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Which country has the fastest 4G service? Hint, the U.S. is eighth

0. phoneArena 13 Feb 2013, 21:40 posted on

Sweden not only was the first country to launch LTE service, it also has the fastest 4G speeds among other countries in the world with an average download speed of 22.1 Mbps, that was followed by the average 19.6 Mbps download speed in Hing Kong; the U.S. was eighth fastest on the planet with an average download speed of 9.6 Mbps...

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posted on 13 Feb 2013, 21:49 4

1. D_Tech-tive (Posts: 104; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


No surprise about U.S.

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 21:57 10

2. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)


Sprint's dragging down the U.S.

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:10 3

3. StrumerJohn (Posts: 66; Member since: 18 May 2011)


Hahaha yep!

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 08:47 2

28. TheRequiem (Posts: 160; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)


Incorrect, Sprint has developed Network Vision using new technology from Samsung (the only other country using modular Fiber optic tech is South Korea) and are building a complete redux of their network (basically stripping towers bare and putting up all ne wmodern equipment). Unfortunately, AT&T & Verizone simply upgraded legacy tower's with LTE. In the long run, Sprint/ Softbank and their spectrum assets (which is more then all other US Carriers spectrum, combined) will bring about one of the most advanced wireless networks in North America. Keep in mind, Clearwire, has over 160mhz in high-end LTE Spectrum and Sprint willl be using several frequencies for LTE... this will result in LTE Advanced speeds far past the 100mbps. Verizon and AT&T will have trouble with their spectrum/ subscriber counts. Also, fyi, I have witness Sprint LTE and have hit over 40mbps on it... so alas, you are incorrect.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 09:23 1

29. troutsy (Posts: 281; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


So you are a Sprint user, incredibly delusional, and totally biased.... Thanks for stopping by! :-)

posted on 16 Feb 2013, 15:29

40. depeche (Posts: 60; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Sprint did a lot of hardware upgrades with the roll out of Wi-Max; they are just changing software and trying to add the nearly disbanded Iden network bands.

They have a lot of Bands to work with, unlike AT&T

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:15

4. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1052; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)


Hong Kong? Is that separate from china?

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 23:27 10

14. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3024; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


If your geography is based on iMaps, then no.

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 23:35 2

15. imsickwithsmartphone (Posts: 153; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Part of China but Hong Kong have their own administration...

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 19:30

33. hepresearch (unregistered)


Are there any LTE networks in China that are not also in Hong Kong? If not, then TD-SCDMA is tops elsewhere in China.

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:21 9

5. faunte (Posts: 1; Member since: 13 Feb 2013)


The U.S. has states with a bigger population than Sweden! If their wireless companies all had the luxury of focusing ONLY on California, this may be a different story. Since we're comparing apples to oranges, let's compare amount of space and number of people covered with cell or data coverage. These countries don't have significant populations of people living in rural areas like the U.S. does. It's a bogus comparison in my opinion.

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:33 2

9. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


This is a good point. Because since I've been on LTE, I average 10Mbps down in weaker reception areas. In a good to great areas, 25-30. I have Verizon, live in the DC, MD, VA area; MD to be exact. You could consider all 3 one area...they are so close together.

I live closer to DC...but on speed tests...I get faster speeds from VA or Baltimore servers.

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 23:06 2

13. threed61 (Posts: 133; Member since: 27 May 2011)


Canada is larger in area and Australia nearly as large both with vast rural areas.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 01:01 4

20. dsDoan (Posts: 223; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


Canada's boundary contains masses of open water. If you compare strictly land mass, the US is larger.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 01:31 5

23. shuaibhere (Posts: 1660; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Lol..you guys are talking about 4g lte....and here in india even 3g not fully implemented....

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 04:29 3

25. iWorld (Posts: 85; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


waiting for 3G scam news.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 08:13

27. shuaibhere (Posts: 1660; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Surely it'll be the news in near future...

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:24 2

6. wendygarett (unregistered)


I thought south Korea is the 1st and Japan 2nd?

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:30

7. Tux_Alan (Posts: 74; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


Gosh, fourth!

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:32 2

8. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)


Both Verizon and Sprint are dragging down the US

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:35 2

10. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Sprint, I agree....Verizon.....dont agree. I think Verizon and AT&T are probably fighting for 1 and 2 for fastest, best speeds.

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:47 3

12. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)


Verizon has the best LTE speeds. Not sure what you're smoking..

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 23:47 2

16. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8840; Member since: 14 May 2012)


AT&T is faster than Verizon. But give T-Mobile a few months, and will be faster than both of them thanks to LTE Advanced. :)

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 00:49 4

19. zibbyzib2000 (Posts: 203; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)


I'm pretty sure AT&T and T-Mobile bring the 4G average down quite a bit since they consider their HSPA+ 4G and it's not even close to LTE speeds.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 01:26 4

22. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2568; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I'm so tired of people saying HSPA+ is not even close to LTE. First off, there are multiple types of HSPA+. The version T-Mobile employs in most of its markets is the dual-band HSPA+42 variety. With it, I average 15-20 down with spikes over 25. Don't tell me that's not comparable to LTE. It is true that the up speeds are lacking in comparison to LTE, though.

posted on 16 Feb 2013, 09:48

38. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I agree. HSPA+....I would gladly take that if I wasnt on Verizon. Or if Verizon had that.

My issues with other carrriers is coverage. I know even Verizon has dead zones. I live n work in or around one. It just seems like for my area....Verizon's dead zones is smaller than Sprint n T Mo. AT&T.....not sure about...but they might actually be better in my area.

Whats really odd is in my building...Sprint might work better than Verizon. But its like its confined to the building and immediate surrounding area.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 01:03 2

21. dsDoan (Posts: 223; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


You can't say AT&T or Verizon is the fastest. It depends on where you live. On Verizon, I average 35 Mbps down 10 Mbps up, but I've gotten peaks of almost 70 Mbps and over 20 Mbps up.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 19:25 1

32. lsutigers (Posts: 761; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)


lol, I have been ALL OVER the country with my Verizon phone and NEVER gotten anywhere even close to 70 mbps...C'mon now, I like my Verizon but that's not accurate.

posted on 16 Feb 2013, 09:51

39. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I agree with this. Mine hasnt either.

But...I have seen ppl with Verizon posts speeds of 50Mbps and up. Its usually ppl with an HTC phone.

Motorola was and probably still is using older LTE tech than Samsung and HTC. So in a way it could depend on the phone, what tech it has inside.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 00:24 1

17. g2a5b0e (Posts: 2568; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I'm pretty sure he wasn't referring to data speeds.

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 22:38

11. Vorsayo (Posts: 21; Member since: 29 Jan 2012)


I thought South Korea would be first. The entire country has access to a 1000 Mbps IPS. Guess that doesn't translate to having the fastest 4G average. All though no one really has true 4G yet. Definition of 4G being 100 Mbps for mobile (in car or on train) and 1000 Mbps standing still.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 00:44

18. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


So this is nothing more than an advertisement for "opensignal" ??? PA may want to disclose their interest in future.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 03:40 1

24. gaby1451 (Posts: 113; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


Wait, can someone please explain the last part about the U.S. LTE networks being in 10MHz and 20MHz vs. Europe's 40MHz. I don't understand, what's the difference and how does it pertain to download speeds?

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 09:32 1

30. troutsy (Posts: 281; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


Higher frequency allows for faster data transmission. If I type this response at 1 letter/second, its going to take twice as long compared to typing it at 2 letters/second.

Higher frequency waves are much higher energy and can't carry for as long of a distance. Hence, it's not as practical in the US.

***I'm not an expert in electromagnetic wave theory, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 19:47

34. hepresearch (unregistered)


Its about bandwidth. If you are looking at two networks, both operating around the same frequency... let's say 1900 MHz just for this example... that are using identical technology... let's say LTE for this example... then the size of the sliver of that band that they are using is what we are referring to as 'bandwidth'. Basically, this is saying that while an American carrier is using either 10 or 20 MHz of the 1900 MHz band (which is centered around 1900 MHz), the Europeans are using 40 MHz in the same band. Now, as the band center increases, you can get more information into a smaller sliver of bandwidth because the 10 MHz sliver at 1900 MHz is less of a ratio jump than 10 MHz is at, say, 850 MHz. Also, higher power is allowed at lower frequencies, and so longer range of interference becomes a bigger problem at lower frequencies as well.

Sprint's 10 MHz in the 1900 band, and MetroPCS' 10 MHz in the 1700 band, are not bad in comparison to the 20 MHz for AT&T and Verizon in the much lower 700 and 750 bands. They are all very poor, though, when compared to 40 MHz in the 1800, 2100, and 2600 bands elsewhere in the world. That much bandwidth in that high of a frequency band range is a crucial factor in allowing for more simultaneous data sessions and higher data speeds on international LTE networks. Ever wondered why WiFi always got 20 Mbps long before 1xEv-DO could get 3 Mbps? Yeah... WiFi is often found in the 2300 and 2500 bands, where you don't need a lot of bandwidth to get higher speeds and higher numbers of available simultaneous connections, and ran at very low power so as to avoid interference over any significant range.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 05:44

26. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


we have much more area to cover sure and its the anal carriers again but we should do better

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 19:57

35. hepresearch (unregistered)


On the contrary... the coverage is small because of the area, but the speed of data is not a function inverse to area. It is, in fact, the network saturation on a smaller bandwidth that is the issue here in the States. LTE bandwidth here is essentially only a quarter of what they get overseas, is buggy because it is largely in the 700 MHz region where interference and attenuation issues plague the system, and our LTE networks have, thanks to great marketing and urgency expressed by the carriers here and their mutual insane drive to push everyone to consume more and more data at all times on all these newer and faster devices, been choked with a flood of new customers. Our big problem is backhaul... too many customers trying to eat up too much data at once slows everything down for everyone, and the land-based data-line end of things becomes yet another bottleneck in supply and demand. Elsewhere in the world, there are not as many customers who are willing to pay the premium for the newest handsets or the fastest data (or even the highest data caps), and so the overseas networks are often able to accomodate more sessions AND deal with less traffic overall, anyway. It is the effect of having a big shiny new network that is effectively empty... the overseas LTE data speeds can't help but be fantastic under those circumstances.

posted on 14 Feb 2013, 10:40

31. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Of course, with the carriers jacking up the price and speed caps... It's a no brainer why US is only the 8th and averaging half the speed of the top 1 and 2.

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 05:28

36. longhairbilly (Posts: 64; Member since: 23 Aug 2010)


Ya, but who pays the most for wireless data? Suck it the rest of the world. U.S.A! U.S.A!

posted on 15 Feb 2013, 08:00

37. hepresearch (unregistered)


Proud to pay more? And for less?

posted on 09 Oct 2013, 02:17

41. aussie1 (Posts: 1; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)


Australia went to 4G in September 2009, and was only the 2nd country in the world apart from South Korea. 4.5 G starts here in late 2014 , Europe in late 2015 and the US in 2017. 4 G here is exceptionally fast and a massive improvement over the 3.5 G system. The reason why the US will take longer to change over is due to it's only recent conversion to 4 G, (only completed less than 12 months ago) and even now the majority of mobile phones in use in the US are incompatible with other countries systems, so it's going to be a massive job to catch up with the rest of the world as far as compatibility is concerned.

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