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Windows Phone 7.8 vs 8 feature set comparison leaked

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Windows Phone 7.8 vs 8 feature set comparison leaked
A new leak out of a reputable Windows Phone site in Russia gives us a look at the differences in features between Windows Phone 7.8 and Windows Phone 8, and even adds in a new feature for WP8 which we hadn't heard about before. Many of the features are what we expected to see based on Microsoft's announcement, without any real surprises, but it's nice to have everything laid out plainly. WP7Forum tends to be pretty reliable, so we expect this info is something you can trust. 

Windows Phone 7.8 vs 8 feature set comparison leaked
As expected, while Windows Phone 7.8 will get the new start screen with the new Tile sizes, most of the other major features aren't making the cut. Skype, RCS-e, and DataSmart are all available in WP7.8, but only as separate apps, and not integrated as with WP8. DataSmart is the app which allows users to monitor data usage, and RCS-e allows carriers to hook in data services. Not surprisingly, IE10 will be WP8 only, and WP7.8 users will have to make due with IE9 (our condolences). 

Additionally, Voice Command, Bing Audio, and cloud services all seem to be staying the same from WP7.5 to WP7.8, but WP8 users will be getting more powerful versions of each. WP8 will have more voice command options, as expected, and will sync all data to the cloud. The new piece of info is that Bing Audio in WP8 is getting "improved TV recognition", which we hadn't heard about before, but seems to be a way to tag TV shows from the audio, and more than likely will shoot you into the Zune Marketplace to buy said TV show. 

source: WP7Forum.ru via WMPU

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posted on 09 Jul 2012, 20:15 4

1. xtroid2k (Posts: 315; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)


Microsoft is doing this all the right way. As far as im concerned apple and google prepare for war and as of right now apple needs to stop coming with the same old tune and google needs to stop being lazy and coming out with half baked builds.

posted on 09 Jul 2012, 20:55 12

3. Mitchel (Posts: 228; Member since: 25 May 2012)


Jelly Bean is still the leader of the pack.

posted on 09 Jul 2012, 21:17 7

4. MeoCao (unregistered)


In what way WP8 is better than JB?
- Maps?
- Voice serch?
- Notification?
- Smoothness?
- Multitasking?
- Widgets?
- Cost to users?
...
The most talked about feature of WP8 is live tiles, but live tiles are essentially fixed and unicolor widgets. That prevents WP8 from having any wall paper and very dull looking after people get used to that "novelty".

posted on 09 Jul 2012, 21:59 4

5. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Hey brotha, don't worry about those stuff. Look up wp satisfaction rating. Don't need to compare.

posted on 09 Jul 2012, 22:12 5

6. jove39 (Posts: 1207; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Maps - Nokia Maps with voice guided navigation
Voice search - don't care
Notification - Tiles have notification and they need to learn some from Android here
Smoothness - thats only place where wp top
Multitasking - limited
widgets - got resizable bigger tiles
cost to users? what is this question? licensing fee you meant? Its ~$20...but not sure!

posted on 09 Jul 2012, 22:12 5

7. codymws (Posts: 236; Member since: 17 Jun 2010)


Maps- Nokia Maps with Drive
Voice Search- improved in WP8
Notifications- Live tiles, toast
Smoothness- No WAY Android is smoother than WP! Even JB!
Multitasking- since Mango, very smooth & intuitive
Widgets- consistent live tiles
Cost- cheap, with low end Tango devices

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 00:16 1

11. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


in what way you say? maps, smoothness.. JB will have the advantage when it comes to multitasking and voice search. But the other criteria you have mention, i can't say JB's the best on those criteria. Widgets? WP have live tiles. Cost to users? Tango. Notification? uh, hello? in live tiles?

We can't always say that JB is better. We can never generalize. There are things that other OSes are better. Like what you've just mention "widgets, notifications and costs", you can't say this because it's incomparable to other OSes, but the thing is, they have different versions of these things that works just like those. "widgets and live tiles".

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 06:49

23. tegradragon (Posts: 68; Member since: 23 May 2012)


The undisputed champion in smoothness HAS to be windows phone. Period.

posted on 09 Jul 2012, 20:52 4

2. vvelez5 (Posts: 623; Member since: 29 Jan 2011)


It's good that the current handsets will be getting most of the same features, even though they won't be integrated but at least Microsoft is attempting to give Windows Phone 7.5 users some love.

posted on 09 Jul 2012, 22:23 4

8. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


No iPhobe user complained not getting useless and overhyped siri. So wp7.5 users shouldn't worry too much. Besides, first generation users contracts up this year. Though do feel bad for early lumia adopters. I do believe they got jipped. I think there should be allowed to trade in or have a deep discount for them if they want to upgrade to wp8. They were rushed devices.

posted on 09 Jul 2012, 23:16 3

9. bayusuputra (Posts: 941; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


no iphone user complained? the last time i checked there were questions about why their iPhone 4 did not have Siri..

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 05:08

21. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Sorry I didn't check. Just didn't hear it all over the tech news and blogs, and nor did I hear it affect their stock price dramatically.

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 06:52

24. tegradragon (Posts: 68; Member since: 23 May 2012)


It ends there. Did you read the statistics? Hardly 1 in 4-5 people use siri regularly.

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 00:09 2

10. xtroid2k (Posts: 315; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)


Well I see that people were more against my first comment so ill put it like this.

Maps - currently very usable with no lag issues. Soon to combine with nokias very powerful maps products.
Voice Search - I'll admit it sucks but that doesn't mean it isn't being worked on.
Notifications - I love the live tiles. Different strokes for different folks
Smoothness - ugh yeah my phone doesn't lock up or need a task killer.
Multitasking - Needs work but I don't have any issues period.
Widgets - so my Microsoft doesn't want to copy apple! Good for them.
Cost- oh yeah this one was quite a purchase at $50. Lost sleep for days.

Lets continue -

Apps - although fewer the quality is much better.
Standardization - ms did a good job making strict standards. At least they had some SENCE and wasn't BLURED by what they think looks cool (google should really go with sense)

Im just very wary of were google is going. They just keep pumping money into this product which really has no vision. Remember google is really making money off the advertising avenues in OS and not OS it self. There is no real drive to improve. Apple has not really changed since 2007. They are stuck. Ms breaths fresh air into the mix. Don't get mad get glad.

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 01:20 1

12. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


well said

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 01:22 4

13. MeoCao (unregistered)


First we must not make our arguments based only on our personal liking b-c then all arguments are off. Now we can look at a little bit of details:

- Maps: Google maps are the best, Nokia can cover big citities, but overall they are light years behind. Now Google map has indoor viewing feature, amazing stuff.
-Notification: Live tiles are fun at first, but it will be tiresome when you have to search for information you want from dozens of tiles, and that may not be enough. Live tiles also make all phones look the same, and that's boring.
- JB has caught up with iOS and WP in smoothness.
- Multitasking in JB is intuitive, you can manage all the tasks and kill off those you don't need with a swipe. iOS and WP are far behind Android in multitasking.
- Widgets: Apple widgets are very awkward, WP8 has live tiles but none can be easily resized and customized as Android.
-Cost: MS demands license fee and the result is all the handsets running WP are thick and of inferior quality than similar priced Androids: the manufacturers save the money by using bad components to keep the price competitive.

I agree with you that MS has done a good job in maintaining the quality of the apps. I'm impressed with the interface of the WP apps that I saw recently and I do think Google should do a better job here.

The problem with Android apps is scaling: there are so many screen sizes and that's a tough nut for Google to crack.

I disagree that Google does not try hard to improve Android, in fact it was the manufacturers who fail to keep up with the upgrades. I think Google has done a wonderful job with Android. Google is most innovative and open company in the tech big league while Apple and MS are building closed ecosystems and rely on anticompetitive practices to succeed.

I of course welcome WP8, people have more choices and that's good, but I'm disapointed that there is so little innovation in WP8 and really hope that MS can make some big improvements when it finally comes out.

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 01:38 1

15. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)


amen brother

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 03:51 1

19. matrix_neo (Posts: 307; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


Very well said. Thousand plus for you. Fanboys and WP fans observe your surrounding first before you say something about it. Android has already undergone a lot of changes, google has done a lot to provide a true advance mobile os in the world. Higher market shares of it tells a lot. If some of android users embrace WP, well that's good,WP is a promising os. Even me I'm interested...

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 08:21

25. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


The thing is, android had fully evolved while WP is still evolving. Changing things that users ask such as hardware specification restrictions.

again, not in all aspects that JB rules. JB only runs smooth and supports high end models. Unlike WP, JB needs higher specifications to run smooth. Just look at lumia 610. It runs smoother compared to android devices that have similar specs.

the point here is that, WP and JB will always have flaws that's why they keep on evolving.

And, I agree with you that Google works hard to improve the OS. No other OS can compare to its openness but this is also the flaw why malwares lurks the play store. It sure is as open as anyone can ask for, but we can also say that it will always have a down side.

WP is a good OS and we can all agree with that, but it still have more catching up to do. But i can say that it has some aspects that's better than JB.

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 01:52 1

16. thunderising (Posts: 225; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)


"Widgets - so my Microsoft doesn't want to copy apple! Good for them."

So now it's your Microsoft...

sigh

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 02:32

17. T3chS4vvy (Posts: 7; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


Hmm I think my next phone is going to be a nokia with windows phone on it

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 03:15 1

18. thunderising (Posts: 225; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)


A complete analysis of the leaked chart

http://tinyurl.com/wp78wp8features

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 04:18

20. thebest (Posts: 226; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


even the wp8 devices will not get wp9 update......they are unable to understand the difference between a phone and a pc, so they are basically merging both of them.........i think apple's ceo tim cook was right, merging a fridge and a toaster is foolish, microsoft should try to integrate the mobile os and the pc os with each other instead of just merging them......

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 05:19

22. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


We'll find out if "the son of God" Tim Cook is right or not. At this point, we haven't seen the whole merging/integration at work because windows 8 and WP8 not in retail yet. Also don't know what wp9 is or will be. Can't assume yet. Overall, most people will be complainless when the products hit retail stores.

posted on 28 Jul 2012, 08:11

26. ncv144 (Posts: 126; Member since: 04 May 2012)


Excuse me for being a noob but what does OTA mean?

posted on 30 Sep 2012, 19:35

27. irontissue (Posts: 1; Member since: 30 Sep 2012)


You know, you guys are all talking very shallow-ly...

From a developer's point of view, windows phone 8 will triumph android purely because of programming limitations on the java based system of android. Windows phone 8 is not just "smoothness" and "livetiles" like you android-lovers talk about (oh and MeoCao you claim "we must not talk with bias" but you proved yourself a hypocrite lol). It has MUCH faster integration of every app you can think of (in the new windows phone 8) just because it is done with native code.

All in all, I have to say that windows phone is still a child compared to android and iphone, but it is growing as a rate that is incredibly fast. The implications of changing their whole base structure of the OS are so big - it means that microsoft is planning something big coming up later, which will be acheived with this awesome language change.

Although wp7's apps are few in number, they have quality. Now that wp8 is coming out, too, the app count will go up by millions quickly, once again because of program structure changes.

all others > wp8 (now)
wp8 > all others (in a couple years)

now these are facts, not dumb arguments like the above. :)

posted on 30 Sep 2012, 22:26

28. vvelez5 (Posts: 623; Member since: 29 Jan 2011)


Why are you commenting on a 2 month old article?

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