Windows Phone 8 handsets being tested on all major U.S. carriers, except Sprint
1. tigermcm posted on 21 Aug 2012, 06:19 2 12
well that pretty much assures me that by Dec. Sprint won't have any wp8 out. Looks like i'll be looking into Tmo after all
2. Droid_X_Doug posted on 21 Aug 2012, 06:31 2 8
Sprint doesn't have a bunch of discretionary cash available, what with the iPhone 'investment' and the debt pay down. Sprint probably did some research with their subscribers and came to the conclusion it was more important to drop cash on building out their LTE network.
3. lubba posted on 21 Aug 2012, 06:37 5 9
I'm assuming sprint will be losing customers coming fall/winter. That's the "risky investment". IPhone is already readily available. No one has to go to sprint to get one. I don't forsee any customer loss or gains from the iphobes standpoint.
4. Droid_X_Doug posted on 21 Aug 2012, 06:51 6 4
Sprint had the highest churn rate this past quarter of the 4 major carriers. I suspect the churn was due to AT&T and VZW offering LTE service. Let someone else make the investment in proving the popularity of a new WP phone. Sure, they will lose some customers due to no WP phones. They will lose even more customers over no LTE network.
5. denied911 (banned) posted on 21 Aug 2012, 07:35 5 1
they will loose 2% of the market :D
sgs3 alone has more
15. Sprintfan posted on 21 Aug 2012, 13:44 0 1
Wow you sure know what's up buddy. Maybe research before you post garble. Best ever churn, in third place. GG. Also due to Nextel decomission.
"But the quarter also brought the best-ever churn, or rate of losing postpaid customers, on its main platform of 1.69 percent, the Overland Park-based wireless carrier (NYSE: S)"
"Verizon's churn rate its postpaid accounts was .84% compared to the .97% churn rate for AT&T, 1.69% for Sprint and the ugly 2.10% rung up by T-Mobile"
6. lostdaynight posted on 21 Aug 2012, 08:15 1 6
As a Sprint HTC Arrive owner and fan of Windows Phone, I used to be upset about the lack of support, but honestly, Windows Phone still has a lot of work to be done.
Euphoria will set in with the new features of WP8, then just like Mango, it will fade as the browser grows comparatively stagnant, carriers hold up subsequent updates (just like the Tango update), and bugs like the disappearing keyboard go unaddressed for months on end. The "new" hardware will continue to be Windows Phone stuffed into Android flagships from 6-12 months ago, except for Nokia, who probably won't land their flagship handsets anywhere but AT&T.
It's a good OS, and I love Zune and Zune Pass like nobody's business, but in the next 3 months or so, I'm ditching the arrive for an iPhone 5, Galaxy Nexus, or SGS3 on Sprint. If I have to have Metro in my life, I'm fine with upgrading my laptop to Win 8 or grabbing a Surface tablet.
7. Jyakotu posted on 21 Aug 2012, 08:46 1 3
*facepalm* Yet Sprint will support Firefox OS, which looks like a cheap iOS and Android knock off. The HTC Arrive has the highest customer sanctification rating on the website, so obviously, customers did like the Arrive despite its flaws. Also, there are a lot of customers who do want WP8 phones to arrive (pun intended) on Sprint due to unlimited LTE.
8. lostdaynight posted on 21 Aug 2012, 09:16 2 5
The customer satisfaction rating was indeed very high, and yet, they claimed it was one of their most returned devices and most certainly didn't sell that many in the grand scheme of things.
Keep in mind, Sprint is supporting Firefox because it's cheap and they can sell it as a pseudo smartphone to prepaid customers, plus it'll be a "next step" for their remaining featurephone users to get on data plans.
Windows Phone isn't any of those things. And Sprint has tried out two consecutive "new" operating systems - webOS and Windows Phone - and neither has sold. To be fair, they did the same with Android. The HTC Hero and Samsung Moment arrived on Sprint - without too much fanfare - about a year after T-Mobile launched Android. It was only after Verizon blew up the "Droid" brand and proved it could sell big that Sprint went all-in with Android.
Someone will have to do the same with Windows Phone, and no one has yet. Even the Lumia 900 just sold ok on AT&T, and they have way more customers than Sprint does.
9. tigermcm posted on 21 Aug 2012, 09:34 2 3
I im not mistaken Sprint was the biggest supporter of webOS and put the biggest advertistment behind it too. When it flopped EVERYWHERE of course that left a bad taste for Sprint. I remember Sprint pretty much was the forerunner for WM so its weird to me that they dont give more support to WP. I dont remember ANY advertistment or push for WP. I really think Sprint is just tapped out on funds hence why they would support firefox, an OS not even out but they heard cheap
14. Pdubb posted on 21 Aug 2012, 13:04 0 0
That sounds good and makes some sense but both of the Nokia WP devices are cheap. There are even more low end phones out there. So Sprint could get a decent WP7 IF they want and grow the platform just as they did Android with the Evo. *Which did ok as well* While the iPhone sold about 1-1.5 million and I am sure that it will continue to do well it will not make many switch. They need a breakthrough device like how the Evo started to do but the failed to maintain.
10. cornerofthemoon posted on 21 Aug 2012, 11:22 3 2
I'm a WP user but I can't blame Sprint for waiting to see which way the wind blows. Windows Phone hasn't exactly taken the world by storm.
11. speckledapple posted on 21 Aug 2012, 11:35 2 2
Once again Sprint will be late to the party.
13. Penny posted on 21 Aug 2012, 11:39 2 2
Good strategy Sprint. Wait till the platform has already taken off so that you miss the opportunity to capitalize on any potential growth, and buy into it right when it's at its priciest peak. Seems about right.
Just like you did with the iPhone. And now you don't have money for any other strategy.
16. Sprintfan posted on 21 Aug 2012, 14:01 1 1
I'll be the first to say I am excited about the WINDOWS 8 device. But ask yourselves, how many people you think besides nerds really are anticipating the "updated" OS. This is like someone waiting for an Android upgrade from ICS to JELLYBEAN. You think there are a a ton of Sprint customers anxiously awaiting this? NOPE. In a customer care position in 4 months have I gotten one call about "When is the new windows phone 8 coming." Nope. With a less than 3% market share divided by the total number of Sprint customers you guys think that the amount of people going to Churn is going to matter or be siginficant? It's still an uproven OS. If anything the tablet will be the difference maker first. Than once people realize the tablet is good they will switch to the phone.
17. scorpeyun posted on 21 Aug 2012, 18:33 1 0
I was looking forward to Windows Phone 8 and was hoping that Sprint would at least invest in one phone running the OS. I'm disappointed and will consider going to another carrier if I find a WP8 device that really appeals to me on Big Red or AT&T. If they wouldn't have but themselves into such deep debt to get the iphone maybe they would have the money to invest in some diversity in there phone lineup for those customers who don't care for apple products.
18. 7thspaceman posted on 21 Aug 2012, 19:25 0 0
I think Sprint will have a Windows 8 Phone in 2013. They are in no Hurry to have one due to Windows 7 series smart phones not selling well. the Windows 8 smart phone is a horse of a different color. it will use a version of Windows 8 soft ware that will be used on Desktop/Laptop computers, Windows Tablet computers and Windows servers. this OS is robust and powerful and folks will be on Windows smart phones for more than 2 years, Microsoft will keep adding features to the Windows 8 smart phones Which are right now better than the Current windows 7 series smart phones. many developers will now devote time to the Windows 8 smart phones because they have the Right stuff to work with now.
20. corps1089 posted on 23 Aug 2012, 00:02 0 0
I have been a loyal supporter for logical reasons for a long time, and now I'm rewarded with this BS!
21. pikapowerize (banned) posted on 23 Aug 2012, 01:29 0 0
they will still look of what will WP8 bring to the market... will they outsell android or iPhone.. after all this is business...