What will a "Retina" display mean for the iPad mini 2?
Does Retina even mean anything?
Apple's fragmentation of screens
The problems of a Retina iPad mini
1. Kurai (unregistered)
it will have more pixels, and apple will call it resolutionary. . . !
12. Shatter (Posts: 2030; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Retina is garbage on the phone market, it will be garbage as android tablets switch to 2k displays and apple stays at their current resume.
37. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
Lol exactly. Iphone is only getting away with a nice looking screen because it's so small of course they can pack a lot of pixels on it. I wish Apple would make a 4.8 inch iphone with a 640P screen and call it revolutionary.
67. MobileKicker (Posts: 212; Member since: 19 Sep 2013)
You are all fools
Retina is brighter than any display
The display on my sgs4 is garbage
Means super amoled is garbage
18. jonatankarter (Posts: 5; Member since: 21 Dec 2011)
Jaja! I see what you did there. Very clever indeed!
68. MobileKicker (Posts: 212; Member since: 19 Sep 2013)
This is just your 3rd post dude calm down
21. akki20892 (Posts: 3571; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
What will a "Retina" display mean for the iPad mini 2?
22. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1328; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Pretty much. I don't even remember the last time I give 2 sh*t about my HDTV's image haha
27. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
This article states that the s4 is the PPI leader. Wrong! The HTC one is.
And I bet my 2013 n7 will have a higher PPI than the iPad mini 2.
53. Caralho (Posts: 119; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)
It will mean an obscenely high price point...
58. underbc (Posts: 22; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
something truly new ..
because they pixels are different of other any pixels .. something that will change the world ..
it's gonna be the NEW RETINA
2. Eonnaydra (Posts: 209; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
The display is not just about the number of PPI,it is about many other things like brightness,color calibration where the Apple's lcds are the best.
C'mon Apple,just release the iPad Mini with A7X and Retina.
5. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8717; Member since: 14 May 2012)
iPad Mini 2 will definitely not have a A7X chip I can guarantee you that. The iPad 4/5 sales will be cannibalized if they did.
52. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Because of the smaller screen, the mini doesn't need all that horsepower; however, it would be nice to futureproof the device with a 64-bit processor.
I have the mini and iPad 2 and I use them differently; for gaming, I like the larger screen; however for daily use, the smaller and lighter mini is the go to machine. That may all change with the new iPad.
57. grahaman27 (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Read the article- it would if it used a retina display.
60. DaHarder (Posts: 171; Member since: 10 Oct 2009)
Enough With This "Future Proofing' Nonsense.
The ONLY way that buying an Apple device currently utilizing the A7 SoC would be 'future proof' is if there was some way to add RAM to the device at a later date, which is simply NOT possible.
Apple's use of 64bit architecture at this point is primarily for bragging rights/marketing to the ignorant as it offers little-to-no performance benefits on their curent iOS lineup, none of which have more than 1gb RAM.
As for the iPad Mini, which currently has but 512mb RAM, its positioning within Apple's product hierarchy essentially assures that it will NOT feature the A7 SoC... More likely would be the A6/A6x, which (at the time of its announcement last year) was also touted as being 'future proof'. *rolls eyes*
Additionally: It can also be expected that the current iPad Mini, which uses the iPad 2 A5 SoC with 512mb of RAM, will not even be hardware compatible with next year's iOS 8, meaning that its update lifespan wasn't even 2 years... That's some seriously premature obsolescence.
62. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 1180; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Arguments that the 64-bit A7 SoC is just a marketing gimmick is for the ignorant who only understand what shallow tech sites tell them. Even Qualcomm has come out and corrected their marketing director. Addressable RAM is hardly the "Be All, End All" of 64-bit OSes.
As for your predictions, I'm guessing that they are somewhere in the neighborhood of the boasts of the Kim Dynasty of North Korea: Guesses with no basis in reality.
7. NexusPhan (Posts: 511; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
I hate the retina term. PA stop spewing Apple's garbage and do some research please. Stop the lies.
16. Shatter (Posts: 2030; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Retina on the iphone is a fail because they stopped updating it.
Iphone 5, 5C and 5S: 1136x640 or 727040 pixels.
Any phone 5" android flagship since around this time last year has been 1920x1080 which is 2073600 pixels or 440ppi on a 5" display. If the iphone was keeping up with screen technology and was 1080p it would have 550PPI.
The only reason the iphone wins in onscreen graphics test compared to a snapdragon 800 is because android phones are pushing 2.85x more pixels which on a PC game would be around half the FPS on the same setup.
3. Atlas (Posts: 158; Member since: 15 Apr 2012)
Absolutely nothing, besides to sell it to the people who think retina display means something nowadays.
33. bucky (Posts: 1515; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
Kinda the same way octa core and 5" 1080p phone screens, huh?
4. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Looking beyond the Retina name and simply referring to high res. screens, I'd vote yes for the Mini having one. If people can get used to high res. screens on phones, and iOS runs the same on phones and tablets, why not? Developers need to get out of their comfort zones and step up to the new standards, there's plenty of money to be made by doing so.
6. fistigons (Posts: 263; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
I am going to be poor this holiday season. iPad mini 2 for my wife. Nexus 5 for me. Need a new laptop maybe a gaming one. I would love to get a windows tablet but I'm going to hold off on that because nothing is out that impresses me. Though dell does have some upcoming 8.1 tablets that are pretty close to what I want.
8. joaolx (Posts: 356; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
The usability problem is not a good argument. When the iPad 3 came out with the Retina display the pixel density doubled but the UI stayed the same. Nothing got smaller with Retina in iOS. Why would that change? btw the HTC One is the device with the highest ppi to date with 468ppi and not the SGS4 441ppi.
10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8717; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Nope. Web browsing on the iPad 3/4 is substantially different than on the iPad 2. And the current leader in PPI is 492 or 493, a phone that was announced last week.
9. 90ninjas (Posts: 100; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)
I like that they completely glossed over the fact that the HTC One is a popular device that has a pixel density of 468. Good job Phone Arena.
14. Taters (Posts: 3291; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Probably because suck T C sucks and nonoine really gives a crap about it besides some websites run by Samsung haters and HTC fans.
Most articles cater to people that know HTC sucks so they can safely leave them out of every and all conversations.
45. Taters (Posts: 3291; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
It means HTC is a non factor. If a phone with a higher PPI existed only in Japan or China than the HTC One, which it probably does, no one would care or report it as the leader.
Suck T C(HTC) makes garbage products and is not worth mentioning in any article so it is not. So they use the next highest that doesn't suck and actually matters, which would be the GS4.
47. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8717; Member since: 14 May 2012)
HTC One sold well over 5 million devices, and that was before Q3 ended...
13. Taters (Posts: 3291; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
They will just rehash the same mini screen. They rehash everything including the iPad 1 screen on the iPad 2. Apple's number one priority has always been profit margins at the expense of the consumer, carriers, stores etc(basically everyone else except them). Would Apple rip off the ifans again by not providing a retina display yet? You better believe it. The iPhone 5c is a perfect example. Rather than give you the iPhone 5 for a lower price, they have to rip you off somehow. By either cutting the memory down to 8gb or by using an easier to manufacture body.
IPad 2 used the same screen as the iPad 1. iPad 5 and iPad 4 will use the same screen as the iPad 3. Iphone 4s used the same screen as the iPhone 4. IPhone 5s used the same screen as the iphone 5/5c.
Foolish itards. Do you really think Apple will give you a retina mini when they can rehash the same screen and make just as much money at your expense?
15. ddeath (Posts: 163; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)
Seriously the name 'Retina' display is getting old, very old. I roll my eyes whenever someone talks about their retina display iphones or ipads, thinking the screens have the best resolutions in the world when there are lots of phones and tablets out there with higher density HD screens.
25. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8717; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Haha I get it, because the screen is sm... Let me not finish the sentence before I get a warning.
26. willard12 (Posts: 832; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Just like the term "retina," apple has described the fact that you have to purchase a second app for another device as the app being "optimized." Now, people get excited about how many "optimized" apps apple has when the description should be "fragmentation."
66. iampayne (Posts: 243; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
No fragmentation happens when it comes to the same devices. Phones and Tablets, being closely related, are different products. People criticize Android fragmentation because you have products in the same class, phones, running different OS's even if they are lauched at the same time. If you buy a brand new iDevice or Windows phone today it will be running iOS7 or WP8, same cannot be said for Android because there are only a few phones even running 4.3.
31. mr.techdude (Posts: 551; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
I know what what retina would do to ipoo Minni 2, GIMMI ALL UR CASH (x2 the current Minni price) because we are apple and u r my brainwashed customer. Lol
48. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8717; Member since: 14 May 2012)
iPad 3 had the same price as the iPad 2. Same goes for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4...
54. Taters (Posts: 3291; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
They already recouped those costs hundred fold by reusing the iPad 1 screen on the iPad 2. They couldn't justify increasing the price.
This is a different story though because this would be the very first time that they jumped to a retina display before the low rez display one more time. And considering the iPhone went from 649 to 699 to 719 in Canada for really minor jumps in improvements, imagine how much the biggest jump in Apple history will cost the consumer?
That said I still think Apple might rehash the crap out of this and the retina mini wont happen yet. It will probably still be the same res as the current mini with an A6 instead of an A5 and touch id. But that's it.
Another reason to think this isn't happening is that Samsung, LG, JDI, Sharp etc don't even have an 8 inch 2048 X 1536 display yet at any of the display shows.
Closest one is LG's full HD 8.3 incher and we all know that doesn't fit Apple's resolution scaling.
35. jacko1977 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
its not a retina screen a retina screen is about 470ppi not 326ppi i dont care about how far away u are a inch is a inch coz steve headjob says its a retina screen everyone believes it
43. erikiksaz (Posts: 124; Member since: 22 Apr 2010)
This will be great. A high demand and low supply ipad mini means that I will scoop up as many as I can to sell to desperate, impatient ipad idiots.
44. LDC207X (Posts: 22; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
How come the htc one wasn't mentioned? It's ppi is 468. But I guess I live in a world where 468 is lower then 441.
46. Taters (Posts: 3291; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Probably because HTC sucks and no one bothers comparing their garbage devices with any other devices. One test and you know how bad their products are and why they are bleeding money.
51. Trismegistus (Posts: 32; Member since: 21 Aug 2013)
I guess that I should take the word of Random Internet Guy over all of the positive reviews, huh?
55. Taters (Posts: 3291; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
In this case yes. I have tested then models that they actually ship to consumers not the cherry picked models they pick out of a thousand handsets to send to reviewers. HTC has the worse quality control ever and you wont see that in the reviews.
You have to go to places like XDA developers forums to discover these truths.
56. Trismegistus (Posts: 32; Member since: 21 Aug 2013)
Levar, excuse me if I don't take your word for it.
59. robocopvn (Posts: 189; Member since: 10 Mar 2010)
I do realize the different between Iphone4s, 5 and full HD android phones. Do I have good eyes, or the Apples retina is worse than mine ? :D
61. jeevan28111992 (Posts: 23; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
The Current Leader In ppi is HTC One With 460+ Correct it PA!!!
63. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8717; Member since: 14 May 2012)
No it's not. It's a Chinese smartphone with 492 or 493ppi.
64. saenaedewe (Posts: 62; Member since: 01 May 2013)
will mean nothing compare to NEXUS 7 Display..
69. HarryWild (Posts: 40; Member since: 18 Oct 2012)
Will not buy if it is not an iPad Mini Retina with A7X, 4GB RAM, M7, 802.11 ac, IGZO display, dual flash.