What do you dislike about the Galaxy S4?
0. phoneArena 12 Apr 2013, 09:37 posted on
Ah, the Galaxy S4! It's definitely one of the very best Android smartphones around, and yet, we're sure that there a a good number of people out there who hate it. By the way, there's a lot people who also hate us, but that's because of our money. Anyway, the Galaxy S4 sure has its enemies, but why? What could be wrong this seemingly perfect Android smartphone? Hm, when you think about it, there are some things that can irritate some users. How about the cheap-feeling plastic? You buy an expensive gadget and it suddenly feels like your 5 year-old son's toy-phone...
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47. magnanimus (Posts: 291; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
But seriously, why do you hate the phone?
78. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
aww mate dont try this again, you tried to pin me to a phone last time and failed.
i dont hate a phone, i hate how these fanboys hate any criticism towards samsung and the fact they think samsung are now gods gift to phones i.e. your comment about it been perfect......stupid comment really
so yeah dont have the phone, find me a comment where ive said i hate the s4
108. magnanimus (Posts: 291; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
I'm not trying to pin you to a phone smart ass. And I meant its perfect for me not the world
57. Aeires (unregistered)
So you don't believe a device can be perfect for someone? That's a sad take on things, some devices fit every need a person has and CAN be called perfect for them.
60. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
no a device can be perfect to a certain person but please we all kno he stated it as perfection amongst everything, he even admitted he's been a fanboy with his comment
thanks for jumping on me though and blindly ignoring such a fanboy comment like his
nice try acting as though your reasonable too always the same on here
64. Aeires (unregistered)
So you also think people can only post comments of one type. Nice little view of the world you have, no wonder so many people jump on you.
69. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
ohh wow you really only read what you want, dont actually read what ive commented
plus the fact he admitted he's been a fanboy has proven you wrong on your point. so any comment on that? quick before the regulars come to team up on one person as they need to lmao
and only the fanboys and people like you jump on me, you only see a problem with those who havent bigged up android or sasmung
perfect is subjective to the person, his comment was general and he was classing it as perfect overall for everyone a false and fanboy comment, i point this out you try to defend a fanboy comment .....you seeing the problem?
77. Aeires (unregistered)
What I do see is someone getting jumped on, Magnanimus, by you. He commented what he felt and you started a comment war. So what is your problem? Can't let people have their opinions? It doesn't matter if he's a Samsung fan or not, his comment wasn't negative but you flamed him.
Next time be the adult and ignore comments if you feel they're just fanboy praise.
85. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
look ive seen your type before and bored of your kind
only reasonable to your fellow android users, so tell me im jumping on fanboy maggy yet you dont know we had a discussion like this before and you came jumping in to cheer him on
so actually your the problem this time as you came into something you didnt need to and blew it up
but you keep trying to take the moral high ground if it makes you feel better...ohh and the ones thumbing down need a life
112. magnanimus (Posts: 291; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
I love arguing with you dude. It's always so funny 'the ones thumbing down need a life'. Btw, Samsung fans have every right to think its the best phone. B'cus really, the phone beats every other phone out there, and talking about design, which other high-end phone has been able to fit a 5' screen into a case as compact as the S4? So yeah, they used plastic, but look at the reasons why.
They used plastic so it will be easy to replace battery and repair. Look at the Htc One that uses aluminium, you can remove the battery and its the hardest phone to repair so far
Also. Look at weight mate. It's really light
119. shuaibhere (Posts: 1428; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Being a fan of something is nothing wrong....
We all have our own likes and dislikes...
You talk too much about android fan boys bashing others....
But you do the same thing....
Every product has fair share of blind fan boys. Be it android, ios, wp, samsung, nokia,ms, google..
It's just that android has large user base....so it seems to be a big thing to you....
I hope you understand...
96. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Sure, perfection is subjective but bashing someone on his preferences because they don't fit yours is just pathetic.
The GSIV may not be perfect but if you take into account all the specs/features/performances it has to offer compared to its rivals, it is in fact the most advanced smartphone out there. Any sane, unbiased and neutral person will come to the same conclusion.
Not wonder why it received the best score, 9.3, from PA and the title of the best smartphone from GSMArena("With the sheer number of excellent flagships to choose from, if you are looking for the best smartphone, you had it better than ever."http://www.gsmarena.com/samsun
Again, if you don't agree, then prove me wrong! Well if you can.. =]
But based on your past comments, AD HOMINEM COMING!! HAHA
106. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5404; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Every devices are perfect, it just depends how you think of it.
I can say that the Galaxy S4 is perfect because of the cool features.
I can say that the Xperia Z is perfect because of the gorgeous design and premium feeling.
I can say that the HTC One is perfect because of the gorgeous design, premium feeling and Ultrapixels.
Every devices are perfect!
107. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5404; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Oh, and one more thing, Samsung, you need to change the design!
114. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5404; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
(Oops......the comment above (#107) is a mistake, I accidentally clicked the reply button.)
30. nexusalltheway (Posts: 69; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
like u said Ray, there will be hatters no matter what. Me, personally, Love S4. Its a best android device made so far!!
31. phljcnth (Posts: 265; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
I dislike the fact that I'm going to have this along with 100 million others.
32. magnanimus (Posts: 291; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
People keep calling the material cheap plastic. Its not like the plastic is plastic used in toys. Its freaking polycarbonate. (Same material used in the nokia 920)
58. Aeires (unregistered)
Plastic = new catch phrase that replaced Lag, Fragmentation, DOA, and all the other stupid, follow the herd mentality comments.
People use plastic every day without a problem. Put it on a phone and the haters show their ignorance.
63. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
i think people actually dont like cheap plastic and cheap looking phones
also talking of herd mentality would be samsung fans throwing the sales comment on everyone who says anything against samsung
besides this article is about what people dislike and even android users say the plastic and design, its not hating its pointing out the obvious
67. Aeires (unregistered)
IMO, the overwhelming plastic comments are from Android haters. People who actually own this phone don't make such comments. I've seen the same negative comments from the S2 and GNex. After owning both of them, I disagree with them feeling cheap. Neither felt or looked cheap.
74. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
well id disagree about the s2, it doesnt feel cheap. but the s3 does. as for the s4 you have to admit its a cheap looking phone.....
and no its not just from android haters, your generalising with no basis besides most on here are android lovers (some to stupid levels)
maybe just maybe people are bored of samsung not bringing out a gorgeous design with premium build and feel...it is a flagship and expensive phone
80. magnanimus (Posts: 291; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
Did anyone ever complain about the plastic on the nokia lumia 920? NOOOO! Its samsung they all focus on. I dont really get some people
88. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
again the difference for people is samsung looks and in some cases feel cheap, plus the 920 has excellent build quality ........samsung not so much
is it wrong for people to state they want samsung to focus on there build quality and design? cant anything be said to samsung other then mindless praise
120. magnanimus (Posts: 291; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
I never said Samsung had the best design out there. But u make it sound like the design is so sub-par. It's really not. The design might be monotonous (you have every reason to hate it for that) but the material is polycarbonate with metal chrome on the side. It feels better than the S3 if that makes it simpler to comprehend
90. magnanimus (Posts: 291; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
Thats some good point dude. People just look for useless reasons to hate on an obviously good phone
102. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
ive never said the s4 isnt a good phone, although idiots like sleepingoz loves to jump at defending them and butting in for no reason
heres my view on the s4 - excellent specs with amazing performance overall all in a uninspired design and average build quality
111. SleepingOz (unregistered)
AD HOMINEM LIKE ALWAYS! I knew it! HAHAHAHAHAHA
Again, being unable to argue with me with valid arguments, you try to bash me instead. I can clearly see your frustration through this comment. LMAO!
But based on your inability to bring valid arguments, you're the idiot here. =]
152. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 819; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Wait, you said he bashed you because of the lack of arguments, IMO, what you said wasn't an argument either, and you also bashed him. You should look at a mirror mate.
194. SleepingOz (unregistered)
"The GSIV may not be perfect but if you take into account all the specs/features/performances it has to offer compared to its rivals, it is in fact the most advanced smartphone out there. Any sane, unbiased and neutral person will come to the same conclusion.
Not wonder why it received the best score, 9.3, from PA and the title of the best smartphone from GSMArena("With the sheer number of excellent flagships to choose from, if you are looking for the best smartphone, you had it better than ever."http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4-review-914p12.php )."
What is this then?
You must be blind, right? Or may be just a lil butthurt since you're a well-known HTC fanboy. =]
293. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 819; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
If i'm a known HTC fanboy then you must be an Samsung a** kisser, like i said above you should look at a mirror sometimes mate.
233. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
yeah but nokia 920 have better construction
34. Muzhhur (Posts: 245; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
They think are the best
Just Cheap plastic
Its more like Mr Satan
118. XperiaUser (unregistered)
definitely Brand :D
i hate "Sam-suck"
35. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)
Only 2 concerns... 1- Poor build (plastic can be good be sammy should have used some nicer plastic)
its way expensive than S3 was!
49. magnanimus (Posts: 291; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
What other plastic is better than polycarbonate? Do you want it to be the same price as the S3?
155. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 819; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Thicker, stronger polycarbonate? IMO, Samsung makes the back cover too thin, my sister's S2 has a hairline crack on the back cover just from normal use, it is always on a case..
Also, yes it should be the same price as the S3, Samsung is getting greedy just like Apple, think about it Galaxy S was 500 euros in my country when it came out, Galaxy S2 also was 500, all of a sudden 600 euros for the S3, and if it does increase the price it is a confirmation that Samsung = Apple.
208. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Poor build? its polycarbonate not plastic. Quit believing what you read on the internet (irony) it is a very well built phone. Much better than the s3.
296. TMach (Posts: 354; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
Yes, poor build quality and the main reason I will pass on the S4, the other is Samsung itself because of its poor customer support/service. Had the S3, cracked by the charger port, Samsung denied any responsibility (remember the featured article on PA which ran for weeks? Yes, that was mine). S4 follows same design, look and feel so it is a PASS for me. If Samsung had stepped up and taken responsibility, I would be willing to take the chance but definitely not now, after my experiences! Once bitten twice shy, I guess. And yes, the hyperglaze makes it look cheap as opposed to polycarbonate as used in the HTC One X+ which was "plastic" but felt premium.
37. Diego! (Posts: 504; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)
Nothing, it's perfect!!! *gets loads of thumbs down* LOL xD
38. jdot104 (Posts: 47; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)
Design is important to me and the GS4's isn't great. Not just the materials. The design of the phone is bland.
39. Cha7520 (Posts: 210; Member since: 31 Oct 2010)
Get rid of the Pentile Matrix arrangement!!!!
220. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Its 1080p the disadvantages of Pentile are long gone.
42. roscuthiii (Posts: 1801; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
I don't mind the plastic body - it serves it's purpose - so, it'd have to be Touchwiz. I just really really don't like Touchwiz. At all.
43. XperiaPrince (Posts: 108; Member since: 25 Dec 2012)
CHEEEAPPP PPLLAAASSSTIIIICC!!! I dont hate plastic but their plastic feels cheap and thin. And the unchanged design im so sick of it. Otherwise its a greatphone
44. XperiaPrince (Posts: 108; Member since: 25 Dec 2012)
And the cartoonish,heavy,laggy and BLOATWARES Loaded touchwiz. TOUCHWIZ IS TOO UGLY
45. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
The dotted visual pattern on the plastic..it's hideous and a huge step back compared to the striped, natural surface-mimicking pattern on the S3.
That design has zero inspiration
48. amats69 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
the built Quality and BOOOOOORRRRRRIIIINNNNGGGG design! plus the ugly UI!
50. nadarbsm (Posts: 24; Member since: 22 Feb 2013)
well.. i miss the Optical Disk reader/writer.. :( :( :(
51. nicholassss (Posts: 348; Member since: 10 May 2012)
The s4 is to the s3 what I iphone 5 was to the iphone 4. A hefty upgrade internally, with little to no restyling with the exception of a slight size difference.
52. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
no one can deny the internals are top notch but samsungs laxed approach to design and build quality isnt good.im all for unified product lines but the s3 isnt a design classic they really need some inspiration in that area.
samsungs story-excellent specs wrapped in an after thought design
103. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
What makes you say the build quality is not good..are you basing it on because its plastic because build quality isn't necessarily choice of material but how its put together and from most of the hands on reviews I have read and watched all have said yh it may feel cheap but the actual phone is put together well with no signs of creaks etc...same was said about the s3 but my s3 to this day has no scratches and no creaks to suggest it was poorly built...as for design yh it don't stand out but that's fine with me and am sure it will be with others.
129. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
im not actually bashing it, bashing it would be saying things like ''the phones crap and so cheap''etc
taking the s3 as an example it sounds like you had a good device but ive handled ones that creaked when you held it. it never felt like a quality product either and im sure i will be thumbed down by the usual few but it felt abit toy-ish
all im saying is samsung half ass there design and build quality and for the price of flagship phones you would expect to have every detail well looked into.
plus its not the fact the s4 doesnt stand out its just the design isnt up to other flagships and samsung should look at stepping away from the s3's design
137. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Don't worry didn't think you were bashing it we all have our opinion on what feels nice or not.. I agree the glossy plastic does make the s3 and s4 etc look cheao(I wish they went with matte plastic or like the nexus 7 rubberised plastic) but I feel just like the s2 I had and the current s3 I have the devices are actually "screwed" together well... Now I also believe that you did handle a s3 as early on there were reports of little cracks on creaks on some devices but that's expected when you are selling in the millions that there will be some bad batches just like how some iPhone had scratches out the box or home buttons were not responsive... On the design point most company's have there own design style now, all Samsungs looks the same, all of Nokia lumia devices have looked the same, all Iphones looks same etc so I don't think it's just Samsung that keeping there design similar and the reason most likely is to do with brand recognition so when someone sees device x they know it's by company x... I think why people notice it more with Samsung is that they release many more phones than others so we constantly seeing the same design.. Seriously look at most phones from Oems and you will see that nearly all devices look similar... Like I said earlier look at the all the lumias and tell me they don't look pretty much same in the way the s4 looks like s3.
151. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
ohh im sure samsung did address the creaky issue but like you said the glossy plastic isnt a good look. the s3 is a great device no doubt and the s4 will build on that (just wish the damn fanboys would dissapear there acting like the apple trolls)
as for design your right all companies get comfortable with a certain design and then most of the time mutilate it and use it till it looks tired. all companies do this i know. but the problem i have is the s3 isnt attractive compared to others. the lumia range based on the n9 design is a excellent design, apples iphone no matter how many senslessly hate it is iconic and prime example of excellent design thats become tired thanks to a company.
but samsung needs to do better imo for there range.
ohh and to the fanboys (i know who you are btw so pathetic) thumbing down how about you add something of worth to the discussion or dissapear im sure your bed times soon
171. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Lol wouldn't it be nice if all blind fan boys/girls did dissappear... There's nothing wrong with being a fan boy but can't stand the ones that are too defensive and can't see no wrong in there chosen company or device... No one can argue about the design of all apples product and how good they feel(though quite fragile) and anyone that disagrees are just haters... And wouldn't mind if saying did add a bit of metal in there phone too.. I think I said already I don't really think the look of the s3 or s4 is bad and Imo the lumia devices are more bland ie too me they just look boring especially the black one but the colored ones look Ok... End of the day design is all personal and subjective, what one person might think looks great another will think it's awful.. Anyways nice to know there are people on PA that are capable of having a decent discussion without going on a fan boy rant.
209. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
well thats basically the point, design is subjective. theres always common ground but in the end you like what you like. i prefer the look of the lumia and the size as ive always liked thicker phones that feel sturdier never got into thin phones. you say you find them bland i aint gonna say your wrong etc because its all about preferences and what the individual likes
this has to be one of the only discussions ive had where no fanboys have butted in, they really hate me lmao but least as you said there are afew subjective people on here