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Windows 8.1 begins its rollout tomorrow, the Start Button returns, the Start Menu does not

0. phoneArena 17 Oct 2013, 00:53 posted on

Windows 8 has had a rough go of it over the past year. Windows 7 was a tough act to follow, especially...

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posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:12 9

1. orca99 (Posts: 87; Member since: 05 Oct 2013)


I've been using 8.1 since the MSDN release (also updated to the GA rollup) but the user experience hasn't changed much. The most convient features are, however, a direct booting to the desktop and the ability to customize the start screen better. The modern (Metro) apps, however, are still crap.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 02:31

14. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


I agree with you on that

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:13 3

2. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


Too little too late I'm afraid. Google (even Apple) has begun to eat into your market share.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:41 17

6. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3519; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Oh really❔PC's count for over 90% of desktop/laptop sales, and all new PC's are loaded with W8x.. What's going to be the outcome of that in a few years? And once people get used to W8, which it's inevitable that they will, they are going to think twice about buying a toy tablet when they find out they can take their entire computing experience with them... Tablets are still young, and the role of a tablet has yet to be defined... So quit fooling yourself, and being naive to the fact that that 90%+ market share isn't going anywhere.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 02:12 2

11. ngikngok (Posts: 11; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


you just making an idiot of yourself. posting immaturely.
Stop fooling around your freakin troll.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 02:41 4

16. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3519; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


How am I wrong❔

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 03:40 1

19. shreyas.s666 (Posts: 80; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)


Arm architecture isn't that power to replace desktop PCs.and android needs much specs. So at least for next 2 yrs nothing can be changed. Or just because Windows8 suck ppl wont stop using windows.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 02:42 4

17. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


Woah, calm down. Please note the use of the word "begun"

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 09:57 2

29. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1294; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Sorry, looking to leave windows because of Windows 8. It used to be that you could still get copies of the previous OS, but not here. So basically MS gave us an ultimatum, use Windows 8 or leave, and that's what I'm going to do.

On a side note, why give us a start button but not the start menu. That's like giving someone keys to a car and they're the wrong keys. But don't worry, you can pay extra to some outside source to get a fix that MS should have done in the first place. Nope, time to sell my Win8 unit and look at their competition.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 11:40

30. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


Unless W9 is more like W7, I'm leaving as well. A start button without the start menu is as insulting as the W7 desktop mode without any way of really using it properly. It's almost like MS is playing with us in those regards.

Some of the things shown in the video are really nice features but the entire UI isn't the way I want to use my computer. And yes, I'm in the group put off by it being touch screen based. I can accept that on a tablet but not on a PC. I just purchased a new computer a couple of months ago so I still have a handful of years before needing a new one. Hopefully by then MS has finally realized there's more of us old time users who prefer the old UI compared to the new users. Otherwise, I'll be checking out Ubuntu.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 13:35

32. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 836; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)


If you research you will find that the main entry of virus was through start. You don't need a start menu to control software.
Holding the windows key and the C key takes you to the menu that used to be like start. Holding the windows kea alone take you to the programs and app screen

Windows 8 is way better than windows 7 and if you have a touch screen it gets even easier to use. Windows will regain, and keep its market lead because right now it has way more to offer than any other platform at the moment.

When it is unified with Windows Phone next year it will start to out shine the competition for sure!

You can still buy Windows 7 online , but to me that would be foolish, but to each his own!

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:15 4

3. Navaid (Posts: 46; Member since: 05 Sep 2013)


Hmm, getting better. MS didn't make the right decision going with the Metro UI, And they can't even get rid of it any time sooner than 7 to 8 years. It's the golden chance for Google to hit with Android for PC, Then nothing can prevent my all time favourite software giant from going down. Feeling really bad ! :'(

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:43 13

7. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3519; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Keep dreaming... Pipe dreams..

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 02:13

12. ngikngok (Posts: 11; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


keep dreaming yourself grab-assing troll!

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 02:41 6

15. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3519; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Prove me wrong❕ Calling me a troll doesn't make you right!... And this a article about a MS product, so if there was a troll here wouldn't it be you❔

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 13:39

33. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 836; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)


Why are you so negative...if Microsoft continues they will dominate when the phone and desk top are united!

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 11:42

31. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


The amount of focus MS is placing on the Scroogled ads is indication enough they know Google is a threat.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:21

4. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2457; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


Looking better than 8.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:23 2

5. shadow25 (Posts: 5; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)


oh,I think microsoft is doing well in design... not in features...
c`mon Microsoft we want something BIG!!!!!!!

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:45 6

8. alterecho (Posts: 1072; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


They'll give you a BIG tile :)

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:50 6

9. twens (Posts: 549; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


I will pick windows any day any time.i simple love w8,those who find it difficult are just people who don't like change. W8 or w8.1 is the future. ...get used to it. The smoothest OS on the planet. Rocking it on my Dell Xps touch screen pc.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 01:52 2

10. dratomic (Posts: 458; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)


since when programs are called apps? no start menu? what are they smoking? !

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 02:30 4

13. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


I have been using Linux constantly since 2011. Now i don't feel comfortable going back to Windows. I use Windows only for Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, Xilisoft Video Converter and some apps that are Windows exclusives. However with time I notice Linux is getting some love from developers, it still has a long way to go but is improving. SteamOS is going to encourage that transition more and more. So many developers praise Valve for this move and now let's hope it is successful. Windows 8 to be honest does not have the same Windows Experience like you had with Windows XP or 7 although it is an improvement.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 03:23

18. amozhi (Posts: 96; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


Microsoft is always doing the wrong things. They are supplying tablet OS for PC in 2013 and in 2001 they supplied desktop software for tablets.

Microsoft wake up and learn from your mistakes. WITHOUT START BUTTON windows is a fail.

If google launches Chrome / Android like desktop OS it would be a huge hit and would replace windows forever

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 04:53 1

22. sks1969 (Posts: 76; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)


No need for Android on desktop, wake up guys... you already have linux mint, Ubuntu and the hundreds of distro's out there, with all the apps and utilities you will ever need and WITHOUT AD's and google counting how many times you go pee...
All you guys' posting out here about Android coming on desktop should get a life not kiss Google's arse for everything.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 05:05 1

23. amozhi (Posts: 96; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


Indeed...I am using linux mint 14 as my daily use. But I can't buy a new PC (laptop) with good spec with linux on it. I am also afraid to buy a non branded PC due to driver issue.

At present only option is to use dual boot windows pc. I am still using the 7 year old pc with good performance. If any manufacturer releases PC with linux on, would be a great hit.

It may not be a huge hit immediately, but it will help people to migrate to linux.

One disadvantage with linux is, most of the tools and utilities needs to be installed /accessed using comand prompt. This may be the issue for new comers or an average person.

If linux removes this drawback, then it would be great choice of OS for all and that's what android did. So make Android as desktop PC, people will automatically migrate to linux.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 07:05

25. rob5150 (Posts: 109; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)


Ubuntu computers from Dell.http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/dell/dellxps
Or
https://www.system76.com

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 03:45 1

20. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1050; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


a Great deal of people feel that Microsoft should have separated the Desktop and the Modern UI AKA Metro start screen from Windows 8.1 and just have the Modern UI AKA Metro start screen on Tablets, All in one touch screen desktops, and Laptop/notebooks that have a touch screen. Well that did not happen but there is hope that it will happen in Windows 9 that I think may come out in 2015. Ii I became the new CEO of Microsoft the first thing I would do is call
the Windows operating system development team in and tell them to create a Desktop mouse and keyboard version for Windows 9 as well as an advanced version of what is known as Windows 8.1 for touch screen devices like Tablets. All in one desktops that have touch screen. And any Laptop/notebooks that have a touch screen. this would give Microsoft OEM's and Customers a better selection of devices to choose from. Old-timers would buy the windows 9
desktop Mouse and keyboard version and brave souls like me would stick with the hybrid
Windows 9 operating system that would resemble Windows 8.1 to use some of the good Apps that are in the Windows store and have the best of both worlds. If Ballmer had made sure there was a screw of Windows 8 that was only for the desktop/Laptop mouse and keyboard computers that had no Modern UI AKA Metro start screen touch interface at all Windows 8
would have been a success because it would had something for everybody.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 04:02 1

21. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Start button cost Ballmer his job?

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 05:30

24. pongkie (Posts: 496; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


I can't find the update I dunno how....l gaahHHHH

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 07:08

26. rob5150 (Posts: 109; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)


I've been running Ubuntu for years. Using great free office programs. And using wine installed photoshop.
Also have a virtual machine install of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 07:41 1

27. weevil81 (Posts: 11; Member since: 16 Jun 2013)


I haven't really had any problems to speak of with Win8...I use the shortcuts built around the windows key a lot and overall the additional UI doesn't really affect my productivity...I navigate the OS with ease just as the previous OSes...honeslty I haven't found what all the fuss about Win8 is about!

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 09:49

28. Ikechukwu (Posts: 134; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)


Update is on the windows store! And I can't imagine using a traditional start menu again.

posted on 17 Oct 2013, 20:30

34. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1050; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


I read a lot of complaints about Windows 8.1 that wont hold water. because by right clicking the taskbar and clicking it's properties menu item and then clicking the Navigation tad and it's menu items 1=you can set win 8.1 up so you boot directly to the desktop. 2= You can set up win 8.1 so you do not even see the Modern UI AKA Metro start screen but instead you'ill see the all apps screen and can have it arranged so you see all your desktop programs first on the far left of the monitor screen. folks 3=you can disable the touchscreen corner gestures and just use your old trusty mouse and keyboard. Go right click the new start button and you will get a Menu list you can use to do different activities on your computer including Shut down a windows 8.1 computer by right clicking the new start button and clicking on the shutdown menu item like you used to do in the old days. Folks if you do all the things I mentioned you have essentially killed the touch screen Modern UI/AKA interface and have a Windows 8 mouse and keyboard computer and are working only on the Desktop unless you open a metro app in that case you will be using a full page windows store app. ALL YOU DESKTOP LOVER STOP COMPLAINING just disable the stuff you do not want to do. I set my Windows 8.1 desktop to boot directly to the desktop it was already set it up to have the Desktop screen wallpaper and the Modern UI start screen to be the same but if it was not you can do that too in windows 8.1 taskbar properties and go to the navigation tab to do that or do it Folks learn how to change the settings of Windows 8.1 before you knock it and you will see it 's not a bad OS once you set it up to your personnel tastes.

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