We'll be live at HTC's February 19 event, come along for the One and the Ultrapixels!
0. phoneArena 15 Feb 2013, 09:41 posted on
Just a reminder, folks, that we'll be covering live HTC's awaited February 19 event in New York City. We are expecting to see the long-rumored HTC One announced, and an Ultrapixel or three should be making a cameo, so tune in at 10am Eastern/7am Pacific for the festivities...
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1. p5yb0rg (unregistered)
How about SD Card or Battery size? Those are critical factors when choosing between phones.
6. Igneel (unregistered)
HTC tends to forget about them though. Let's just hope they won't spoil this flagship :P
10. MikeG77 (Posts: 379; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
If the battery is 3000 mah or more then there is no need for it in my opinion BUT it would'nt hurt to have the option.
44. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
sometimes a device crashes that a battery pull is necessary but agree if it has 3000+ then i think people will be fine
8. darkskoliro (Posts: 1060; Member since: 07 May 2012)
HTC admitted sd card is important, and implemented it in their flagship butterfly. But hell I prefer 64gb internal over sd card anyway. And id be okay with non removable if it lasts a whole day with moderate/heavy use, but most preferably waterproof if it already is non removable!!!
9. MikeG77 (Posts: 379; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
I've been saying that for weeks that the phone can have all the best specs in the world but if the battery life sucks (which HTC has been notorious for) and there is no SD card slot the phone will not do as well as it should.
If they give me a 2500/3000 mah battery with and SD card slot or the option for 32 gb or 64 gb internal space im sold. If not i guess i have to place my hopes in the X or the S IV.
13. techtruth (Posts: 30; Member since: 07 Feb 2013)
this is just dna with improved camera.. that's it!! hope i'm wrong
14. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)
well the DNA was already a pretty good phone. I don't see why they need to change something that was already extremely good
21. shirtlessrabbit4 (Posts: 40; Member since: 07 Oct 2012)
Well....... theres sense 5, better pixel density, and hopefully better battery and sd card slot. Soooooooo........ a bit more than the camera will improve
46. AamirSIII (banned) (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)
the most important thing when chosing a phone for me is,
4- Battery life
2. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Maybe someone know, if there will be an live video stream?
41. bayusuputra (Posts: 961; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
yes, some HTC Elevate members get to see them live.
4. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Why do we don't need such high PPI ?
16. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
I phone makers would have said things like that then we would still be carrying around huge candybar phones.
42. bayusuputra (Posts: 961; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
because it's better to look at well printed magazines than newspapers.
5. rizevnarastek (Posts: 338; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
Between the SoLux display, S4 Pro and Sense 5 I think the battery should manage a normal day of moderate to heavy use. Stereo front facing speakers, UltraPixel camera and probably the touch-sound technology for calls ;) they have been hinting to it on their blog.
11. Slammer (Posts: 1417; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
As a voice for us PhoneArena users, I hope Micheal H and his team, are able to ask HTC what their plans are for removeable batteries and SD slots. This greatly affects my decision in continuing to be a customer of them. I also bring this forward in response from fellow constituents.
No SD Slots, no removeable batteries equals no more HTC purchases.
15. MikeG77 (Posts: 379; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
I agree that those are major concerns that need to be addressed. If HTC gives me a very large built in battery AND and SD card slot im good. If no SD card then i should have the choice for a 32gb/64gb option or higher.
I think HTC needs to realize that they are really screwing over there customer base and have no legitimate exscuse as other manufacturers like Motorola can make a phone smaller then the DNA with a large batter and sd slot.
19. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4174; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
HTC already put an SD card slot in their flagship (Butterfly), just when it went to the US, Verizon took it out. As for battery, as long as it's big and can be easily replaced, you'll be fine; it won't be as easy as just popping off the back, you might need to unscrew some things, but that's not too difficult. I would rather have a solidly built handset than one with a removable battery.
23. MikeG77 (Posts: 379; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
Yes your right the DNA did not have an SD Card slot which at this point was probably Verizons decision. If they install a large battery like the Maxx its no big deal. The average smartphone user is not going to be removing a BUILT IN BATTERY as it will void the terms of the warranty on there $600/$800 smartphone. So no that is not a good option for most people.
I want a well built HTC device that has all the specs they have published plus an SD Card slot and a large internal battery like the Maxx HD or Note 2. Thats not much to ask for when im dropping $700 for a phone.
Oh and a phone can be solidly built even with a removeable battery it just ends up being a little bit larger than having a built in battery : )
24. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4174; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
True, the average user won't replace a built in battery, but it's still an option if your battery dies on you (as in won't charge/hold a charge) and you don't want to replace the whole phone.
Don't get your hopes up for a Note II/Razr Maxx sized battery. The Note II only got a 3,100 mAh battery due to its huge size, and I believe the Maxx only got its battery in such a small package due to a special process that Motorola has patented, correct me if I'm wrong though. I expect no more than 2,500 mAh from all the flagships of this year that aren't huge in size or made by Motorola.
I have never seen or owned a solidly built handset with a removable battery. There's always some form of creaking in the back plate or around the edges.
I think the only devices I've owned with a removable battery that felt very solid were the HTC Amaze and Sensation; leave it to HTC to make a device beautifully crafted and still have removable battery. Any other device there's creaking on the back plate and around the edges, and whenever you drop it the back comes flying off...
But HTC definitely isn't going to gives this device a removable battery, I can guarantee that. SD card, maybe. If they don't fit it with an SD card they'll give it at least 32 GB of storage, probably 64 GB (like with the One X+).
26. MikeG77 (Posts: 379; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
Yes it is an option but not a good one for 95% of the consumers who use a smartphone. I would rather get it replaced, buy a new phone and then sell the old device. I'm also not concerned as i updrade once a yr so i've been fortunate not to have any battery issues.
I'm not getting my hopes up in regards to the battery as HTC has a really bad knack for having too small of a battery in there devices. I dont think Motorola has the process patented as another company just released a device with a 4000 mah built in battery.
The HTC phones ive had that are solidly built were the Thunderbolt and the Touch Pro 2 everything else from them and Samsung feel too lite and cheap. Once you start using a lot of plastic that will happen.
If HTC releases this device with either no removeable battery/not a large internal one and no SD slot with out storage options this phone will be DOA especially with the X, S4 and Note 3 being announced.
I hope i'm wrong and HTC learned there lesson but some how i feel we are all going to be disappointed to some degree.
27. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4174; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Can you get it replaced then sell it? When I had my GS2 replaced they made me send it back and just gave me a new one.
They have relatively small batteries, but they have pretty outstanding standby time which more or less makes up for the sub-par on screen time. I wouldn't doubt that another company did make a battery that big in their device, but how thick/big is it? Also, how well known is the company? Smaller companies tend to use patented material for their products because they are much less likely to get sued than a direct competitor to Motorola.
The Sensation is a bit on the lighter side, but the Amaze and the Thunderbolt weigh about the same. The Amaze actually has quite a bit of aluminum on it, and it's probably the best built phone I have ever had the pleasure of holding; the design is sleek, the aluminum feels nice and cool to the touch after it's been sitting in the open for a while, there's no creaking whatsoever, and it's amazingly sturdy (no pun intended). If I could go back to any device I had, it would be the Amaze, my GS2 just feels way too light and cheap.
HTC could get away with a 2,300 mAh battery with their fantastic standby time and their new Sense 5.0 interface that's supposed to be much lighter and less resource heavy. Also with the new power saving chips out there, it could be a possibility. If they don't have an SD card in the One, they're probably going to put at LEAST 32 GB on board, with a 64 GB option. They've been putting more thought into storage with their latest devices; the One X+ launched with 64 GB of storage, and the Butterfly had a SD slot.
29. MikeG77 (Posts: 379; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
I think it was ZTE or Lenovo but i can't remember. I got my Thunderbolt replaced CLN but it died so i asked Verizon to send me a GS 3. Luckily i had a Nexus so i sold the GS 3 and recouped some of my loss.
Yes the Amaze is sturdy but its also machined out of a block of aluminum so its going to be sturdy in comparison to a phone with a lot of plastic like the GS3.
In regards to the battery i dont think its a good idea to just get away with the bare minimum especially with how some of us use our devices. If they give me an option for larger internal memory then im good 32gb at the least and a good battery im happy.
30. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4174; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
You mean the ZTE Optic? I think that's what it was called. It was released in 2012 and was a 7 inch tablet, 4,000 mAh is a standard for tablets that size.
I know it was a block of machined aluminum, I wish all devices with a removable battery were. Sure, it's more expensive and produces more waste, but it's so gosh darn good lookin'.
By "get away with", I didn't mean the bare minimum. I meant it as in, with all of these new battery enhancements that will probably be in the One; new non-resource heavy UI, new power saving processor, power efficient display, and a bigger battery, I think you can be certain there will be pretty great battery life with the One.
36. MikeG77 (Posts: 379; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
It was the Huawei Ascends Mate. 6.1 inch display with a 4000 may battery.
37. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4174; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Well of course, it's absolutely huge. Not too far off from a 7 inch tablet. It is a huge battery, but to condense it into a such a small device in comparison like the Maxx (HD) is a real feat; I know the current Maxx battery is 3,300 mAh, but imagine how big of a battery Motorola could fit in such a huge device.
31. leekielowe (Posts: 7; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
I agree. I hope HTC has an ear toward listening to the consumer. I fell in love with the Droid DNA. 1st class display, 1st class build quality but the subpar battery life forced me to go with the Note 2 instead. Nowadays, a full day of heave usage is welcomed on a smartphone since most people use them for pretty much everything. HTC PLEASE don't disappoint with this phone. I'm counting on you
25. Slammer (Posts: 1417; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I like the versatility of having an SD card. Many people confuse ROM with RAM. If everything is stored to the internal memory of a phone, the operating system becomes total reliant on a chip that is not removable or unsalvageable if the device happens to meet a demise.
I don't know how many times I have come within months of upgrades only to have the charging port fail. Interchangimg batteries on the fly keeps me in the game until the upgrade. If no removable battery, chances are, I would be forced to pay $100 for a replacement phone. Not worth it if due for said upgrade soon.
12. rizevnarastek (Posts: 338; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
Most people don't even use half their storage. If you think 32GB isn't enough then buy the 64GB version.
17. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
I've been waiting for this for a while. Show me what you got HTC.
18. Izoe (Posts: 129; Member since: 02 Sep 2010)
of all the flagships released last year, In my opinion htc had the best build quality(only phone i had seen in white that made me want to get it), but they where let down by battery life, htc Sense slowing down the phone and the way they crippled multitasking on the phone. i think storage capacity was adequate. Hopefully they'll learn from their mistakes
20. tha.fox (Posts: 100; Member since: 30 Nov 2011)
I like HTC the most out of all manufactures but Izoe is 100% correct. My TBOLT on cm7 was faster than my dna on sense 4 haha
22. amiroo (Posts: 269; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
there is sd card u dont see any spc about it in past news?????
28. Taters (Posts: 4734; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Here is the checklist that Peter Chou has before the official release.
Small battery. Check!
Not enough memory for storage. Check!
Not enough ram for multi tasking with bloated sense. Check!
Software bugs left and right. Check and check!
Horrible feeling and placed buttons that are too flushed and general poor feel in hand and ergonomics. You betcha!
Same size as the Droid DNA despite having a smaller screen. We are good on that front!
Write Apple a cheque for their patents which are prior art. Done!
Sigh HTC, sigh. I hope they prove me wrong but after two One X devices and two 8x devices, you just know they will deliver when it comes to driving their company into the ground.
34. rizevnarastek (Posts: 338; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
- 2300mAh = not a small battery
- 32GB / 64GB = a lot of storage
- 2GB RAM = plenty enough of memory
- Every OS has bugs but that's what updates are for.
- Flushed buttons are great if you don't want them to be pressed acidentally and you get used to where they are so it doesn't impose a problem. HTC devices have the greatest design and in-hand feel is just awesome.
- It may be roughly the same size but it has stereo front facing speakers, you need room for that.
35. Izoe (Posts: 129; Member since: 02 Sep 2010)
yeah the design feels good in the hand but i wish they would relocate the power button like Sony and Samsung for example, for such a large device placing the power button on top right of the device doesn't make sense. I mean its easier to press the power button on the note 2 than that of the one x. That's just silly. Being on the Top left or on the side is better, that's just my opinion though.
38. rizevnarastek (Posts: 338; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
Button up to and this feature for the capacitive keys
I don't know why they didn't implement it before, it only makes sense. (pun intended) :)
43. bayusuputra (Posts: 961; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
Haha, you should change the first "T" of your nick to "H"..
32. omarr (banned) (Posts: 149; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)
I think HTC called it the One because it is the only One that has Ultrapixels !!
33. reynizm (Posts: 1; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)
it's not about the pixels... it's about the sensors.. so HTC is giving a fight... No worries! Nokia will fight ....
39. data1music (Posts: 1; Member since: 17 Feb 2013)
Hey does anyone know how to get tickets to the event??
40. madesina (Posts: 24; Member since: 05 Oct 2008)
This sounds like everything I could have ever asked form in a phone.
1) I don't want a 5 inch phone at all!!
2) I do want a high res screen
3) I would love an incredible camera
4) 2GB RAM makes a world of difference
5) I want a High quality feel to the phone
I went from the Galaxy Nexus to the Nexus 4 and the differences are subtle but beautifully executed. The only improvements IMO lay in the camera, memory and screen resolution, everything is is perfect..
I so badly want to go back to an HTC phone again, but mixed reviews kept me away from the One X range
45. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
why is the phonearena counter 1 hour ahead of htcs own...