related to pc market?"
I think you hit the nail on the head. That's pretty much why I've seen people dislike WP8, because they dislike Windows 8 they assume they won't like this OS which looks just like it (but preforms much differently, it's almost like comparing iOS to Mac OS in that regard, IMO). Windows Phone is much easier to use but people don't give it a chance due to having "already" used it on there computer.
22. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
And I find the Metro interface works better on a phone than a PC or even a tablet. But even I would have a hard time embracing Windows Phone because it's still Windows. It's a silly prejudice, I know. But (stock) Android appeals to the anti-establishment geek in me in a way WP8 never could.
24. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
hmm what how big you want wp to get 5-6 " is huge no after that windows tablets are like 8" and onward
resolution there is no need to bring ultra HD to phones its overkill and no point since humans dont see at micro level
34. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
FHD on 5-6" is not overkill, ask any owner and they'll tell you they notice the difference going back to low-res. At the end of the day it's the content that matters and we're used to view stuff on 1080p on TV, monitor and laptop, therefore it's the resolution to have on tablets and phones as well. Smaller the screen the closer it is to your eyes, so it's not a size thing but a content thing.
What I don't understand is why can't W8 devices scale like Android? I'm sure Nokia would've wanted to release a 1080p screen, or Sammy who like to be first at everything, but there are the restrictions, and I simply wonder why.
3. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
if u take a closer look,NOKIA WORLD and GDR3 seems to be held at same time.maybe in sep-oct.
1080p,4.7inch,quad core s800,GDR3,12-16mp pureview cam,oh wat an excellent device this turns out to be.
11. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Nokia and WP haters will knock their heads against the wall when this comes out.
14. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
no.they will not fight anymore as nothing will be left to brag about.they will switch like me.
15. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
First, they will knock their heads against the wall, then, they will switch to a Lumia.
28. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Hahahah you guys make me chuckle I switched I regretted as the OS is boring and lacks features so I switched back to android!
45. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4271; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I would, but the OS is terrible. Lack of features and a bad UI. Specs mean nothing if you don't have a quality OS to use them.
52. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
No, it isn't even remotely terrible. Terrible is like Windows Mobile 5, Android cupcake, Series 40 on an older device, ios, one of the palm iterations, etc.
54. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4271; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I'm sure a lot of people would enjoy WP, but I don't, not even close. I should have clarified that it was my unusually negative opinion.
56. yahoo29 (Posts: 71; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)
Yah, I think nxt year i will #switchtolumia too.
20. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
GDR3 is more than just about specs, IMO. While quad-core is great for performance, it's also good on battery life (Think of it this way; The S800 is faster, has better graphics, and is lighter on the battery than the S600. Just see all of the articles about the S4 LTE-Advanced).
I don't think more cores/higher clock speed necessarily means a lose in battery life. If anything, using a newer technology from Qualcomm with enhanced architecture, better preformance/wireless speed, will improve battery life.
That's why I think Windows Phone needs to support Quadcore devices. If nothing else, for the battery life boost it *will* give (just look at all of the android devices using the S600/S800, they have pretty much the same battery has those devices that had duel-core chips yet are giving the same or better battery life).
5. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3702; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Good going, but hurry up or else WP and Nokia will be just like BB.
8. boosook (Posts: 1415; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Here we go, the notification center is coming, the other Android features will follow. ;)
12. papss (unregistered)
But will it ever be enough for these my space tweakers? Most certainly not... They will cry and troll until they are blue in the face.
53. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Yeah, like the ios apologists not long ago (where did most of them go? Oh yeah, back under the bridge or into the woodwork). What scares me is that we might be like that someday, though unlike them, we've been through the downfall of our favorite OS (Symbian) and stayed true to its successor, much to our satisfaction.
19. apnwp (Posts: 10; Member since: 11 May 2013)
Does Lumia 920 will support this fking blue...:(
25. DFranch (Posts: 198; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
Yes, 920 will get the Blue update. MS just extended the WP8 support timeframe to 36 months. 920 will get updates for over 2 more years.
23. daniel_bargs (Posts: 325; Member since: 27 Nov 2010)
Releasing a half-baked OS. These features are present from Android way back 2011! Too excited to release something, can't catch up with Android and iOS. No multitasking, no SD card in some phones and version, no groundbreaking phone specs, no capability for groundbreaking specs and so much more! hays.
26. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
maybe you could do a little effort and read through previous comments? Saying it´s too late is like saying there´s no space left neither for innovation nor new ideas. Android won´t last forever. I thought Symbian will stay till the same end but someone put an end to it. The same can happen to android. There´s always a place to do sth new and different. There´s always time and space to catch up. If you keep the pace you can be competetive. I think microsoft knows that and they put too much on the table to cancell the whole project.
41. rfrapp (Posts: 77; Member since: 10 Jun 2010)
Half-baked my a**. The Windows Phone OS is beautiful, and it's less than three years old. Android didn't have anywhere near as many features as Windows Phone at this stage. By the way, Windows Phone has multitasking. When an article says: "better multitasking," it's not saying that the OS didn't have multitasking at all.
"no SD card in some phones and version"
Really? First of all, no phones have an SD card slot. The have microSD. Second, not every android phone has a microSD card slot (HTC One).
"no capability for groundbreaking phone specs"
Funny, I thought this article was about Windows Phone getting an upgrade in specs. Guess that means there is a capability for the OS to gain "groundbreaking specs."
30. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
This thing why no other OEMs are switching is because the market is dominated by Nokia.......they stand no chance of even competing whereas with android many OEMs CAN compete with Samsung! Besides all these new features will mean is WPI lags more....more features=more lag!
44. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
can? O rlyy? Samsung has dominated android scene and htc, lg and others are struggling touching the bottom, humilated. Maybe some chinese oems will grab some piece of this lucrative pie but only on their home markets. Nokia may have a small share as a windows representative but it´s steadily growing and they´re dominating. Better be a king in hell than a servant in heaven:>
31. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Its funny listening to all the Nokians saying...oh by the end of the year WP8will be the biggest OS!....OK I chuckle at Nokians.....besides by perfest mix would be:
32. szaboagoston (Posts: 43; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
These are good news, but the pace these updates are coming/being promised makes me pull my hair out. Windows phone update in 2014? That is more than half a year from now at best, and potentially one year and a half. With the pace technology is advancing, this is just unforgivably slow. At that time Android will be updating to the successor of Key Lime Pie. And if windows 8 was perfectly functioning and complete as it is, like iOS, they could still have an argument for being conservative, but I just can't see no excuse for such a delay for such an unpolished OS. This means also, that if you bought your windows phone 8 flagship when it came out, you'll have to wait 1-1,5 years before the OS get's updated. I usually don't use a phone for that long time. I'm glad for the news, but I'm too impatient for this. Considering the situation they are in, they should be pushing these updates like crazy, and they just keep sitting on them. They have no realistic sense of the market...
39. KINGJUAN27 (Posts: 210; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)
I totally agree! I wanna switch but its taking them so loooooong to push updates such as those basic features like the notification center and etc. I'm growing impatient, I might not switch to WP anymore! :(
37. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1517; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
for people like me who just got a Windows 8 smart phones this is great news because our devices are in a steady stream of advancement and will a pretty good smart phone in less than a year into our 2 year contact.
38. .KRATOS. (Posts: 301; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
I hope developers will wake a bit n start developing more apps for windows phone.
42. rfrapp (Posts: 77; Member since: 10 Jun 2010)
As do I. I've personally done some Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 development as well as a bit of iOS. Let me tell you, working with XAML and C# is a million times easier than working with Objective-C. Plus, XAML has data-binding, which is an incredible feature.
40. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Nice article Victor. Well written and insightful, especially your conclusion at the end.
46. Ratioexmachina (Posts: 3; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
by the time Microsot bring these updates, who knows what Android will offer...I had high hopes for WP and Win8, however, MS managed to disappoint me every damn time. :( Now I'm waiting for my contract to end and I'm switching back to Sony/Android without hesitation. Sorry, Microsoft, gave you a chance, heck, even more than one and you blew it.
47. Supaheight (Posts: 66; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
hope wp becomes more open like more of an open world os not like what android has done to get all those malwares but like to be able to personalize as you want to have launchers it would make people like it more but they have a challenge to make that work to keep it as smooth as ios then they would beat everyone cause with the best cameras on their side and the best features i don't they can be stooped but android too is the greates right now not gonna be easy
48. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
X86 intel phones running a modified version of windows 8 would be better than android.
60. 87likemike (Posts: 3; Member since: 19 Jul 2013)
i hope they make the tiles semi transparent and ability to add wallpapers.