Windows 8 tablet from Samsung to be an updated year-old Series 7 tablet
0. phoneArena 09 Nov 2011, 14:41 posted on
When Samsung launches its first Windows 8 tablet, it will be an updated version of the currently available Series 7 tablet that was launched this year; a Samsung executive says that the new Windows 8 tablet should be rolled out in the second half of next year...
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1. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
apple lost a feirce 30% after HC introduction. Wonder what the field will look like this time next year with ICS and W8 tablets . 33% for everyone? lol. They need to bring down the price of those tablets for W8 or thats gonna stall a lot of sales.
3. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
The problem is that Samsung can't beat Apple by just having better specs. The reason why Apple is so successful (and probably angers a lot of tech folks) is because they cater to the general public. They don't deal with specs because the average person will describe themselves as "computer illiterate" (I hate that saying so much). The only way that a company is going to beat Apple is to either make the general public smarter about their technology (which won't happen) or go the way of Apple so the general public can latch on (which will just anger everyone all over again).
So instead of telling them to beat Apple, why not go for having a successful tablet that isn't the iPhone. Even if it takes 20% of the market, that's huge considering no one else has been able to match it.
8. Penny (Posts: 988; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
There are many companies out there that fail in trying to be like their most successful competitors, but I don't think that is the case with Microsoft's Windows 8. With Windows 8, it seems they are trying to bring what they do best (Windows) into the mobile space, a feat that hasn't yet been successfully accomplished by any of the major competitors.
Microsoft doesn't have to show that Windows 8 is better than iOS, nor does it have to say that it is housing the bleeding edge of mobile hardware. What they need to do is convince the consumers that what was once available on your immobile desktop is now available to you wherever you go.
10. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Except Android has takent 30% of the market in the less than year since honeycomb has launched.
Windows has an excellent shot because it, like apple has huge brand recognition. Most computer illiterate people who are looking for a tablet will see "Windows 8" and immediately think of their home computer which is more often than not, windows, and then get that because its familiar to them. That is one thing that MS and Apple definately have over Android. Android is catching up in recognition, but people have been using the other 2 for what.. nearly 30 years now. Thats a power that cant be matched without time in the field.
I really think, that unless MS botches this, that they have a better than not shot of becoming the #1 tablet over time. Eventually my best guess is that it will be MS, Android, Apple in corresponding positions. MS for that brand identity (and windows 8 looks REALLY promising as an actual full computer capable tablet), Android is great but its strength is segment penetration (hitting el cheapos to high end), and iOS will always have its following.
12. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I'm not they can live down the bad stigma. Microsoft has had such a horrible mobile platform in the past that I can't imagine anyone will really trust them. Windows Phone 7 was actually a really awesome platform that Microsoft put some big add money behind and it fizzled. I dunno, a few years ago I never thought anyone could ever touch Microsoft. But with the world of technology today, maybe we should stop thinking that Microsoft can conquer all and accept them as one of many.
...For the life of me, I can't believe I'm actually rooting for Microsoft though. I feel like their a good (not great) company that just got kicked to the ground. I want to see them survive to push iOS and Android and itself.
13. Penny (Posts: 988; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
It's true that Microsoft lost some of its lustre in the mobile space during the later years of WM6. By the time WP7 rolled around, a new era was already underway with iOS (and Android later) leading the charge. Among new consumers, the late arrival meant that many had already found a new home. For their existing loyal users, some of the concessions made by Microsoft in going from a truer OS to a user-friendly OS was the first sign of an impending fall from grace.
You are right that in the current competitive landscape in technology, nothing is certain for any of the participants. The failures of a rather good OS in WebOS, and an innovative concept in MeeGo, are evidence of just how fierce the competition is. But at the end of the day, all a company can try to do is make the best product it can, and convince the people that it is the best product. And to that end, I believe Windows Phone has a fighting chance to be reigned the best mobile OS option down the road.
14. Pdubb (Posts: 237; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
The reason Apple is now successful is because it is the media "darling" right now. Anything Apple does gets press and hype. I understand they release one phone a year but look at the articles about what that phone will be like. The rumors started for the next iPhone as soon as the new iPhone came out. This isn't a knock on Apple I don't think they are just in a good postion at the moment. But with all the talk about their products it becomes easy to feel that these must be the better products. Whether it is the case or not it is increasingly difficult to change public perception when the "critics" of products talk about one product most of the time and compare almost every product to one from Apple. It leads to a biased feel in the public.
4. jove39 (Posts: 1206; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
$1,100...come on Sammy and MS....just give us a break...don't price is more than $700.
6. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
It'd be worth it even if it was $1,100
9. Penny (Posts: 988; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
The $1,100 cost is associated with the tablet Samsung created to give out to developers, and it had very different hardware from what is being described in the above article. The $1,100 tablet had a second generation core-i5 processor, 4GB of RAM, and an SSD, all items you would be hard-pressed to find in a tablet running a mobile OS.
By downgrading to the Ivy-Bridge processors (next generation of Intel Atoms), probably reducing the RAM to 1-2 GB, and using either a lower capacity SSD or removable memory, the cost of this tablet should go down significantly.
5. SuperEd (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Well said gentlemen. Well said. The biggest issue i have is that the "media", PA writers, etc, will always focus on the specs. And your right, the general public could give a rats A$$. As long as it has a little fruit on it...they are sold. MS will do very well in the enterprise. Android and iPad can't even come close. There is a reason it weighs more, is thicker and has a higher price tag. It's like comparing a jacked up Subaru to a Rolls Royce. (apple being the jacked up subaru) it's fast...but it does not go in style.
7. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Actually, I'd have to disagree. Apple has been doing this "Here is what you can do with your iDevice" for years now. I think the only thing Verizon (because they really are the ones that brought Android into mainstream) could do was counter it with boasting the power behind the devices...otherwise they would have been looked at like a copy cat. So smart move on that end because people always want more even if they don't know what more means for them. It was a great marketing campaign.
But now, years later, I think anyone making electronics has to switch gears. People are still very much afraid of technology because they don't understand it. So instead of pushing specs, companies need to push usability. I think there has been enough time that people aren't going to call Copy Cat anymore. I think companies need to stop relying on carriers to promote their products. Give people a reason to buy the Droid Razr or whatever. Same with Microsoft. Show people why they should pick up this very nice alternative (I was a WP7 fan), because until you do, the only people buying your product are the random people talked into it by sales reps or nerds.
11. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, the bulk of people are talked into one OS or another by sales reps and friends.
16. kamen (Posts: 78; Member since: 18 Jul 2011)
Whatever the price, Win8 is the reason I've got no Android tablet.
Imagine Eclipse on a tablet - the perfect combination to spoil a holiday ;-)
18. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
windows 8 is going to be great. buy hopefully it will come with a hand full of manufacturers.