White House lawyers talk with Samsung about Ortiz selfie
0. phoneArena 06 Apr 2014, 22:27 posted on
Just when you thought that you had heard the last about that selfie of Boston Red Sox slugger David Ortiz and President Barack Obama, than the topic became fodder for the Sunday afternoon panel discussion shows. Believe it or not, in a world where there is trouble in the Ukraine, trouble with the president's healthcare website, a triple-digit decline in the NASDAQ index, and a shooting at a U.S. military base, a picture taken with a smartphone...
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2. talon95 (Posts: 91; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
This is just dumb. The president is holding up a Red Sox jersy and then they say he can't promote a product? The samsung device isn't even in the pic it took, so it was other people who took the picture that contained what phone took the picture. And if merely taking a picture with a device constitutes promotion then I don't think the president can take any pictures at all, or ride in any vehicle, or wear any clothes. Yikes :)
Samsung must love it. It's the negative publicity that makes the news. If anything the president's own legal action is a greater source of publicity than the selfie ever was. It's like with the Apple lawsuits, they probably end up paying a billion but make 2 billion from the publicity it generates.
7. Whopyourass (unregistered)
Talon95: Geez what a brainless dumb argument you make here. Do you even know the difference between an intended publicity drive and an unintended publicity stunt here? LMAO. The President holding up a Red Sox Jersey is pure legitimate because it's part of the intended event that he's attended, so whatever coverage he enjoys there is already known to everyone.
But whats going on here that's UNKNOWN to the POTUS and his staff is that some sneaky marketing people behind Samsung decided to make use of Big Papi's sponsored Samsung phone to take a selfie with the President and then use it as blatantly as their marketing material as if the White House approved of it. And Samsung promoted it. For that, Samsung deserves to be blasted, Hell Yeah.
Do u bother to think carefully before you drafted your argument? Think! If a celeb like e.g. Miley Cyrus gets approached by some random fella who asks to take a photo with her and he's holding a bag of Potato Chips. Celebrity suspects nothing and allows him to take a photo together, and BOOM! Suddenly this photo appears on Twitter one day later with the tagline: " Great Shot, we LOVE Ruffles Potato Chips! " So you mean there's nothing wrong with it? LOL.
If you dun think there's anything wrong. Then I have this to say to you: The next time I see u on the streets, I'm gonna snap a photo of you. Nothing wrong you say? Next I'm gonna put your photo up on Twitter and say " Never take XXX brand pills, cos they suck. Look what happens to you. Courtesy of Brand AAA. " LMAO.
8. Tizen007 (Posts: 548; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Your argument is not based on jealousy : It's "flirting" for little green thumbs.
9. KingaSpades (Posts: 45; Member since: 04 Nov 2013)
As a Samsung fanboy your feelings are hurt. And that's understandable...Not it's not. Your argument is stupid. They did some dirt and now they will pay. Period.
11. PBXtech (Posts: 994; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
It's just a photo. Relax.
Everywhere the president goes he's taken photos of. SMH why anyone would be bothered by this, unless they're just Samsung haters.
15. Zeeya (Posts: 222; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)
its not... its a non american firm which used the president for a promo... that means war :D
21. RodStiffington (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Feb 2014)
Whopyourass, the education system has failed you.
1. Using "brainless dumb" is a literal redundancy.
2. Your definitions of publicity “drive” and “stunt” are, in fact, your definitions based on observation. How can you criticize anyone who doesn’t abide by your unknown definitions? Is everyone “brainless dumb” for not purchasing your most recently published dictionary? I’m sure your version clearly defines the differences between a publicity drive, and publicity stunt.
3. Just because you don’t agree with Samsung’s marketing tactics doesn’t make their efforts a “stunt.” In marketing, thousands of companies are making ALL the attempts at gaining the views attention. Not dozens of attempts, not many attempts, but all the attempts. This is the reality of their business environment. Don’t like what happens as a result? You have the God given right to move along.
4. It’s either “purely legitimate” or “pure legitimacy.” Using “pure legitimate” does a disservice to both words.
5. The President of the United States (POTUS) often holds photo opportunities with a wide array of individuals, who unknowingly have their likeness used in promotional material specifically benefiting the President. The Presidency isn’t a commercial enterprise, so news features equate to informative advertisements.
6. Side note: you have to state the components of the words or phrases you use within an acronym, before you actually start using the acronym itself. How are readers supposed to know what are SNAP benefits, if you’ve never written Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)?
7. David Ortiz took a picture, and didn’t use Samsung’s name anywhere. Oh no, @SamsungMobileUS retweeted the picture?!? A scandal befitting a House Oversight Committee, indeed!
8. It’s either “If a celeb like Miley Cyrus…” or using “e.g. Miley Cyrus….” Another redundancy.
9. Your Miley Cyrus, random person, Ruffles example would be quite fitting…if the RANDOM PERSON WAS WORLD FAMOUS BASEBALL PLAYER!!! Mouth-breather! A random person holding Ruffles bag DOES NOT EQUAL David Ortiz! Also, if your example is to be comparative, the random person couldn’t be displaying any product, and couldn’t have a product centered tagline because Ortiz display anything or USE a tagline!
10. A more astute example would be Ray-Ban signing David Ortiz to a sponsorship deal the day before a photo opportunity with the President. The Ray-Ban case would be on worse footing, because his glasses actually say Ray-Ban on the corner, and are featured in the picture itself. No mention of Samsung at all in the tweet.
11. If the National Football League (NFL) uses Panasonic High Definition (HD) cameras to broadcast the Super Bowl, no one would know unless someone took a picture of the camera itself. The same concept is applied to this situation.
Please read a book, or at the very least, a scientific magazine once in a while. You need more perspective.
22. Whopyourass (unregistered)
@Rodstiffington: I didn't read your nonsensical wall and text and hit the reply button LOLLLLL. All I wanna say is STFU and nobody even bothers to like your wall of Crap. Talk to my Hand. Wooo !!~~
28. Korgoth22 (Posts: 17; Member since: 21 Dec 2013)
What's wrong with you, are you 13 years old or something? The man just made you look like an uneducated loser, & you respond with "LOLLL" & "STFU".
Rodstiffington +1 FTW.
19. bon24x7 (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
Merely taking a picture is not a problem, but Samsung used this image for publicity which is NOT acceptable in any way unless you're a Samsung fanboy or supporter..
23. corporateJP (Posts: 2148; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
President Obama, no matter how horrible of a job he has done or is doing, is a public figure in the public domain. Unless Samsung said somewhere that Obama supports the device or product, there's no case here.
And to put some of you slight-minded people to rest, I am neither a Democrat or Republican, and I also use an iPad, a Moto tablet, and a Nokia smartphone.
I call shots like I see them, point blank, from a better position than from inside my rectum.
31. roscuthiii (Posts: 1887; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Yep, that was going to be my humble observation... Obama being a public figure and the photo being taken in public.
However, wow... Rod went above and beyond. Well done. At least there are a few people exhibiting common sense around here.
3. Killua (Posts: 270; Member since: 25 Nov 2013)
Meh, they're making things like this a big deal. So pointless, so stupid.
5. robert26101 (Posts: 90; Member since: 21 Mar 2014)
Do you guys not check your facts? There is no trouble with the Health care website. It's been fixed for months.
13. Alan01 (Posts: 236; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)
Not true. On March 31st, the site was down all day.
16. willard12 (Posts: 958; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
It was down twice on March 31st and fixed both times. Either way, the first open enrollment period ended March 31st and there are "currently" no issues with a website. So, you can take one off the list.
32. roscuthiii (Posts: 1887; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
How was it down all day, when I used it that exact day to compare the ACA plans with what plans my company offered???
It may have been down part of the day, but "all day" is hyperbolic.
6. shuaibhere (Posts: 1737; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
They are making out this to be a big issues....to hide real problems...
12. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 1631; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
That Obama's selfie was less popular than Ellen's?
14. Gawain (Posts: 380; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)
Dan Pfeiffer is a f**k**g tool. No better example of a guy that holds water for an incompetent administration and doesn't even know how f**k**g stupid he is.
17. MyLifeOnline (Posts: 8; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
There wasn't issues with the website. It was people either trying to sign up for Health care all day at the same time because it was the last day (unexpected servers crashing because of procrastinators) , or they intentionally shut it down because the dead line was met and they have to wait until the next enrollment period. Just a little advice is to make sure you have accurate information before finalizing posts.
26. corporateJP (Posts: 2148; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
You must work for the administration, because your full of lame excuses.
18. aditya.k (Posts: 490; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)
Yeah. If it was Apple then it would be okay.
20. darkkjedii (Posts: 13800; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Sweet selfie, I love both of those cats. The jedsters selfies rock more though.
27. 1ceTr0n (Posts: 534; Member since: 20 May 2012)
Apple is sulking in the corner while craddling Job's tombstone
29. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6876; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Typical whitehouse bureaucrat. why the heck everyong think that SAMSUNG is promoting when they see some celebrity doing a selfie shot with someone for? First Ellen now this
30. pwnarena (Posts: 1006; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
there's a BIG difference in saying "Ukraine" and "The Ukraine." the latter undermines Ukraine's independence. it will irk Ukrainians. it will favor the hegemonic Russians.