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What's the benefit of having an HD screen

0. phoneArena 26 Oct 2011, 11:04 posted on

Okay, so it looks like we're making quite a big deal out of the fact that we're beginning to see phone screens sporting HD resolutions. With all this hype around such displays, like the ones present on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy Note, it seems logical that we should also be well aware of the extent to which we're actually benefiting from this...

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posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:12

1. tech-head (Posts: 133; Member since: 02 Sep 2011)


I have a question. I am someone trying to decide whether to get a GS2 or a Galaxy Nexus. Both have great screens with one being HD. Of course the Nexus will look better and have ICS but what about app compatibility? Games? Will apps/games look like crap on a HD phone?

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:54

14. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


SGS2 will get ICS...someday - if you are into rooting, then XDA will have the newest firmware from the samsungfirmware.com website up and running on the SGS2 in no time.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 12:17 2

23. rf1975 (Posts: 258; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


As still we did not see any bench mark it hard to decide. I heard that the Nexus is using an overclocked PowerVR540GPU which is not good as Mali-400MP found in GSII. If you are a mobile gamer then better go for GSII. iPhone 4S uses a better GPU (543MP2) but its screen is very small for mobile game. Or wait for GSIII ;-)

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 12:35

27. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


then wait 8 to 10 months..

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 17:24

41. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 111; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


But its has better cpu which should pick up slack an gpu is overclocked an benchmarks i have seen put Nexus ahead in some cases an good benchmarks 2 Java Script

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 16:53

40. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


go with the nexus. the point of ics is to reduce fragmentation by puting together the best elements of 2.3 and 3.2 to make the os better overall and raise compatibility.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 18:03

43. Ivan6479 (Posts: 250; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Also the GS2 has gorilla glass and the Galaxy Nexus doesn't. That alone would seal the deal for me. Some think it doesn't make much of a difference, but I beg to differ. Here is a link to a video of the GS2 vs the iPhone 4S, so have a look and then think about your decision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw&feature=share

Also seeing how the GS2 is Samsung's Flagship device I'm sure Samsung will be working hard to get the people ICS. At least hope anyways. :)

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 21:05

47. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


gorilla glass is a big deal for me, for sure.

Between the 2 its a toss up. do you want the better processor, maybe better camera, and gorilla glass... or do you want the better screen, ICS with guaranteed updates, no manufacturer UIs or junk, hardware taylor made for the OS, and a bigger screen?

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 05:53 1

55. Firedrops (Posts: 249; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)


I would prefer T-Mobile's SGS 2, which has a 1.5GHz which afaik is not overlocked. That means it can be clocked to even higher speeds if you want to. In a few months the GS2 is going to get updated with ICS anyways.
The apps will not look like crap on a HD phone, in fact they should look better. Most apps render images based on percentage of screen size, so proportions are usually maintaned.
As others have pointed out, GS2 also has the advantage of Gorilla Glass.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 12:52

62. KRONeage (Posts: 144; Member since: 17 Apr 2011)


Since Android 1.6, developers have all had to have three sets of assets. A set for Small displays, Medium displays and Large displays. Since Android 2.1 they've added Extra Large or Tablet screen assets. Which means every App since Android 2.1 has had super high resolution quality assets!

Contrary to Apple's philosophy of one set for whichever device the App is for and then the device uses a scaler to zoom graphical assets on a larger screen like iPad's. But that's why they made tablet specific platform graphics. So they didn't have to scale far inferior graphics meant for phones. Scalers are cop outs no matter what the quality is and it's what keeps iPhones locked into 3.5" screens.

With a larger screen they are forever locked never having native sized assets and everything gets scaled. As it is, all older apps are using scaling. Scaling is taking the same pixel resolution and line doubling it. These leaves holes where data has to be interpolated and is no longer a true representation of the original artwork or graphics. In video that is routinely in 16:9 wide screen, the larger screen benefits are negated with padding top and bottom along loss of detail.

Although scaling makes it less evident, it doesn't come close to being like near native screen resolution on Android w/ four sets of assets on the majority of games and Apps in the store. DPI is the deciding factor on Android. This means majority of apps and games will display beautifully on Nexus, because it already has high DPI graphical assets w/o using any quality reducing scaling just using Tablet PC assets on HD screened phones!!!

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:13 1

2. dirtydirty00 (Posts: 421; Member since: 21 Jan 2011)


i agree. there is no difference.

but this is just some crying from iPhoneArena not being able to call the retina #1 any longer in resolution.

i have a TB and to be honest... whats the diff between my screen and a retina? nothing that will make a difference in the way we actually use our phones.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:28 6

5. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


how is this crying? they are saying that android has caught up. if it upset 'iphone arena' they simply wouldnt cover it.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:36 3

7. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Agreed, I think PA has been very fair in their coverage of both iPhone and Android lately. Just because you personally don't like the iPhone doesn't mean it should get ignored or berated by the site.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:33

6. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


There may not be much difference between the Retina and your TB screen, because both will require you to zoom in to read text - because it's too small on the iPhone and because it's too blurry on the TB. On the Galaxy text will be both larger and clearer. It'll make a huge difference reading web pages and documents.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:39

58. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Unless you have poor eyesight you don't need to zoom in at all on the iPhone 4(4s). I know I never needed to.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 14:45 1

37. FAW-Q (Posts: 63; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)


If you haven't notticed, Phone Arena is actually one of the only blogs on the entire internet that does not show any biases towards Android or iPhones in their articles. Why do you think there are so many Android Fanboys hanging around this site?

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 21:06

48. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


it all depends on WHO is writing the blogs. It used to be crazy biased twards apple, but they have gotten a lot better in the last few months.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 07:24 2

61. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


ive been reading the site for years. this is absolutely not true.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:13

3. android_hitman (unregistered)


let me translate this: don't buy other phones, just buy the outdated Iphone 4s because the differences are not that big! Really?
or
buy and Iphone 4s because the quality of the movies are the same as a professional Canon camera.

i love PhoneArena ads :) keep them comming

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:38 4

8. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


what?

the iphone used to have a clearly superior resolution. all they are saying here is that android has caught up.

how can you dolts see this as anything other than a proandroid article?

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:44 5

10. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Well, since it didn't put down the iPhone, it must therefore be pro-iPhone. I swear, it's like national politics here. If you're not against something, you must be for it.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 21:07 3

49. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


only the sith think in absolutes! :)

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 05:55

56. Firedrops (Posts: 249; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)


That statement itself is an absolute! You're a sith! :D

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:41

59. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


My sentiments exactly. Guys like that show the difference between fans and fanboys.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:55

15. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


hmmm, I mean the iphone 4S is a nice phone and has an excellent camera - the SGS2 has a camera that some say is just as good.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 12:04

18. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


But the SGS2 screen has pretty poor fine detail, which is what we're discussing here. Check out PA's article on HD Super AMOLED Pentile. SAMOLED Plus is very pixelated compared to both the iPhone and Nexus.

Now, the SGS3... that'll be a killer phone.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 21:03

60. cupcake (Posts: 106; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)


If this is how the article has translated to you, you have very abstract logic. Also, if you see most PhoneArena articles as ads, why do you bother not merely reading, but also taking the time to create an account and comment on them ...? o.0

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:26

4. Synack (Posts: 677; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


Now I'm not gonna go and do what I normally do when people write articles saying the iPhone4S is better than the Galaxy Nexus. Normally I call them out for being an idiot.

This time, I'll say this, if you look at the LETTERS and not the background patterns, like most people do, then you'll see the Nexus letters are very slightly clearer and the iPhone's are slightly blurrier. In this case, you wrote an article saying the iPhone was better than the Nexus, but you posted a picture saying the exact opposite. Good job!

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:41 1

9. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


how are they saying the iphone 4s is better?

this is a comment section to be used as example of fandroid bias.

the article is saying that DESPITE a slight edge in ppi for the iphone, the galaxy nexus is close enough to be considered equal AND has a bigger screen.

posted on 26 Oct 2011, 11:51 3

12. snowgator (Posts: 3601; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Wow. There are a handful of obsessive iPhone haters out here. Throw any article with the iPhone name on it and they lose their ever-livin'-minds, even when the article is very complimentary to an Android device. I truly do not get how you can read this piece and not see how it is a pro-Nexus. Besides, is it really that offensive to say the iPone still has a good screen?

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