Windows Phone 8.1 taking on low and high specs with new display resolution support
0. phoneArena 11 Feb 2014, 20:32 posted on
Microsoft has been slowly expanding the reach of Windows Phone with support for new display sizes and resolutions recently, and it looks like that trend is set to continue with the upcoming Windows Phone 8.1 update. Information has been pulled from the new WP8.1 SDK that shows the platform will be adding new resolution support in both the high and low spec categories...
This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here
1. akki20892 (Posts: 3621; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
I'm seeing low resolution for smartwatch. Great can't wait for 1820 with 1440x2560 resolution.
9. Kyokado (Posts: 115; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Am I the only one having a problem with nokia naming their phones with numbers? Its really confusing tbh... I know they having been doing it for quite a long time. But dont u think its time to change? Nokia X for eg. Is an awesome name.
33. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
That as well... You answered your own question...
50. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I think it's the real name.. Some product packaging, and cases, have been seen using the Icon name.. You can look up "Nokia Icon" on eBay, and find accessories already..
57. sgodsell (Posts: 1395; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Nokia Normandy is an Android version which is replacing their asha symbian OS smarthones
18. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8840; Member since: 14 May 2012)
520, 620, 710, 820, 1020, 1520, 2520.. Naming scheme got a little out of hand, same way Samsung did with the Galaxy line. Hopefully they create a new naming scheme under the reign of Microsoft.
25. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
The thing is that the average consumer never see's all of these designations.. We only do because we read about this crap everyday... The average consumer will only see at most 3-4 different devices in a store at a time, and at that point it will be obvious how to choose because of size, features, and mainly price...
Now, I will agree that it is a little much when you consider keeping up with all the numbers, and if Microkia had devices on every carrier, with different variations, it could get much worse for us enthusiasts, who really don't matter... Nevertheless, I would like to see more names, like Icon, but the numbers are actually fine for the consumer market if we look at it realistically...
But, of course, as always, I'm no advertising specialist, and I could be wrong...
30. Kyokado (Posts: 115; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Plus proper names give an identity to the product. So even the mainstream consumer will be able to know.
32. dratomic (Posts: 475; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)
there was a time when numbers gave identity to nokias. think 3310, 3650, 6600, 7610
65. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1161; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
as long as there is LUMIA in the naming scheme, everything is all good. my friends call it lumia. no numerical codes needed.
they will know if its low end , mid end or high end.
but mostly mid-high end coz its fast and beautiful :)
2. HASHTAG (Posts: 179; Member since: 31 Jan 2014)
This is great support, though I think we're fine w/ just 1080p displays. However, people want more res. for reasons idk.
5. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
What resolution is your device currently at?
12. HASHTAG (Posts: 179; Member since: 31 Jan 2014)
I have the 1520. I'm not saying they shouldn't release phones with greater resolution, but why?
15. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Because even with my 1520 I can still see how the resolution of the screen can be much sharper...
Remember when the iPhone first came out, and people said that the screen was Amazing? They said that it was impossible to tell the difference from 480 to 720p screens.. They said it was impossible to tell the difference from a 720p screen to a 1080p screen... Have you looked at your old 768 screen after using your 1520?.. I think you can tell a difference... It's actually a huge difference using your phone at average length from your face, and that's a worthy upgrade... Now, after all that you're asking why would anyone need higher than 1080p....
Lets just answer you question with two words... Human Advancement......
"I don't see why anyone needs a car with more than 50hp": said the man in 1928... I'm glad there were others who thought differently.
19. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8840; Member since: 14 May 2012)
There IS a difference between 720 and 1080p. Glad you caught onto that because those who have switched can agree with us. I just want to see the difference between QHD and 1080p.
26. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Yeah, I'm sure I'll be able to tell, because I can see "edges" on my 1520,, If you know what I mean..... I mean, you have to look really close, but perfection is in the details.
3. Kishin (Posts: 635; Member since: 30 May 2013)
After this update, Platforms will be on equal grounds.
6. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
It already has been in my book... This is just my 1520 hitting the lottery...
66. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1161; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
lumias with snapdragon800 would be pleased with this update
on 1020, idk
58. sgodsell (Posts: 1395; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
No it won't. There will still be limits and restrictions when compared to Android. You still can't change the UI. You still have a limit on the number of development devices you can have and have to register them (1 device, and if you pay for the year then 3 devices). Have to wait and see about a file explorer.
4. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
WP8.1-0xxxx is not a major update......
It's a COLOSSAL update!!
Like 2013 2014 is going to be a very good year for WP... I'm proud to say I'm a hard core WP fan..
14. Credo (Posts: 695; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
Indeed! COLOSSAL! i'm very excited. Do you have Instagram btw?
43. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
they said the same thing for 2013 :D
45. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2057; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
I'm having trouble remembering about MS talking about QHD resolution on their WP's last year. If anyone does, please tell me. :D
51. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Yeah, and 2013 was a great year for WP, the best, by far, yet!! You're right, my friend.
With new devices, further penetration, and the massive 8.1-0xxxx update WP will continue it's slow and steady progression.. Which is exactly the way it should...
For those who think that WP doesn't have features,,, just imagine WP8.1-0xxxx after two, or three, GDR updates... Extremely competitive option besides iOS, or Android, and the app situation has basically been fixed with the support that 8.1 brings to developers... Don't worry about 2014 Zuckerboy.....
7. rodrigoleivapy (Posts: 3; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
Everybody is loving to Windows Phone now XD¨**-**
8. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Maybe Lumia smartphone devices will be some of the first with QHD displays...
Lol!... Lumia devices are getting ahead of the curve... I love it!
10. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
That's good, a UHD windows phone , don't skip out on the 4k recording :-D
13. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Actually, 4k recording is something that hasn't yet been mentioned for new Lumia, I mean WP, devices...
Oh well, I guess there's always tomorrow.
67. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1161; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
that needs cpu power. but 1520 can easily do 4k. just an update needed by nokia.
20. EyeSee (banned) (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Feb 2014)
Following Androids footsteps
36. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
And, Android followed Windows Mobile?... Because that's what it's most like..
47. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1012; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
please tell me again how android invented widgets and customization and it wasn't actually symbian and maemo 5/ fermantle
21. Derekjeter (Posts: 313; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Can you get GOOGLE services on WP? I wan to buy the Nokia Icon for Verizon but i rely a lot on google.
27. Bernoulli (Posts: 1500; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
Why would you want those data hogging services that fall behind nokia's? Like the here maps for example, nothing spells out best gps ever than here maps with offline navigation so you don't use your data while looking stuff up on your gps
40. hurrycanger (Posts: 1256; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)
The amount of data being used in Google Maps each navigation is not even close to 5MB on a one-hour trip . I'm not sure why it's considered data hog.
HERE Maps is still behind, at least for me. The addresses aren't well updated either. I used the Lumia 521 for two months straight. I did not navigate on a daily basis, yet it brought me to a wrong spot twice. It was not too crazily bad since the spots were only... well... half a mile off on the same streets. Nokia gotta steps up on this.
Now back to data usage, it kinda sucks that HERE Drive, even with the offline maps already downloaded, cannot be used without a sim card. It better lets me navigate without a sim card since it doesn't need to use any data on the road.
I like the UI of Here Drive though.
55. Bernoulli (Posts: 1500; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
that's really strange, I have used since symbian times my nokia mobiles without sim cards when traveling abroad, assuming you downloaded the maps to the phone first, when you take out the sim and you're trying to use the phone without one it'll prompt you to use the maps offline, and I know the ram on the L521 is by no means a limitation, since I used to use it on an N8 that has 256mb of ram. I love everything, from it changing scenery to it telling me how fast I'm going and the alerts for speed limits, all completely offline. I tried using google maps in an area where my carrier (T-Mobile) has poor service when I used to have a galaxy note and well, practically useless, not even if I typed the physical address will it work, but then again he'll have verizon so perhaps reception will not be an issue.
61. hurrycanger (Posts: 1256; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)
I guess it's because I'm using the free version of HERE Drive (which is what the L521 comes with). It has to read the sim card to make sure I'm in the US...
Maybe it doesn't happen with HERE Drive Plus. It costs $20 to upgrade to Plus for international use, which I'm not gonna pay now cuz I no longer use the L521 as my daily driver. If I remember correctly, all Lumia flagships now come with Here Drive Plus.
As for Google Maps, it's gonna be useless if you start from a point with no internet connection. I hate how Google dropped offline maps for Google Maps. However, if you have internet connection when you start the app, like home wifi or work wifi connection, you can just load the destination, then it will be good to go even without the sim card. It's not practically useful anyway, but I just wanna say it can.
63. Bernoulli (Posts: 1500; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
Noooo man, I mean you get 20$ in money towards apps when you register your lumia 521 on nokia's website but I agree, don't pay that much money, there's an option on here MAPS Not drive, that says download maps, by no means do Nokia phones come preloaded with offline maps, like I said even since symbian times I have been able to download the maps, btw careful, all here services are free, I don't think the app you were looking as was Nokia legit
54. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8840; Member since: 14 May 2012)
So how's YouTube, Google Drive, GMail, etc. working on your 1020? Don't even bother mentioning MetroTube because it's plain garbage.
56. Bernoulli (Posts: 1500; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
I actually use youtube HD, it let's me download (probably not legally) high definition videos from youtube to my phone, as well as mp3 formatted videos, I have the HERE platform so I don't need by any means google's must-be-online gps services when I have truly offline maps with speed limits and a velocimetre integrated in the gps, gmail is synched to my phone as a regular email, sure not everything comes in an instant ( I have it set to come in every 6 hours, don't know how to increase it but since I hardly check it doesn't matter) but if I need something I can always refresh it manually. Metro tube? what is that? then again it's kind of sad how youtube works magnificent on the blackberry z10 when it's not even native from there; you can actually have a whole list play on the background while doing something completely different on the screen, but that's another story.
64. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2057; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Was that a general question or a troll comment?
31. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
You know the answer to that question... What are you trying to pull here?
41. hurrycanger (Posts: 1256; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)
If you rely on Google a lot, just stick with Android phones, at least for now. Maybe a year or two years later, some Google services will be supported in WP. It all depends on how WP grows, and it's looking good.
Still, I doubt you will get stuff like Google Newstand. WP is gonna have its own Newstand market. So... yeah...
52. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3561; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Yep, good advice... We have to be realistic "Here".... Pun intended.. Lol!
59. hurrycanger (Posts: 1256; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)
I don't get the pun, but anyway... lol.
I still have some hope in WP to gain marketshare and to get access to Google services (due to the large marketshare). For now, I don't think it's a wise for anyone who rely on Google services to switch to WP. In the future, maybe. It's pretty much the same to the comment I replied to your comment about Windows or something.
Anyway, I'm trying to be as realistic as possible. xD
22. SAO101789 (Posts: 123; Member since: 10 Feb 2014)
Let's hope the 1820 and 8.1 comes out on top. Please have a awesome camera like the 1020 and a awesome video and music player like my iphone 5S and I will most likely switch for it!! I like ios 7 but I love the metro os look. So clean looking its beautiful. Add more color backgrounds and ect.
23. Avenger827 (Posts: 46; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
I hope the 360x640 res results in a cheaper windows phone, I would probably get one like that as a secondary device.
39. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 775; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)
Reminds me of Symbian because that is their native resolution. Makes more sense than QVGA, actually