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Windows 8 usability report finds its seven deadly sins: Microsoft swapped features for color

0. phoneArena 19 Nov 2012, 05:58 posted on

Windows 8 is a completely reimagined Windows. It aims to bring the new Modern-style user interface with its Live Tiles and simplistic ideas…

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:04 16

1. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6621; Member since: 14 May 2012)


I personally don't like W8 for the reasons stated in the article. I know about computers, and see the jump from W7 a very small one.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:08 9

3. someones4 (Posts: 613; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


Well, 9gag already predicted this to be somewhat of a flop. perhaps w9 will be better.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 10:05 3

35. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


It'll get fixed, I have no doubt about that...
I just wished they'd learn to listen to power-users and developers (including their own) more than follow trends...

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:01 4

22. alterecho (Posts: 956; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


more like step dow

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:11 8

26. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5282; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Sounds like a repeat of Vista is in the making.... Nothing like hubris. MS seems to reliably follow a hit (Win7) with a dud. Remember Win XP > Vista? It seems to be repeating with Win 7 > 8.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:33 8

29. Cynipap999 (banned) (Posts: 138; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)


It's really sad and pathetic, Windows 8 is Microsoft's Vista 2. All you have to tell me is no multiple windows on Windows 8 and I'm OUT (SEE YA')!!! There are times when I can have ten windows or more open at once between 4-5 programs; not having multiple windows is NOT an option. Unfortunately, I could have predicted this with Microsoft - sad, really.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 15:03 2

47. divertito (Posts: 3; Member since: 09 Nov 2012)


The article fails to distinuish between RT and Pro. In Pro, from the desktop "app" you have the classic windows experience with some minor tweaks; you even get multiple windows as the screengrab clearly demonstrates. Casual users will be using the new interface, while biz users and power users will likely be in the desktop UI for the majority of their usage. Also, comparing this to Vista is just wrong unless there are stability issues. What made Windows ME and/or Vista suck so bad was the BSOD, not the UI.

Sad how easily change scares folks.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 19:56

52. jroc74 (Posts: 3977; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Mist ppl dont remember when XP first launched it had issues. It didnt really get better until SP2.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 22:29

55. OccupyAJob (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


It's a long running theme with Windows. Like Star Trek odd numbered movies, every even numbered Windows release sucks.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 11:45 4

39. -box- (Posts: 3565; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


My primary computer I still have 7 Ultimate 64-bit, and will stay that way until I feel comfortable that all the programs I use for work will be useable flawlessly and with no lost time between what I am used to. However I already have 8 installed on two of my other computers and while it took a bit getting used to, it is faster for everyday tasks, and also better on the smaller screened devices. I can tell that it was definitely designed for touchscreen devices. Yes, not everyone has one but by the time W8 has wider deployment more will, even as such that some will buy a touchscreen just because they know 8 is designed with a touch interface in mind. Yes, power-users and tech types may not be happiest about the change, but they're not the biggest audience Microsoft has, much like how Google doesn't cater Android directly to the modding community, but anyone who will buy it, hence ICS and JB introducing a more streamlined and less-complicated interface. Vista wasn't bad, either, btw, it is just that there were a number of factors against it, namely whiney tech folks who wanted a faster, less-crash-prone OS (which it was) and users not knowing how to set up UAC (which was stupidly easy, and done to keep less-savvy users from messing up their systems - PEBKAC), and, like 7, people buying the cheapest version of the OS and expecting it to work like the most expensive version. I only ever had/have 64-bit Ultimate versions of Vista and 7, and never had a problem. The hit/miss thing isn't really true, either: 95, 98, and 98 SE were all excellent for their time. ME blew chunks. 2000, XP, and Server 2003 were all.good for their time, though XP had significant severe issues for those who didn't/don't protect themselves (the same issue mac is has now and has had for a while). Vista attempted to remedy those security issues by taking it out if the hands if the user with UAC. A bit too much, too soon, but it worked. People are already purchasing more touchscreen computers, and for them 8 will be great. Yes, it could use the ability to have multiple windows open beyond the "snapped" ones, but that creates lag and usability issues for less powerful systems (sort of like the Windows 7 pagefile debate), and there is always desktop mode for some of that functionality. Once more people adopt it and stop complaining it'll be fine.

TL;DRers: Stop complaining and give it a try, especially on a touchscreen. It isn't bad, and good for most general users, which is most of Microsoft's user base.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:07 12

2. someones4 (Posts: 613; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


Microsoft really shot themselves in the foot here. This has potential and all these annoyances killed the experience for me. Even if they attempt to fix this, it may be even more confusing for users who got used to it.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:14 8

4. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2964; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


All aside... Number 2 is just shocking to know.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:18 5

5. Edmund (Posts: 645; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


I'm glad you guys think a sample size of 12 experienced users is considered a valid experiment with conclusive findings /s

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:21 6

6. uchihakurtz (Posts: 171; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


Windows 8 feels awkward on non-touch devices...

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 07:12 1

16. megabok (banned) (Posts: 58; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)


True that.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:25 1

7. jove39 (Posts: 1206; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Oh my...what is "Lack of multiple windows"...Win8 doesn't have feature to open windows side by side or stacked? Hope it works in Desktop mode!!!

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:31 5

9. gwhyte01 (Posts: 44; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)


Yes it can. If you can't do it then you don't meet the vga requirements.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:28 1

8. Peter98 (Posts: 119; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


I installed it. I get to it. But yea. From desktop and modern UI, it's weird and dunno which should I use. Confusing there. I wanna use Modern UI for the majority time but sometimes like Google Chrome doesn't support and need to jump over to Desktop again.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:35 5

10. TrainFromUkraine (Posts: 63; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)


Are people really THAT stupid? Seriously?

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:39 2

11. plgladio (Posts: 311; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Nothing is big than Ballmer mouth..

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 06:52 9

12. Ahsan (Posts: 17; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)


I am using windows 8. Its is great, fast and smooth. It takes only 7 seconds to start my PC on. Live tiles are great also just one click and you will get cricket, football live update, news etc. Only disadvantage is lack of application on windows store but this might be for a while. Hopefully popular application will be available for Windows 8 metro tiles soon.
In my opinion windows 8 need some update and I am sure windows 8 service pack 1 will rocking.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:58 1

31. joey_sfb (Posts: 1973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


my windows 7 also take 7 seconds so no surprise there plus i work in the tech environment ask my colleague to rate windows 8, they give 3 out of 10, reason is an upgrade must feel like an upgrade but windows 8 sadly feel like windows 7 starter edition which also limit multitasking.

Hardly to be productivity in windows 8 compare to windows 7, user interface limiting. M$ trying to make windows into iOS.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 07:03 10

13. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)


I´ve been using Windows 8 for 2 weeks already and I already got used to it. Here´s my rig:

-Asus M5A99x Evo MotherBoard
-Amd Phenom 2 X4 975 BlackEdition Deneb 3.6 GHz processor
-8 GB Corsair DDR3 Ram 1600 MHz
-AMD Radeon HD 6850 1GB GPU
-Windows 8 64 bit

I have to admit that at first it was a little bit complicated to find things, but I became an expert in 15 minutes. I love how you can have everything pinned to the start screen so no matter where you are you can just press the Win key to bring up the start screen and launch the app you´re looking for.. Also, you have an universal search option in which you can search for anything!!! in the computer, you just have to pan your mouse over to the right and click on the magnifying glass icon or just start typing in what your looking for (control panel, for example) and that will automatically start the search.

People, this is a new OS with new features and gestures, so therefore you will have to get used to it just like when you used Windows for the first time, and it´s really fun to do it. Don´t believe the negativity.

The only real problem with Windows 8 is compability issues with certain programs but that can be solved if the propietary of the software updates the program. I won´t go back to Win7.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 07:10 4

15. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)


Oh I forgot to say that I can open as many Windows as I want on the same screen. I can send you a screen shot.

Note: CTRL+TAP and Win+TAP are still there available!!!!!!

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 07:05 8

14. thelegend6657 (unregistered)


But wait , OSX have all the confusing gestures but no one complained ?

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:04 4

24. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)


Oh, lot's of people complain. Every time someone uses my MacBook and slams their gorilla hands into my track pad and get's mad at me when they open expose view or the app launcher. The differences are that Microsoft give you a choice. Apple just does it and shows you in a neat little intro video. Can we talk about "natural scrolling" second? What's natural about inverting something I'd been using since the 90s?

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 07:13 4

17. tigermcm (Posts: 607; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)


honestly am I the only person that didnt have difficulty using Win8? I just got right in it, the only thing i had trouble with was finding the list of installed programs

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 09:05 3

33. Tones (Posts: 52; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


I dont have difficulty using it. Im just struggling to see the benefit of changing it. Change for the sake of change is no good. And there is no way we will be rolling this out across our network in work. Theres no way we can retrain 1000s of staff to use it. Some of our users are still unsure about using xp and the start button. They wont ever get used to this interface.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 11:58

40. -box- (Posts: 3565; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


For that environment it may not be as serviceable, and 7 may still be the best choice. However there are a number of BIG businesses that have stated they'll be replacing existing systems with touchscreens and Win8, especially for fieldwork. For those that are uncertain about XP, 8 will be an improvement (on a touchscreen) as it's just pressing buttons.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 07:15 5

18. bossmt_2 (Posts: 421; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)


I've been a Win8 Beta tester since the program was brought public.

I think there are lots of oddities to win 8 (the desktop screen and then the metro UI) but honestly, I'll gladly trade it for the insane boot times I get with win 8. I have a Dell XPS 15 l502x, and you're talking about serious time saved in full boot and boot from sleep mode. Only thing faster in my experience is Chrome OS.

To touch the points

1. If I click firefox it takes me to Desktop, pretty straight forward.

2. Lost me there, maybe it's poor wording but you can work out of split screens. And on the desktop you can open as many windows as you like.

3.Flat sytle, guess that's preference, they don't bother me at all

4-6 seem to be heavy tablet complaints, not so much on the user side, but then again, I don't really care about live tiles or apps, I care about Boottimes and SmartGlass

7. Valid point I guess, again seems tablet driven.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 07:36 3

19. Victor.H (Posts: 381; Member since: 27 May 2011)


Thanks for mentioning those counter-points, and let me agree with you on one thing - Microsoft did an excellent job improving Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 under the hood. Boot times, work on the kernel, security, great job, hands down. However this study is all about the interface. In the first case you mention Firefox, but what about Internet Explorer? And on the second point, we're talking about the modern UI where you can't see multiple windows at the same time. I still think those are not all that hard to fix with a slight redesign, so hopefully we get it sooner.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:09 3

25. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)


I hate full screen apps on PCs and Macs. You lose too much important information in these views. I for one blame iOS and all the idiots that support that atrocious software. And yes, I can support that argument. It's not a troll or a rage, I've been saying it for years.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 12:02

41. -box- (Posts: 3565; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


@Victor have you tried using the "Snap" feature, carried over from W7? I've had 2 programs running side-by-side no problem on my 2 W8 computers, haven't yet experimented to see if they'll do more. Switching to a background program takes a moment, so there isn't much lost functionality except for ease of drag-and-drop. "Charm" it up!

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 07:53 5

20. Osman (Posts: 43; Member since: 07 May 2012)


PA, stop pointing fingers at Microsoft! Just like u guys don't like Windows We don't like Apple... We all have things we don't like but no one is interested in listening to ur story, everyone is busy with their own!

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:00 3

21. davkaramagi (Posts: 4; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)


Victor H, I might not be an "ëxperienced user" by your yardstick but I think i need to correct a few claims in your article because they are quite simply misleading.

Note: I recently updated my Samsung 7 Series Slate and it really works well with Win 8 Pro. Took me 1 day to get used to the UI and now the experience is actually better than Win 7 because of the more Touch friendly UI in Win 8.

Corrections:
1. Double Desktop - you can actually work very comfrotably within Metro without going to the normal desktop. Of course there're programs like Office which only start in the old Desktop mode but one can quickly switch back to Metro by clicking 1 single button on slate, keyboard or just use the charm by swiping from the right hand side of the screen. Takes an hr to get used to but it's really easy

2. Multiple windows - not really sure what you mean by this but the UI has easy ability to display split screen and work on 2 different programs at the same time. Just swipe from left and stop midway. The size can also be varied by swiping from left to right or reverse - not rocket science!

3. Flat style Icons - agreed, they are flat and not too fancy but that doesn't make them difficult to use or find! The Icons you use to make your argument are actually part of the charms and are always in the same place whatever program is open - always!!

4. Live Tiles - They can get confusing when you install many programs but the USER can very easily customise to only the few they want and even group them by subject or category. Not very confusing, trust me! When grouped it's even easier to just swipe across & get quick highlights based on displayed information then you only click the interesting tile that catches yours attention - not rocket science & trust me, anyone can easily get used to this

5. Charms - i find it amazing that "experienced" users find these confusing. The charms are always in the same place which ever program you are working in. I think this consistency should be commended.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:04 4

23. jopancy (Posts: 55; Member since: 25 Apr 2012)


....I wanted to make the switch from W7 to W8. But I think I'll wait a while and see more reviews and how well people relates to the new OS.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:11 2

27. xfire99 (Posts: 366; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


This is what I felt, first time using Windows 8 desktop version and get tired of all confusing windows tile.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:32 4

28. htclover (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)


Really?

Everywhere on the web I see posts like these. I would amost believe windows 8 is the most worthless peace of software around.
But then, I have been using win8 since it came out as a developers beta. And I say, what is all this nonsence?

I Always thought people wanted new things and innovation. Well people only seem to complain when a product is NOT different and NOT innovative. When it actually is, they complain even harder!

Win8 is really fun and easy to use. It is fast, intuitive and just something fresh. Something microsoft needed. Unlike some other companies who do bearely change their software (I could be referring to a certain company who does this with their phones), Microsoft at least made a bold step. As a tech lover I can really appreciate that.

For those who do not yet have windows 8, go somewhere you can try it or just try it. It is worth it, Those points in the post are 1. not true or 2. just nothing to complain about.

Ps.: I use it on a non touchscreen desktop. It works perfect, unless scrolling is to difficult for you.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 08:47 4

30. networkdood (Posts: 5513; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Yeah, I am sticking with Windows 7 for as long as I can. I skipped Vista and had previously stayed with XP for years - because it works...just as WIN 7 64-bit works great now.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 09:03 2

32. Aeires (unregistered)


I've used Windows since 3.11 and can't remember a single time I've had a hard time learning the new iteration. Winblows 8 is nothing but confusion on the other hand. While I completely agree things need to evolve and progress, 8 is a step in the wrong direction. My prediction, W8 will fail miserably and W9 will look and behave much more like W7 does now.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 09:59 3

34. Pdubb (Posts: 236; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


How can they say experienced users and they can not tell the difference between Windows RT and full Windows 8. The Surface only has Office and IE on the desktop and everything else in the Modern UI. I installed Windows 8 on my old Compaq laptop and I have not experienced any of these pains. Multiple windows- check, finding things through gestures- check, and clicking through to what you want ??? The flat style is refreshing to me I don't like pictures telling me what I want to do all the time.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 11:31

36. wp7tribes (Posts: 52; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


i have been using windows 8 for a month now and i can say it loudly bye bye windows 7

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 11:34 1

37. Meeii (Posts: 10; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


I wonder how people can have problem with this. I have been using windows 8 for months now and for me it's just been an upgrade. I spend like 95% of my time in normal desktop and it's just the same as windows 7 with improvement. What are everyone else doing that are so confusing? The few times I go into metro is smooth.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 11:36 3

38. blattlaus (Posts: 59; Member since: 12 Dec 2010)


So a three year old has no problem using Win8, but 12 "Experienced Users" are baffled by it? (Search Youtube if you don't know what I'm referring to).

It seems to me that a group of people who have had years getting used to and learning Win7 are going to have trouble with a OS with a different paradigm and not like it. In 3 years, get a group of Win8 experienced users and give them Win7 and see what their responses are.

Dog Bites Man- People are more comfortable with the familiar then the new.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 12:03 1

42. Aeires (unregistered)


How long has the 3 year old been using previous Windows versions? Probably never. Ever hear of positive/negative transfer of knowledge? Probably never also.

Every single iteration of Windows prior to 8 has been sequential. 8 is a totally new UI, so there's going to be confusion involved. People have been told for over a decade to hit the Start button to access their programs, now it's all live tiles. If you introduce 8 to a person who's never used Windows before, it would be easier to learn than if they had a very long background with the previous versions.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 23:01

56. OccupyAJob (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Obviously, you didn't go from DOS to Windows.

Some new users took to Windows, many many more asked me for a solid year over and over how to print something or find their files for them... Usually in the root.

Nothing is going to make a new UI easier for people with the attention span of a fruit fly. My own mother used Windows for fifteen years at work. She is an "experienced user," I still have to explain to her how to attach files to an email every other f@$&!ing month.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 23:27

59. Aeires (unregistered)


Killing DOS might have been one of the best things MS did. I played around with DOS but not enough to mention it because I never really did anything serious with it. If you could remember the commands, you could get a some things done quickly but I don't know many people who actually knew all the commands.

I work in an IT department and I'm glad I'm on the Telecom side instead of the computer side. Dealing with a hospital full of nurses trying to learn W8 isn't my idea of fun. Fortunately we just upgraded to W7 so that's a few years away.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 12:06 5

43. doody (Posts: 14; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)


Part of my answer is a cut and paste from another thread I answered.
Used it on a touch screen, it was awesome!

Then I used it on a computer with a mouse, first 20 minutes, I had to adjust to the difference between it and windows 7. After 20 minutes, new how to use it completely and must say it is just as great as the touchscreen experience. Looking at it from a business experience and hearing everyone, especially the IT's out there complaining about no start button and it's not made for business, I now realize that those IT guys are morons or have never even used Windows 8 yet. It is so much better than Windows 7, especially for business. Also, there is a "START BUTTON" it's just the metro look now, and if you need to get to system setting or other system controls it is now as easy as right clicking the start button on the desktop screen.

Also as far as performance, it is really fast, makes you feel like you bought a new faster computer with an ssd. It loads windows way faster, and I have found that a lot of my programs and appz have been loading way faster. Even 3D rendering is faster.

1)Double desktop problem: Really it's that confusing, one is a start menu, one is a desktop, after 15 minutes of use one should grasp this.

2) Lack of multiple windows: metro start screen has spit screen and desktop has multi windows. what's the problem? why would you need multi window for the start screen why not just use desktop if you ever need that?

3) Flat-style icons: yeah there flat, I like them. The point was a more modern clean look without shadows and effect to reduce memory usage. And really you have a hard time distinguish them from other types of content?

4) Low information density: If that does bother you for some reason, which is a users own preference, then that's the apps fault not windows 8.

5) Live Tiles are too active: This is a ridiculous statement and should be fixed, especially when you can turn off the live tile so easily and make it just show the name of the app.

6) Hidden charms: out of sight, out of mind: So when we first had to find system controls and such when we moved to Win 95, it was that much easier that learning where they are in Win 8. We should just never learn anything again to move forward?

7) Confusing gestures: really? confusing, swipe left screen, swipe right screen... are you kidding me, I figured out most of them without any help in about 5 minutes. I think most users would be able to do the same. plus Windows 8 gives you a tutorial on how to use Windows 8 during install. I love how once again, we should not learn anything new to move forward.

This article seems a little over the top on complaining about a OS, to the point of where Icons with no shadows are hard to understand, come one. windows 8 is solid and fast! and I mean fast! uses less ram, and is easy to understand. Everyone took time to understand Win 95, so why cant you take 15-20min to learn windows 8?

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 12:29 1

44. Jyakotu (Posts: 813; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)


When I upgraded to Windows 8 from Windows 7 on my laptop, a non-touch screen one, it wasn't all THAT difficult to get used to. It took me, like what, 10 minutes tops to figure out how to fully use Windows 8. The Desktop app is there and it's EXACTLY like Windows 7. The Start Screen is actually really neat, especially with the Live Tiles and you can pin ANY program on the Start Screen.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 12:54 1

45. downphoenix (Posts: 2232; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


Im enjoying Windows 8 personally. My HTPC boots up about twice as fast as my main PC now, and in loading up some apps, its a lot faster. Also, if you have an issue with an app locking up or freezing and need to close it, the process is really painless in Windows 8, when you click close in the task manager, it just closes, it doesn't throw a hiss fit some of the time it does with previous versions.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 14:09

46. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


test it for 3 days and i get back to windows 7,
maybe windows 8 good for phone and tablet, but for desktop and power user this windows suck, to confusing with settings.
and last untill all apps can support windows 8, i think better use windows 7

+
win 8 have fast file transfer , increase like 30% in my pc and graphic speed.
internet connection stable and i can get maximum speed when download using browser..
new task manager is good
system security good ( sometime make harder to run apps)

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 15:13

48. brenty108 (Posts: 6; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


Windows 8 is rubbish now. hey Bill Gates its time to take back your company from that mad man.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 15:17

49. Jkidd569 (Posts: 10; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Honestly, some of you guys are just be lazy. When a political figure shouts out that change is good we're all for it, not knowing what changes he'll implement. With just Windows 8 now you guys are against it, because its not like windows 7 thats stupid. The flat style icons complaint in the article is just complete nonsense what are you blind. Windows 8 is a really amazing os, yea it may take some time getting used to but its worth it. The live tiles dont move to fast unless its in another language and youre reading it for the first time.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 15:52

50. speckledapple (Posts: 877; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I personally love Windows 8 but I take issue with many of the things in the article and the reason is a proven example of touch screen as a a whole. The history of a touch screen device was never one of ease. People said much of the same things about them, things are hidden, no clue what to do, and many other issues that come with learning a new tech. The windows 8 system is no different than that but it seeingly being made out to be oh so difficult.

I think its great that Windows 8 exists and will be around for a very long time. I also think that there will be no repeat of Vista. As more systems are released, as more computers work with it, and more people use it, all of a sudden it will get the proper play it deserves and most likely will be praised for it. Such is the way of the world.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 15:55

51. twens (Posts: 446; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


I have a very strong feeling all the people commenting here think reviewers are experienced and know a lot about products. When you keep on listening to reviewers you will never learn and get to know a product well enough for yourself.am sure most of you also don't have windows 8. Am using it and all I can say is windows 8 is just like windows 7 or even better. Use it before you complain. You guys just hate change. Grow up and stop nagging.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 20:02

53. jroc74 (Posts: 3977; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Everybody that wants to hate on Vista....think about this for a minute....

XP came out...had some updates, fixes. XP was no where near as good then as it is now. Vista came out. Win 7 came out. Look how long XP was out, had fixes before Vista came out. Now look how long Vista was out before 7. Now 8.

Another thing....look at the difference between ME and 2000 and XP. Look at the difference between Vista and 7. Exactly.... Really...7 is Vista SP2 when you think about it.

If Vista had the same amount of time as XP did.....there would be no 7. Probably no 8 too. MS woulda just introduced an updated UI. Sometimes, you have to look at the bigger picture.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 23:11

57. OccupyAJob (Posts: 6; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Some bad comparisons there.

Windows had two different kernels going side by side for many years. The NT kernel was the business kernel, it evolved into 2000 and XP. It was always a pretty solid kernel.

ME was a total cluster which evolved from the 95 kernel. The consumer kernel was always trash from the start until it collapsed under its own weight in ME.

Vista was supposed to be a completely new kernel but they tried to do too much at once.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 21:12

54. dbeltz (Posts: 1; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Yet another reason to move to Linux. I happen to be very happy with CentoOS 6.3 (More or less Red Hat enterprise) but Ubuntu and Suse are amazing products and wow talk about killer prices and amazing apps too. Microsoft could end up like RIM (Blackberry) a few flops and the market is theirs to loose and the others are coming up fast. Look at Android (Linux Based.) Apple ate most of Rim and Adroid too the rest. Microsoft is losing ground fast to Apple and Linux in the workshop and workstations and slowly eating away at Home user market. Look at the Samsung, Motorola, Asus, Acer, Lenovo, From kids toys to cell phones. It is the future. Starting with Android and Bleeding into the other linux families as they somewhat unify in some high end productivity apps and work on ease of use and installation. Microsoft could be on its way to fall.

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 23:17

58. MC1123 (Posts: 1220; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


i really dislike Windows 8! very confusing to people who is use with the good old look of windows 7... its really annoying to people who dont have touch screen loptops and desktops too!

i just wish it isnt a flop...but the idea for touchscreen is good...but for those gestures for loptops is very confusing!!!

windows 8 is good for touchscreen but for desktop and loptops... no!!!

posted on 20 Nov 2012, 10:53

60. 7thspaceman (Posts: 899; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


windows 8 is the product of the Windows team under Sinofsky who just left Microsoft .
he wanted to change a lot of things about Microsoft windows including dumping tried and true windows programs that worked it is said his team even wanted to get rid of NTFS which made no sense since window NT, XP windows 2000, Vista and Windows 7 use it. to make a new system that would make it incompatible with past Microsoft OS's is a no no! Microsoft will now review Windows 8 as it prepares for Windows 9. Microsoft CEO Mr. Ballmer wants all Microsoft devices to work seamlessly together so Microsoft has a very strong ECO system.. all Microsoft Personnel in all division's are to work to get this done or they will get the AXE. Sinofsky had to leave because he knew the way he wanted things done wont work anymore at Microsoft The Windows team he left behind could go if they do not shape up to help make a strong Windows devices Eco system and that means working well with other Microsoft divisions or leave the Company.

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