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Windows Phone 8.1 available to developers and non-developers that want it bad enough

0. phoneArena 14 Apr 2014, 07:47 posted on

Microsoft delivered on its promise and released a working build of Windows Phone 8.1 to developers. Great news if you are a code-churning human machine, but it turns out regular users can get a taste of MS's new mobile medicine pretty easily. If you have a WP8-running Lumia device and are willing to give up your warranty until the official update comes up...

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posted on 14 Apr 2014, 08:32 10

1. xoxoGeorges (Posts: 194; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


My body is ready

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 08:50

5. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1717; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


For what?!?

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:12 2

10. Anshulonweb (Posts: 281; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


but your phone isn't....

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:18 8

13. akki20892 (Posts: 3261; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Hidden features.... Will come out soon

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 08:40 4

2. alterecho (Posts: 1058; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


It says "participation in this program may void the warranty with your operator and your OEM"
I'm hesitant now, considering Microsoft's ability to mess things up.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 08:41 7

3. sip1995 (Posts: 662; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


Have you got a windows phone ?

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 08:43 2

4. alterecho (Posts: 1058; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


Unfortunately, yes.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 08:51 9

6. sip1995 (Posts: 662; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


Really cuz as i can from your comments here in PA, it sounds that you hate WP more than everything.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:15 5

11. alterecho (Posts: 1058; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


Unlike many, i don't support a platform just because i own it. I call it as it is, and if any platform i see is bad, i let people know.
For now, Windows Phone = bad.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:54 2

20. Gemmol (Posts: 490; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


lol i will up vote you cause your funny, good job

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 11:09 2

27. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


So then I should go into every droid article and let people know how bad droid is because of my Note 3 issues, the issues with my S3, and about 5 other droids?

No the platform is not bad, for you it is bad, for others like me, we see your comments as nothing more than fun things to poke and laugh at and respond to for kicks and nothing more.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 11:39 1

34. alterecho (Posts: 1058; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


"So then I should go into every droid article and let people know how bad droid is because of my Note 3 issues"
This is an open comments section, so why not?
You're letting others know. Also, do so, in Samsung articles, since you keep mentioning their devices in particular.

But i can say, for sure, that those issues would be nothing compared to the issues that WP has.

"No the platform is not bad"
It IS.

"for you it is bad"
For people who are unbiased and want a good OS.

"for others like me, we see your comments as nothing more than fun things to poke and laugh at and respond to for kicks and nothing more."
Of course. How else would you take the comments, that tells the truth about the platform of your choice?

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 15:19

40. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


1. I don't because there is no point, no point in hounding articles of every droid article.

You can say for sure that when google play refuses to launch and needs a master reset out of the box, that the process.android.phone, process.andoid.(something) has stopped all within 1 day of owning the phone, is nothing? That is why your comments are laughable.

The issue was 'fixed' with my 3rd note 3, I choose samsung cause i like their UI over the other droids, as well as other factors, like me enjoying samsung products in general.

But no it is not 'nothing' compared to what my WP experience has provided. I have owned a total of 7 droids, lived with 10 droids, i have yet to have a droid, whether it is by htc, sony, samsung (my favorite) that did not have some sort of OS error that just ticked me off and continue to tick me off. What is the point of having 'background or notification bar' etc, when the phone just poofs on you every day?

Is not bad, you say it is. This is tied into my comment above, your reality is not everyones reality. Your gripes about IE, comes down to lazy dev coding on PA, not the windows team, though i agree they should make up for lazy html coders. Gripes about so many other things do not affect me, as a result it is bad for you not me. As well, it is entirely subjective to the point i know my gripes about Droid are just that as well. And is why i bring it up here and there but i continue to recommend droid, bb, ios, and WP on a daily basis to multiple walks of life. At the moment so far ios and wp seem to have the happiest experience at my job. So again i understand subjective you do not.

Take the comments that tells the truth? Truth according to you? Or according to say, three people that ditched their s3's in favor of a 925 and 1520, and not looking back?

Like semper has stated, everything you have noted is subjective.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 21:42

44. alterecho (Posts: 1058; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


"1. I don't because there is no point, no point in hounding articles of every droid article."
There is. You would warn users of whats in store, if they get it. Just like i warn others whats in store if they get WP.

"You can say for sure that when google play refuses to launch and needs a master reset out of the box, that the process.android.phone, process.andoid.(something) has stopped all within 1 day of owning the phone, is nothing?"
I’d say no, but since we’re comparing it with WP, i’d say yes.

"I choose samsung cause i like their UI over the other droids"
Maybe the issues you claim are due to Samsung’s heavily loaded UI.

"But no it is not 'nothing' compared to what my WP experience has provided. I have owned a total of 7 droids, lived with 10 droids, i have yet to have a droid, whether it is by htc, sony, samsung (my favorite) that did not have some sort of OS error"
WP does not have features that Android has, to produce errors, for you to notice.

"What is the point of having 'background or notification bar' etc, when the phone just poofs on you every day?”
What is the point of ‘poofing’ when WP can’t do anything correctly, anyway.
(Note:I’m not defending Android, if it does crash, Google needs to fix it. Just pointing out why you don’t notice it on WP)

"Is not bad, you say it is.”
It IS.

"Your gripes about IE, comes down to lazy dev coding on PA, not the windows team”
Thats just an excuse for a bad browser. Bad coding or not, you don’t see Android or iOS messing it up. Those are good browsers.

"And is why i bring it up here and there but i continue to recommend droid, bb, ios, and WP on a daily basis to multiple walks of life.”
I’ve recommended every OS except WP. I simply can’t recommend it for the simple fact that some of the basic design have flaws which in particular show how incompetent WP is, as of now.

"So again i understand subjective you do not.”
I do. But if the OS is bad, at the basic level, i can’t dismiss it as being a subjective dislike. Microsoft NEEDS to improve.

"Take the comments that tells the truth? Truth according to you?”
According to one who calls it as it is.

"Or according to say, three people that ditched their s3's in favor of a 925 and 1520, and not looking back?”
I too liked it, initially, when i moved from Android (2.3) to WP, enamoured by its smoothness and its unique look (i liked the tiles, at first). After spending a lot of time, i noticed lots and lots of (mundane) flaws.

"Like semper has stated, everything you have noted is subjective.”
Not in this case.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 12:24 3

35. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 684; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)


Dude you are a joke. Your every comment is laughable. I own a Nexus 5 and a Lumia 925... guess which I use as my daily/go-to phone?

Why? Is it because Windows Phone is better than Android? FOR ME, YES. FOR YOU, NO.

And since you love quoting "For now, Windows Phone = bad"

That statement is 100% subjective. For some people, a smartphone OS is not preferable, and they stick to an old Nokia or Motorola RAZR feature phone. Some people like Windows Mobile, BlackBerry, WebOS, MeeGo even though they are now defunct and not supported as much as WP, Android, and iOS... BUT THEY ARE OK WITH IT.

You are NOT ok with Windows Phone, we get it. But you are not RIGHT, and people are not WRONG.

posted on 15 Apr 2014, 19:54

48. DCSeerIvan (Posts: 35; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


I don't know why do you buy windows phone and says negative to it. You should know that every OS has their own flaws.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 08:54 4

7. AfterShock (Posts: 2144; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Void warranty for a OS update, lmao.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:21 1

14. chocowii (Posts: 327; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)


One of those ignorant votes.
Not unless done by the service centers, updating your phone, WP or not, void your warranty. On most warranties, they only cover service on the version that xome preinstalled on your phone.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 11:10 2

28. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Let me know how that rom flash, launcher, and other droid open platform experiences go for your 'warranty'.

Also when the update is official it will not void your warranty. Because it is not supported by carriers yet, when you tell them you have a different OS version that belongs on the phone it will void your warranty exchange. This goes for ANY device not just Win OS

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 14:12

39. AfterShock (Posts: 2144; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Nexus user, insult don't apply sorry try again.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 16:02 1

41. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


It is not an insult it is the reality. I declined have to, warranties for non proper os roms etc. That is until they unroot, then if the phone is bricked and can't unroot then bam

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 12:30

36. xoxoGeorges (Posts: 194; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


Still much safer than the unlock bootloader - install recovery - flash - install gapps procedure. I've extensively flashed 2 droid phones and I know what I'm talking about.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 13:41

38. Penny (Posts: 1107; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Lol well, for those that are in a position not to really care about the warranty anymore. For example, I'm eleven months into my contract, so I don't care about one more month of warranty since the warranty only lasts for one year anyway.

It's a price some people are willing to pay for early access. Everybody will get the update eventually anyway, but this is for your early adopters who value early access more.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:03

8. Popeye1 (Posts: 6; Member since: 14 Mar 2014)


I updated my Nokia Lumia 520 but it didn't work, it just say's that I have the Lumia black only

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 11:11

29. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Cause it is not a lumia update, it is a windows update. Lumia is for Nokia solely. Go to settings-about, software will read 8.1

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:04

9. skinny95black (Posts: 113; Member since: 06 Jan 2013)


Wow this funny cortana is not available for the rest of the world and only in the us and the 930 is not available In the us but available to the rest of the world

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:51 3

19. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1717; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


Anyone living outside the US can change their location and region to USA and can use Cortana.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 11:12 1

30. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Because it is a pre-release, because as the app grows, so will cortana. Let me know when any 'pre-release' software has included all services. I have a bridge to sell you.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:17 4

12. Gemmol (Posts: 490; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


gooooooooooooooood lord, my 1520 I'm all in love like the first time I open the box

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:28 4

15. Jay-C (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Jul 2011)


Insatlling as I type! Can't wait!

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:30 2

16. Popeye1 (Posts: 6; Member since: 14 Mar 2014)


My Lumia 1520 works great with the 8.1 but my Lumia fails getting it

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:35 2

17. grapeseed87 (Posts: 123; Member since: 13 Mar 2013)


About to download it on my HTC 8x. It really is like falling in love all over again. Can't wait to greet Cortana :D. Will keep those concerned about 8x updated. if I get Cortana running I am tweeting a big THank you to Joe Belfiore. I bought my HTC 8x used off ebay for these purposes specifically hence no worries about the warranty stuff. Looking forward to 8.1!

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 09:50 3

18. bull727 (Posts: 2; Member since: 13 Feb 2014)


This update is badass!! It literally flies omg! Maybe one or two things should have been added but no biggie. People root and install different versions of android all day and void their warranty. So saying microsoft is stupid for what ever reason is stupid when Google and thousands of modders do the same. The difference here is that since MS put it out, the update works! no lag, crash, force closes here on my icon BITCHESSSSS! Enjoy the update =)

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 10:10 1

21. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


downloading now

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 10:39

22. JuanLanas (Posts: 4; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


So... I did it on my 520... It still says Amber, nothing except closing the background apps changed... Same volume control for music and the phone itself...

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 10:44

23. Gemmol (Posts: 490; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


maybe you was behind on updates

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 10:53

25. JuanLanas (Posts: 4; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


I wasn't but... I'll check later and let you know.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 11:14

31. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Your 520 is behind on updates, should be on black.

And for the last time, Lumia Amber is seperate from Windows OS updates. The black/amber update will not change. WINDOWS OS Version will.

How will an htc 8x get the lumia amber update? it wont, but it will receive the 8.1 WINDOWS update.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 11:33

33. JuanLanas (Posts: 4; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


Little rude, but great, thanks for the info. I'll let you all know,even if you don't care, if it worked for me.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 16:04

42. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


My apologies for being rude, not my intent. I forget how it can come off to others. Hope it works well currently enjoying it on 4 devices.

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 23:14 1

45. JuanLanas (Posts: 4; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


It did work now... Thanks.

posted on 15 Apr 2014, 02:54

46. Gemmol (Posts: 490; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


glad it work

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 10:44

24. grapeseed87 (Posts: 123; Member since: 13 Mar 2013)


Beautiful updated! HTC 8X is flying! Cortana has absorbed and is responding perfectly. The whole update for me only took less than 40mins tops. WIFI Sense - The Swype style keyboard - Cortana - Fluid Animations - Action Center - Great!

For those on HTC 8x def get this update if you can but do remember that this is a developers preview so certain things are still waiting to be had. Custom Lockscreen, background and such etc. Also the System Files used jumps up by 1GB. Before updated I had 3.14 GB free aprox and post update its 2.14. But that makes total sense and I had gone through my apps list and removed unnecessary apps.

Extremely happy! Going to Tweet to Joe Belfiore right now. Set up a reminder for it with Cortana already haha!

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 12:35

37. tigermcm (Posts: 670; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)


background is on there. tell me did or are you having issues with the calendar? mine refuses to open and wont update

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 10:56 1

26. aksa123 (Posts: 164; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)


Give up warranty ??? NOOOO !!! I just bought my Lumia 720 about 3 months ago !

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 11:16

32. elitewolverine (Posts: 1184; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


You will give up your warranty for 2 months or so, once the real deal is sent out, your warranty will no longer be void.

It is voiding your warranty cause the carrier you operate on, that sold you the device, expects a certain os to be on the phone.

This is normal, for people in the dev community this is nothing new, welcome to the dev community, we know you were not a dev but windows provided a free ways to do so. Point being, welcome, tell me how rom etc things go on android and their warranty. ;)

posted on 14 Apr 2014, 20:25

43. DCSeerIvan (Posts: 35; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)


At last yahooo!

posted on 15 Apr 2014, 09:48

47. chocowii (Posts: 327; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)


Though background apps settings are nowhere to be found, my L720 lasted a day with 3G on. With frequent playing of 2048 (man, that game is addictive), streaming youtube subscriptions, and heavy texting it merely lasted 18hrs! Wow.
Downsides? Xbox games took a while to load. Homescreen frequently redraws, Appstore longer loads, and much longer loading times compared to Lumia Black. This is the price of loading a Developer update.
But I dont care, 8.1 still ia awesome!

posted on 17 Apr 2014, 09:33

49. risee2 (Posts: 8; Member since: 25 May 2011)


My HTC clock app on my phone won't update and the time lags behind. I'm not a big of the total Facebook integration. I don't like not having the Facebook and Twitter notifications available to see all the time like before. The notification bar is great and the picture background. The new emoticons are cool and the sywpe keyboard.

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