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What would make a Nokia Lumia better than the Samsung Ativ S?

0. phoneArena 30 Aug 2012, 08:34 posted on

"Every great show needs a warm-up act." – that is what Nokia's Doug Dawson confidently stated on Twitter soon after Samsung announced its Windows Phone 8 powered Ativ S smartphone. Bold words indeed, for they imply that the upcoming WP8 Nokia Lumia smartphones will somehow be better than what Samsung proudly unveiled on Wednesday. But is that really possible?...

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posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:46 1

9. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


the design !! the lumia needs to has a revolutionary design...

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:47 7

10. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


if nokia calls the ativ s as a warm up, then this should be BIG.
pureview, quad-core processor maybe (just for future proofing?)

nokia spent so much on R&D, i'm thinking they have something else they're keeping... maybe a 1080p screen? a battery that lasts for weeks like old nokias?

or better....

NOKIA LUMIA PUREVIEW 3310!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:40 9

20. guildsa654 (Posts: 27; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


NOKIA LUMIA PUREVIEW 3310 FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 12:07 2

42. techsavvy.jaz (Posts: 153; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)


Nokia Lumia N-Gage PureView 3310 !!!! but honestly Nokia wants this now -->
Nokia Lumia Pureview 1100 (more than 3,00,000,00 units sold worlwide)

posted on 01 Sep 2012, 04:16

71. joseph98 (Posts: 167; Member since: 03 Feb 2012)


quad-core processor maybe (just for future proofing?)

Sorry but WP8 only support dual-core processor according to Microsoft

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:47 5

11. doejon (Posts: 398; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


samsung ativ s is way better

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:50 12

12. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


How you know , the new lumia's wasnt even launch yet

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:43 2

22. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


he used his doejon superpowers.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 13:55

46. nokianalltheway (Posts: 5; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


or perhaps asked siri or its copied counterpart in s**tsung

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 15:32 1

50. doejon (Posts: 398; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


by the way i dont like w8 ill get the note 2 windows 8 is good but i dont like the look even confuse me

sorry thats only me opinion dont i dont say that this devices arent good im only talking about myself

ah but i must admit that i hate apple but only for the patentwar and the overpriced devices

sorry for my bad english

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 15:26

48. doejon (Posts: 398; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


we will see im just talking about the specs

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 23:45

56. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


Hey sh*thole , specs isnt everything you fag
You Samsung android fanboy

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:34 1

29. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 553; Member since: 07 May 2012)


i can tell the fools by there comments, nokia haven't even launch or announced a wp8 device as yet

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 23:46

58. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


I think the Ativ S is good , but those Android Samsung Fanboy Trolls are getting on my nerves

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:40

32. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 553; Member since: 07 May 2012)


ativ s is one of the best designed phone samsung has put out in years,same old design for most of their samsung phones, take for instance galaxy series, nokia lumia 800 & 900 are much better designs

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 23:45

57. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


I salute you !

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 15:48

69. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


in what way? or you're a fanboy?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:04

15. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


Good on yas for both Nokia and Samsung going at it the old fashioned way, trying to outduel each other with good products, and little banter here and there.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:06 3

16. clarkja72 (Posts: 5; Member since: 17 Dec 2010)


The Samsung Ativ S is a beautifully designed device, but so is the Nokia Lumia 900. As a current Lumia 900(white) user, I must say, I get asked all the time, "What phone is that?", or "That's a cool phone!". I don't think Nokia will stray too far away from the Lumia design soon, as it is very different than anything else available. Nokia will definitely need to bring PureView and an awesome display to compete with the Ativ S. I'm looking forward to what they bring, as well as HTC. Let the games begin!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:41

21. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


What would make them better than SS? There is an answer. STOP f**kING ATT!!!!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:59

23. shuaibhere (Posts: 1986; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Samsung will take some time to take first place in wp manufacturers....but sure it will be in commanding position in near future......

Samsung takes time and makes thing for sure.......

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:06

25. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)


Don't know how long Nokia is gonna exist... Sammy will exist (considering it's the No1 smartphone OEM) thanks to Android...

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:42 1

34. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


samsung got famous only and only because of android remove that whats left nothing.... nokia is not precived like that if wp8 is success nokia will take more market here samsung cannot get that much fame samsung is cool in android and not all the countries nokia is a different story

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 16:11 2

53. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Don't forget that Nokia only just recently lost its top-seller-by-volume to Samsung, and could easily reclaim it. Not only that, Nokia could survive just off of royalties (and its R&D if they wanted), it doesn't have to make phones to survive

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:11 3

26. Veigald (Posts: 290; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)


Design-wise, Samsung cannot hold a candle to Nokia. Samsung has probably never sold a single phone due to good design, while Nokia has sold millions. And the situation has been pretty much the opposite on specs. But seeing that specs in the WP8 world matters so much less than it does for Android, design is that more important.

That said, the Ativ looks better than most Samsungs, and even employs premium materials rather than the cheap plastic Samsung is best known for. So it'll be close :)

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 16:37

54. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


I would agree, but only in terms of "good" design. They've made a name for themselves having "unique" designs (Note/Note2, Juke, SPH-A960, N270 and V4400, SGH-F200, E910, Z130, Z700, X900 and P400, SCH-B100 and A970) albeit many similar in concept/execution as contemporary models from other OEMs, namely Nokia. Very experimental, some quite whacky, but definitely unique. That said, some of my friends had some of the earlier models, and I remember most of them breaking within a few weeks of ownership, and typically the feature which made it unique (multi-way hinge, some goofy lighting, etc) was what broke first. Not anymore, thankfully.

Side note: going through all the phones in Samsung's history on this site, it's evident there were rectangular phones with rounded corners well before the iphone. Samsung should print those pages out and present them in their appeals

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:38

30. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


well even without PV nokia standout samsung cant beat their superb quality i had my experence on both nokia wins quality and long lasting

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:40 1

31. brucewayne (Posts: 29; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)


does WP8 support quad core?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:43

35. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


yes is goes to all the way to 64 coes i think but we stick to quad here at the moment

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:42

33. brucewayne (Posts: 29; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)


on common platform, samsung cant beat nokia...if only nokia had a flagship on android, it'd sell millions..just one phone can do it..like it does for iphone..you dont need umpteen variants..

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