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Will Apple lose the smartphone war without Steve Jobs?

0. phoneArena 26 Nov 2012, 05:50 posted on

It seems some entrepreneurs and analysts believe that without Steve Jobs guiding the company, Apple will slowly lose the smartphone war to Google. Most of you probably know that Google's Android already commands a much larger share of the market, and has been doing so for quite a while, but the reality is that Apple's still raking in much bigger profits, thanks to its extraordinary profit margins...

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posted on 26 Nov 2012, 16:23 1

78. kboo1995 (unregistered)

about the grammar mistakes (sorry english is my 3rd language)
iam not here to fight about which OS is better like a 14 years old kid
what iam trying to say is ......... you and many other people like freedom and colored widgets in the background
but there is other people in the world like simple fast and malwarefree OS
got it?

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 16:35 3

79. THETECHTEAM (Posts: 82; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)

First off learn how to spell. Second Google and Samsung not stealing APPLE boring ideas.!! Apple software but its Samsung idea that UI, the components, the chip, the battery all that make up the Iphones Samsung is behind it. Don't fool yourself Buddy! The only thing that apple can say is theirs in those stupid phones is the software. Do your research

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 17:26 3

81. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

yikes! you were "slightly" ok until you added malware in there man :(

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 19:23

83. darkkjedii (Posts: 23606; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Ok thats a fair post.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 19:26

84. darkkjedii (Posts: 23606; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Hi Nathan. Bye Nathan.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 19:29

85. darkkjedii (Posts: 23606; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

I'm not making a fool of myself, and could care less about who thinks I am lol. There is no denial, these r phones. It's not that serious.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 19:31

86. darkkjedii (Posts: 23606; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

I'm gonna start bashing apple too, just to get those little green thumbs. Not!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 19:51

87. metalpoet (unregistered)

i love how it doesnt give the option to pick for "apple will lose with/without jobs" but either way Jobs was an overall brilliant man.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 19:56 1

88. metalpoet (unregistered)

PAPINYC i fully support you in what you said! I regret getting my GS3 because i want that Note 2 for verizon but either way apple is doomed to fail. But i feel i have to put this on here because i almost cried for mankind when i encountered these two evil spoiled lil sh*tz! two kids were checkin out some phones in my store and i asked how i could help them very nicely and they very snarky like said "oh no we were just comparing our iPhone 5's to the inferior materials and technology in the Samsung Galaxy S3, i mean who would ever buy some plastic cellphone" and before i had security escort them and ban them from the store, i very kindly said "well people would buy a phone built from plastic because just in case they drop it, it wont break compared the fragile glass in an iPhone"

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 20:05

89. metalpoet (unregistered)

every wireless carrier i ever worked for paid you crap for selling an iPhone compared to selling an android!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 20:57 1

90. webOSlove (unregistered)

I'm 14, and I don't argue about tedious OSes with my friends.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 05:06

92. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4218; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrre Darrky, Darrky, Darrky...
Darn, that old dog is getting too old!!!
...and to top it, he won't eat anything unless it's iPedigree!!

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 06:45

93. mayur007 (Posts: 577; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)

Ya agree there was a issue , but not supplying issue it was no innovation and old UI issue :p


alot of law suite ?

And who started it ...

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 06:48

94. mayur007 (Posts: 577; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)

Money is not everything ..
Innovation is..

U can survive with over 150% profit getting on each sale .. like Apple

But no innovation u r almost gone ..

Eg. Nokia, BB(RIM)..

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 08:53

96. gelo0291 (Posts: 16; Member since: 06 Nov 2012)

I believe that Apple already lost in the smartphone war even when Steve Jobs was still there.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 05:55 2

2. Peter98 (Posts: 119; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)

I'm an Apple fans but I gotta tell everyone. Steve Jobs is really a mastermind of Apple.
Hope they can continue the innovation brought by him.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:45 2

22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

I don't know whether Steve was 'the' master mind at Apple. More likely his contribution was insight across 3 or 4 disciplines and he had the drive (and power) to push his vision through to completion. The iPhone basically built on the iPod. The iPod gave Steve the ability (aka cash) to pursue the iPhone. The succes of the iPhone gave Steve the ability to pursue the iPad.

The new team at Apple need to collectively have the vision that Steve was able to pursue. So far, we have seen more of a building out (iPad mini for example) of Steve's contributions. If Apple is able to do to video what it was able to do to audio (iTunes and iPod/iPhone/iPad), maybe it can eclipse Steve's contributions.

At the moment, the jury is still out, however.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 07:03 6

29. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)

Tell me 1 innovation from Steve......
I really can't find any
He just made you feel special..... just brainwashed you :-)

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 09:41 1

59. switza93 (Posts: 19; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)

Apple never really had innovation after the iPhone 2G (there best iphone ever)

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 05:56 1

3. sportsinger75 (Posts: 71; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)

I feel as though Steve wanted to keep things simple and win that way, but I also feel that if he were still alive and well, he would be doing a lot to try and bring a lot more innovation to Apple like he did his whole career with them. Things were never stale when Steve was around, and he always seemed to know just what to do to bring the people what they wanted and needed. Right now there just seems to be like a lot of confusion within Apple as to what to do in the mobile market right now. They need a true leader and innovator willing to do anything it takes to stay on top and I just don't feel like they've got that anymore.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 05:57 11

4. Nocturne (Posts: 24; Member since: 21 May 2012)

Steve Jobs was great at hype,. Most of his ideas were just stolen and re-packaged from others, but he was offended when others did it. Blaming the customer, not admitting his product faults and basically saying everything was unnecessary until his company released the product.

He gets too much credit for being innovative when he was just eccentric.
Great businessman but average innovator.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:10 6

6. StreetNerd (Posts: 834; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)

steve jobs mastermind?! how -_-

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:11 1

8. wendygarett (unregistered)

Release the new iPhone tomorrow and take my money now :)

Just take a look of Apple cash reserve... Apple wont fail just that sudden lol...

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:13 2

9. wendygarett (unregistered)

Btw, It's too early to tell... Stop the hatred fandroid...

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:18 6

10. Contreramanjaro (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)

It's not a question of whether or not they will fail but whether they can continue their domination of the market. Clearly Apple isn't going to close it's doors if a Nexus outsells its phone.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 06:57 5

26. Rocksteady (unregistered)

Apple won't fail as long as their are consumers like you.
They will gain cash for whatever toy they throw at the market. People will mindlessly buy it, even though it's so overpriced.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 07:40 3

36. mayur007 (Posts: 577; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)

thats y there customers are known as "ish##p"..

lol :p

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 07:44

38. mayur007 (Posts: 577; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)

As far as thr is inovation..
Dominance will be thr..

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 09:17 5

52. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

'Release the new iPhone tomorrow and take my money now :)'

That comment right there is very pathetic....

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 16:01

76. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

Didn't ENRON fail and took down many big names along with it?

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