Watchdog group says Samsung manufacturer using child labor
0. phoneArena 21 Aug 2012, 06:35 posted on
New York based China Labor Watch accused a contract manufacturer for Samsung, HEG Electronics Company of employing children...
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1. wendygarett (unregistered)
still better than foxconn
4. wendygarett (unregistered)
and this gave us the reason why samsung product has poor quality recently...
7. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
lol There is nothing wrong with child labor. My 4 year old mows my lawn every 2 weeks. lol
Nah just kidding, if this turns out to be true then SHAME on Samsung. If this is true, how can this even be possible on 2012? I mean these agencies & people live to find this type of atrocity. You really have to be kidding me.
Why do these companies who practice this type of act even think that is an option?
Samsung is taking the right steps & are looking into this. If this is happening, it's definitely behind Samsung's back & they will fix the issue ASAP.
9. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
It is unfortunately common in China. And it blows chunks.
This report is actually a good few weeks old now. Samsung is going in directly because they found evidence that the "Chinese authorities" were taking bribes from HEG to say everything was kosher.
At least, unlike apple, Samsung is trying to be more proactive before it becomes a world wide story about a few dozen suicides, exploding ipad factories, and slave labor. Hopefully they see whats going on directly and fix it.
HEG makes things like samsung DVD players and such. They dont make any of samsung's mobile products, those are made in house directly by samsung under comparatively much better conditions than any of these Chinese factories..
29. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
oh remixfa, if Gallito and Taco was still in their trolling form they would eat you and this post ALIVE!!! hahahaha
minus the "facts" they would still put Samsung and Apple in the same pot...
and mainly tease you about how passionate you were about apple using slave labor... Samsung is doing the same thing...
and YES PA definitely waited a few weeks to report this news when it was hot off the press...
dont make excuses for them tho remix, it still should be wrong in your eyes...
33. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
umm.. can you find anywhere in my post where i eluded to the fact that it wasnt wrong in my eyes?
Its very wrong. Its still not on the level of apple/foxconn wrong though.
13. wendygarett (unregistered)
Hi mordecai, so nice to see you again :)
I really dont understand in China but you're right, I really can't imagine those user is using the device which made by child, it sounds a bit cruel.
Samsung factory did this is probably because of the fierce mobile competition (In my opinion). They try to sell very low price to carrier in order to compete without hurting the profit margin. Every companies did this tho.
however, samsung ignore the customer satisfaction that child labor with no experience will make the device not function properly. A lot of complaint you can see everywhere (the famous part will be the build quality issue in sgs3)
I think samsung should concentrate more on this segment, not just the spec of mobile.
I'm sorry :) that I jump to the conclusion of using child labour :)
19. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you are completely ignoring facts
Samsung PHONES are made by Samsung in their factories in the phillipines and elsewhere by workers with paid vacations and benefits packages.
HEG DOES NOT make samsung phones. They make their lesser electronics.. DVD, Blu Ray players, MP3 players, ect.
quit spouting nonsense.
22. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4833; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Nice to see you too. It’s been a long time, plus I also went on a 10 day long Miami vacation. Lots of fun in the sun. I hope you are doing ok.
I know that this type of practice happens in China for the most part, but with all the tech out there & the way the media is now a days, how can China even permit this.
Isn't this more trouble & will eventually cost China more money once it's discovered? I mean this is the equivalent to feeding a raw steak to a hungry lion. These agencies out there are salivating to get an opportunity to find some company or country in violation of child labor. To me it just seems very sloppy & very stupid to still do this right now.
I applaud Samsung for stepping up & not condoning this type of behavior. Kudos to Samsung.
10. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
samsung mobile products are made by samsung directly. HEG makes DVD players and such.
14. wendygarett (unregistered)
"HEG makes mobile phones and DVD players for Samsung."
the statement copied from the article, did you see the word MOBILE PHONE?? :)
27. rf1975 (Posts: 258; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
samsung product has poor quality recently?......LOL.
24. xtian1103 (Posts: 363; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
proud samsung microwave oven owner here. it's already 2 years and still blazing fast and no lags!
25. SGSatlantis (Posts: 226; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
Proud MWO owner here, 23 years old and works perfect. The plastic is a bit yellowish and the logo is different. Anyway I hate the cracking plastic back on my Nexus.
2. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
this seems to be normal for Asian companies hell if Americans werent so uptight it would be normal here.
30. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
yooooo! i'm not supposed to laugh at this but i'm sorry this is funny...
3. MeoCao (unregistered)
Westerners don't understand reality of child labor. It's way better for many children in China to be able to work in good environment than to be exploited ruthlessly somewhere else.
5. bomariam1 (Posts: 37; Member since: 08 May 2012)
Your right, they don't know about three rest off the world (or even their own homeless kids that fall for drugs).
8. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
From what I know, in Taiwan you are only required to completed the first 9 grades instead of 12 grades like in the U.S. Therefore, if someone graduated from middle school, they can start working in a factory and their age would be between 16-18. If that's the case in South Korea, that's not illegal then and nothing to worry here.
16. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I started having a paid job at 14 here in the States, but I had to get a special permit to do so, and there were restrictions regarding what I could do, especially with chemicals (worked as a custodian at my parish church and school, getting it ready for the new school year over the summer as well as cleaning the church and chapel for Masses and other functions). Good experience, and gave mw a stronger work ethic than about 99% of my peers, and also gave me a head start in paying my own way, to the point where my parents weren't paying anything for me by my 16th birthday, including school and room & board, and I was living on my own by 18
18. wendygarett (unregistered)
Then i'm proud of you :)
I'm proud of the seven children mentioned above as well :)
20. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
good job :)
I got a full time job (part time, the rest was under the table) at 15 and have been working my way up the chains ever since. Good thing since I ended up on and off the streets through my teens and signing my first lease the day after I turned 18. Nothing teaches you self reliance better than not having mommy and daddy to crawl back to.
11. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
If it's true and Samsung ends up doing nothing about it after a real investigation, then I will no longer buy their products. At least their dvd players and mobile phones.
17. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yup me too. problem is i literally just bought 2 samsung BluRay players like 2 weeks before these reports came out.. grrrrr. ya think you can trust a brand.. geesh.
15. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
...isn't this news from quite a few weeks ago? Not saying it isn't relevant it important, just not new. I believe Samsung has already sent a team or teams to inspect the situations, as mentioned in the article
21. kamil (Posts: 118; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)
and I thought Apple and Foxconn are the cruel ones
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
when samsung has people jumping off roofs and doesnt install required ventilation in their tablet factories to save a dollar... which cause them to explode and kill people.. then you can make the comparison.
26. bomariam1 (Posts: 37; Member since: 08 May 2012)
An adult kill him self like having a kid working is the same to you!
28. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
First I think that children should be able to work at 14. I am 14 an. They are letting me start to help at the fire house. Even though I can't officially learn to be a fireman/emt until I'm 16, I am still allowed to help in a lot of. Ways.
However if Samsung did have child labor, I can't deny that they were knowingly breaking the law and they should be punished. Also if children are working for them, they should at least get full pay.
31. nofear (Posts: 151; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
Kids should having some work experience from 10 and up. Yard works, clean up weeds, fix up his/her own bed, clean his/her own room and so many more of being productive. Kids nowadays just do text, video game, chat with friends they do not do jacks!....despite of being a responsible individual at least to keep them busy. Promoting in quality for individual and community; less graffiti on walls, less crime, less drug. If there a smartest kid on this planet, why don't someone tell he/she to wait until your are 18 before you enter college. My point is that responsible measure somewhat equivalence.
If you repeat teach kid to cut wood with chainsaw, his/her intelligence should be adequate comprehended and overcome any worse consequences.
32. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
If this is going on, I doubt Samsung was aware of it, but if so, shame on them indeed.
Whether or not Samsung had any knowledge of this going on in these factories though, despite 16 being the legal working age in China, China has been known to glaze over laws and bureaucracy on a regular basis to "Get things done". They are clearly not doing enough as a government to oversee these companies, and these companies are amoral and have no regard for following the law except when the punishment for not following is more severe than for following.
34. Seannyc (Posts: 59; Member since: 21 Jul 2012)
u guys said apple working condition are harsh. Samsung hire kids to do the same job,apple hire adults to do. Apple workers prolly get pay more too as kids get pay less. Thats f**k up samsung, im a chinese i hate to see chinese kids working in factorys.
35. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you think the group that samsung is using, HEG, is the only group to get caught using kids? It sucks and its wrong, but what is worse, kids working or adults being blown up or committing suicide?