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Will Apple lose the smartphone war without Steve Jobs?

0. phoneArena 26 Nov 2012, 05:50 posted on

It seems some entrepreneurs and analysts believe that without Steve Jobs guiding the company, Apple will slowly lose the smartphone war to Google. Most of you probably know that Google's Android already commands a much larger share of the market, and has been doing so for quite a while, but the reality is that Apple's still raking in much bigger profits, thanks to its extraordinary profit margins...

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posted on 26 Nov 2012, 19:29

85. darkkjedii (Posts: 22110; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I'm not making a fool of myself, and could care less about who thinks I am lol. There is no denial, these r phones. It's not that serious.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:35 8

17. Rocksteady (unregistered)


You have no idea what you're talking about.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 07:00 10

27. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


Nicely brainwashed..... iOS is completely inferior product...... just watch any comparison with Android...... iOS looks like a toddler ;-)

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 07:18 2

30. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


People don't care nor bothered, cause it's cool to and the latest trend!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 09:35 5

57. SleepingOz (unregistered)


How dare you?! It's just a matter of preference, you know.
iOS is not "inferior", it's just that Android the most advanced mobile OS out there.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 19:31

86. darkkjedii (Posts: 22110; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I'm gonna start bashing apple too, just to get those little green thumbs. Not!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 15:54

75. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Apple set the tone of "How To STEAL" arrogantly and get away with it in US of America with help of Govt machinary called Patent Office :)

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 16:35 3

79. THETECHTEAM (Posts: 82; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)


First off learn how to spell. Second Google and Samsung not stealing APPLE boring ideas.!! Apple software but its Samsung idea that UI, the components, the chip, the battery all that make up the Iphones Samsung is behind it. Don't fool yourself Buddy! The only thing that apple can say is theirs in those stupid phones is the software. Do your research

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:20 13

11. iWorld (Posts: 85; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Apple will survive only if they start copying Android,Windows features as they did to apple

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 07:28 9

31. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


They are already doing it with no shame

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:32 2

14. Raymond_htc (Posts: 430; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)


Agreed too. I am an android fan and i salute steve for his really revolutionary innovation. Now steve is gone and Apple's new Tim isn't as innovative as Steve... How is apple gonna win?

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 09:40 4

58. switza93 (Posts: 19; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)


Apple never has and never will have a chance against the new fleet of Android phones coming onto the market. Thousands of people leave Apple for Android on a daily basis. Apple will fall like RIM...

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 11:36 2

65. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 890; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


They actually have a better chance without him cause he was too rigid and the market is changing. Apple's biggest drawbacks are bad press from stupid lawsuits and refusing to adapt to the market. The we are Apple and can do no wrong mentality can only go so far. Don't believe me? Ask RIM.

These new iphones with slightly better specs and unchanging software is reminding me of the Blackberry BOLD.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 19:51

87. metalpoet (unregistered)


i love how it doesnt give the option to pick for "apple will lose with/without jobs" but either way Jobs was an overall brilliant man.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 08:53

96. gelo0291 (Posts: 16; Member since: 06 Nov 2012)


I believe that Apple already lost in the smartphone war even when Steve Jobs was still there.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 05:55 2

2. Peter98 (Posts: 119; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


I'm an Apple fans but I gotta tell everyone. Steve Jobs is really a mastermind of Apple.
Hope they can continue the innovation brought by him.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:45 2

22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I don't know whether Steve was 'the' master mind at Apple. More likely his contribution was insight across 3 or 4 disciplines and he had the drive (and power) to push his vision through to completion. The iPhone basically built on the iPod. The iPod gave Steve the ability (aka cash) to pursue the iPhone. The succes of the iPhone gave Steve the ability to pursue the iPad.

The new team at Apple need to collectively have the vision that Steve was able to pursue. So far, we have seen more of a building out (iPad mini for example) of Steve's contributions. If Apple is able to do to video what it was able to do to audio (iTunes and iPod/iPhone/iPad), maybe it can eclipse Steve's contributions.

At the moment, the jury is still out, however.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 07:03 6

29. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


Tell me 1 innovation from Steve......
I really can't find any
He just made you feel special..... just brainwashed you :-)

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 09:41 1

59. switza93 (Posts: 19; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)


Apple never really had innovation after the iPhone 2G (there best iphone ever)

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 05:56 1

3. sportsinger75 (Posts: 71; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


I feel as though Steve wanted to keep things simple and win that way, but I also feel that if he were still alive and well, he would be doing a lot to try and bring a lot more innovation to Apple like he did his whole career with them. Things were never stale when Steve was around, and he always seemed to know just what to do to bring the people what they wanted and needed. Right now there just seems to be like a lot of confusion within Apple as to what to do in the mobile market right now. They need a true leader and innovator willing to do anything it takes to stay on top and I just don't feel like they've got that anymore.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 05:57 11

4. Nocturne (Posts: 24; Member since: 21 May 2012)


Steve Jobs was great at hype,. Most of his ideas were just stolen and re-packaged from others, but he was offended when others did it. Blaming the customer, not admitting his product faults and basically saying everything was unnecessary until his company released the product.

He gets too much credit for being innovative when he was just eccentric.
Great businessman but average innovator.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:10 6

6. StreetNerd (Posts: 821; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)


steve jobs mastermind?! how -_-

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:11 1

8. wendygarett (unregistered)


Release the new iPhone tomorrow and take my money now :)

Just take a look of Apple cash reserve... Apple wont fail just that sudden lol...

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:13 2

9. wendygarett (unregistered)


Btw, It's too early to tell... Stop the hatred fandroid...

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:18 6

10. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)


It's not a question of whether or not they will fail but whether they can continue their domination of the market. Clearly Apple isn't going to close it's doors if a Nexus outsells its phone.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 07:44

38. mayur007 (Posts: 569; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


As far as thr is inovation..
Dominance will be thr..

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:57 5

26. Rocksteady (unregistered)


Apple won't fail as long as their are consumers like you.
They will gain cash for whatever toy they throw at the market. People will mindlessly buy it, even though it's so overpriced.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 07:40 3

36. mayur007 (Posts: 569; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


thats y there customers are known as "ish##p"..

lol :p

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 09:17 5

52. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


'Release the new iPhone tomorrow and take my money now :)'

That comment right there is very pathetic....

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 16:01

76. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Didn't ENRON fail and took down many big names along with it?

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