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What's in a touch? The Samsung Galaxy S III polycarbonate debate

0. phoneArena 21 May 2012, 17:57 posted on

Earlier we told you all that the Samsung Galaxy S III has a case and battery cover that is made of polycarbonate, not just regular plastic, which means the case is much stronger, more durable, and more scratch resistant...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 21 May 2012, 21:11 2

38. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Michael: you didn't answer the question. You should be aware that polycarbonates are classified as #7 and not every town recycles polycarbonates in the same manner as 2-liter soda pop containers. Separately, you should know polycarbonates is one of the more toxic plastics.

You spend the bulk of the article waxing poetic benefits of polycarbonate, yet you are unable to provide sound statistics from the EPA or Chemical Industry with respects to actual amount of polycarbonate being recycled. Telling me more baby bottles were recycled doesn't mean anything -- that might impress the android camp due to its nice sound bite.

Again, do you have hard data from established sources?

posted on 21 May 2012, 21:17 4

40. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ardent,
has apple found a way to recycle any of the toxic materials it uses, does it have a national recycle program for iphones since the SUPER TOXIC batteries are built into it? Regular phones do.

Just shut it, troll.

posted on 22 May 2012, 00:00 3

53. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


No, I don't have hard data from any sources, which is exactly why I didn't broach the topic in the article. The point of the article was simply to pose the question of where the general bias against something "feeling plasticky" comes from. I had no intention or interest in diving into a much larger topic of the environmental impact of this technology. That would be something for a completely separate article, one that I don't intend to write unless I have the time to do the proper research on the topic.

I do know that not all towns recycle polycarbonates, but I also know that it is becoming more common for recycling centers to accept polycarbonates because of just what I mentioned. I never said that it was anywhere near a majority, or even close to enough to cover the demand for recycling these products. All I said is that it's an issue that is getting attention, and will likely get more as polycarbonates are used in more and more products.

posted on 21 May 2012, 20:50 2

31. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


As strong as polycarb is per sq mm, it will be able to find many many recyclable uses. Maybe it will even make it to the iphone 6. :) Apple already uses samsung's left over chip production, why not their left over plastics too? :) :) :) j/k

posted on 21 May 2012, 18:27 2

9. 1ceTr0n (Posts: 549; Member since: 20 May 2012)


Oh and informative article. Its always the ignorant and or uninformed peeps/trolls/fanboys that cry out first before they know the facts.

Or it just boils down that someone made a better product overall then what they have already and are butthurt by it and dunno how to respond other then act like a spoiled brat kid in a toy store

posted on 21 May 2012, 18:38 1

10. ph00ny (Posts: 1264; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Issue with that earlier article is because you flat out and said polycarbonate not plastic

As you said, despite the difference between G1 and S3, they're both smartphones aren't they? Just because one is significantly better doesn't make it any less what it is

posted on 21 May 2012, 19:35 2

21. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Urg, I had edited the earlier article to fix that, but the system never cleared the cache so the changes didn't make it to the site. Should be fixed now.

posted on 21 May 2012, 18:41 2

11. SprintPower (Posts: 74; Member since: 29 Dec 2008)


The Gorilla Glass analogy was right on point and should shut the ignorant mouths of the moron masses.

posted on 21 May 2012, 20:38 1

29. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


but it wont

posted on 21 May 2012, 18:44 2

12. technot (Posts: 7; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)


Why Samsung is stubborn and still opted "plastic" for SG3? This was also the criticism for SG2 and yet it became the best smartphone of 2011 and sold 20 million units.

posted on 21 May 2012, 20:51 2

32. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


and the critisism for the SGS1 which was the best selling android device until the SGS2. The SGS3 in all of its "plastic" has already outsold all other android devices that dont say "galaxy S" on them, and even the iphone4s launch.. just in pre orders. haters can hate.. the rest of us will enjoy a super top notch product.

posted on 21 May 2012, 18:44 1

13. joey18 (Posts: 589; Member since: 20 Jul 2010)


But still be plastic not like htc one x the beauty and stile the gs3 pop easy i dont liked the case needs to be more stronger and style

posted on 21 May 2012, 21:29 2

43. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


have you got an s3 to know how it feels...cause so far all reviews have said it feels great in the hand and when the back is on which is going to be 99% of the time the phone has no creaks or bends etc.

posted on 21 May 2012, 18:58

15. humandroid (Posts: 58; Member since: 11 May 2012)


Michael H article. tl, dr

posted on 21 May 2012, 19:38 7

22. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


If you didn't read it, don't comment. Simple. Sorry that 688 words is too many for you.

posted on 21 May 2012, 20:56

35. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


oh please now using materials is copying lol please please just get some knowledge.thats like saying a car using tires made out of rubber is copying another car maker that uses rubber to make tires,a house is made from cement,if another house is made by cement thats copying think about thats for a second cause thats essentially what you believe ...lol PA do attract some silly people i mean seriously cant believe people that think like that exist

posted on 21 May 2012, 19:25 2

18. Glim12808 (Posts: 394; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


The Lumia 800/900 also use polycarb and people say "Beautiful"; Samsung uses the same polycarb on the SGS3 and people say "Ugly". I don't get it!

posted on 21 May 2012, 22:16

45. xtian1103 (Posts: 363; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)


because unibody cases of lumia 800/900 or n9 feels more solid than s3. you don't always (or never) drop your phone but if you do, the battery cover part will always feel the beating

posted on 21 May 2012, 19:32

20. alpinejason (Posts: 262; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)


can you say copy-cat.again.samsung does what they do best copy people.this time it was nokia instead of apple

posted on 21 May 2012, 19:40 10

23. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


What is copying here? Are manufacturers not allowed to use polycarbonate because Nokia and HTC did it already? Are they not allowed to make phones blue?

Given the right parameters, everything is a copy of something else including the devices that Nokia made or Apple or whoever you claim was being copied.

posted on 21 May 2012, 21:20 4

41. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


oh please now using materials is copying lol please please just get some knowledge.thats like saying a car using tires made out of rubber is copying another car maker that uses rubber to make tires,a house is made from cement,if another house is made by cement thats copying think about thats for a second cause thats essentially what you believe ...lol PA do attract some silly people i mean seriously cant believe people that think like that exist

posted on 21 May 2012, 20:32

27. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


see i don't really care as long as it is more durable. can the keeper of your review unit atest to this Michael? o:

i would've wished that they used something better to the touch but if it works it works.

posted on 21 May 2012, 20:38 3

28. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


i think you along with phil from androidcentral and john from technobuffallo are the only decent tech writers left that can write objectively without making personal opinions seem like facts..keep up the work,there has not been a single article of yours i have not enjoyed...lol to be honest the only reason i come on PA is for your non biased views...everyone else seems to always contradict themselves

posted on 21 May 2012, 20:56 2

34. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Thanks! always good to know what I do is appreciated

posted on 21 May 2012, 21:34

44. wendygarett (unregistered)


SHUT UP AND GIVE US THE DROP TEST!!!

posted on 21 May 2012, 22:52 2

46. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


I would like to know all the ppl so far that have used a s3?..if you have not even touch the phone yet how can you say that its "cheap" when the phone isn't even out yet...

posted on 21 May 2012, 23:09

49. tumchaaditya (Posts: 71; Member since: 21 May 2012)


you can have pretty good idea of it from pictures...
just compare pictures of a nice looking phone(e.g. iPhone or SE Xperia Arc) and S3.

posted on 21 May 2012, 23:04 2

47. Galen20K (Posts: 541; Member since: 26 Dec 2008)


Absolutely Fantastic article Michael, thank you for your insite and progressive point of view in your articles. It's definitely appreciated by people like me.

posted on 21 May 2012, 23:06

48. tumchaaditya (Posts: 71; Member since: 21 May 2012)


You cannot MAKE people think that something is nice or beautiful..
It has to come from within!!
In my opinion, its not about changing thinking..

Samsung does make their phones cheap looking.
And its not just about ordinary plastic or polycarbonate or metal or glass.
Nokia makes pretty amazing looking and feeling phones with polycarbonate(N9, Lumia 800/900) and Sony Ericsson has created quite beautiful phones using ordinary plastic in past.

Personally, I always find Samsung phones to be cheap looking/feeling(although best performing). I can even go further and say, when turned off, Galaxy S2 looks like enlarged Samsung Star(the one with Bada that's costs 1/4 of S2).
Some might argue over this but at least you have to admit that SE Xperia Arc or Nokia Lumia look and feel much better than Galaxy S2 and cost the same.

On the mechanical strength, S3 does have polycarbonate advantage but aesthetically, naah...

posted on 22 May 2012, 00:03 4

54. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


See, that's the kind of argument that I love! If you don't like the design, that's your right, and it is certainly true that Samsung doesn't have the most impressive design record. But, I truly dislike when people will bash a product simply on the basis of a misconception about the material used to build it. That's just silly.

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